Pacific Rim - Part 4

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

After all of these positive reviews and praise, I'm getting pretty excited for this.

 

[Marvin]

For the most part, for the characters in the film, the arrival of the Kaiju is pretty much treated like weather. In the world of the film, they are a fact of life that people deal with, like hurricanes, but the attacks start to become more frequent and there are those that study the kaiju and attempt to find out where they come from.

That's so tragic.
So for the most part people don't even know about the portal?
I'm gonna sob when I see this
what a world.

 

[TAK The Voyager]

You guys who are split, I'll make the decision for you:

GO SEE IT. It's a lot of fun, and it's a movie that deserves to do well at the BO.

 

[Nathan]

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[Pickleweasel]

It will be kind of sad if this doesn't do well. Big budget original films are going to start being less and less

 

[kedrell]

Honestly what is the problem here? Have you seen the movie?

For the most part, for the characters in the film, the arrival of the Kaiju is pretty much treated like weather. In the world of the film, they are a fact of life that people deal with, like hurricanes, but the attacks start to become more frequent and there are those that study the kaiju and attempt to find out where they come from.

And you really take issue with just the terms Kaiju and Jaeger? That's just the words used within the world of the movie. Jaeger isn't a reference to anything, its just the German word for hunter. Kaiju is a word that literally means giant monster. What is the problem? Do you hate that Star Wars calls its mystical samurai Jedis?

You should stop throwing the word 'hate' around here. Nobody's saying that. That would require an investment of emotion that simply isn't going to happen. I don't even need to have seen the film to be able to call that one. And it's not an issue since that's almost all movies that such a thing is true of.

Now as to the rest of your post, I already said I hadn't seen it yet and I was just recapping the first impressions I got about it when the first trailer hit(and none of the subsequent marketing has done anything to change that first impression).

And I said the Kaiju/Jaeger stuff ultimately wasn't all that big a deal. Just an observation I made. It's more of a personal taste thing for me but I really have no love for Japanese pop culture. I have enough trouble just keeping my head above water with American pop culture.

And Star Wars with the Jedi's? Are Jedi's part of Japanese pop culture? I thought that they were at best influenced by some Japanese stuff but themselves were pretty much wholly an American invention. Not that I care since I'm not into Star Wars and never have been.

Certainly in the world of Pacific Rim they would want to know more about their enemy. But do we the audience need such exposition? I don't think so unless you're going to go all the way with it. But by all accounts this is not that kind of movie.

 

[kedrell]

While I was excited to see Charlie Day, I've got to say he was pretty much the worst thing about this movie.

There were a few shots where I literally had no idea what the hell he was going for.

Doesn't surprise me. I can't stand Charlie Day. He just has one of those faces you want to take a sledge hammer to. I think it's the smirk. God, I just ........ugh!

 

[TheVileOne]

The movie is the most fun I had all summer. I think it could've done a couple things better, but overall it was awesome.

I think a couple parts of the second act are a little rushed.

 

[rayc1971]

They spend 180M making it so I'd say $70M at least. With a standard big summer movie multiplier of 2.5X that would still leave it $5M short of covering it's production budget with it's DOM gross. Probably should open to $75M at least. The overseas grosses were always gonna be what saves this movie but DOM still has to do it's share. At this point it could be that it just barely passes $100M DOM. That'd leave $300-350M OS has to make up all on it's own.

yeah your right I thought this was going to be the sleeper hit of the summer not likely now.i thought this would appeal to kids and adults

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm still sticking with my 44mil opening weekend prediction. I'm not even going to guess a total. Box Office.com has 41mil for it and they were only off Lone Ranger by 2 mil so I feel more comfortable with my prediction. Sure I can still see it easily going under 40mil but that's not my prediction.

Still not a great number with the budget it carries but better if it hits 40mil than 25-35mil.

 

[GremlinZilla89]

As soon as this film was announced all I thought was "A big budget Kaiju film?! HEll yes! Bring it on!"

I looked at it from just that point of view: A big budget Kaiju film. And what are Kaiju films almost universally lacking? Deep, strong, original characters. Some very rare exceptions can be found (Gojira, Gamera 3 and the Daimajin films are really the only ones I can think of) but the vast majority of Kaiju films contain nothing but paper thin character merely reacting to the situation. Even if a Kaiju film has likable characters, they are never not cliched or one dimensional, just written with a bit more verve than most. Most of the early Godzilla films have incredibly boring characters and dialogue scenes.
And from the looks of it, Pacific Rim seems to have stronger characters than most other films in the genre. In a broader sense. It seems to give us archetypal, yes maybe "cliched" characters. But so flippin' what? And most of the reviews actually compliment the film for having stronger than the norm characters, so I don't get the controversy in the first place. I'm going into it with the mindset of seeing a Kaiju film with advanced special effects and thats all I ever EXPECTED from it. I can see why people may expect more (specifically those not familiar with the genre), but honestly why would THIS movie of all the other blockbusters, be the film to give is deep and original characters? Seems kind of naive to me.

 

[Octoberist]

Here's a very good profile on Rinko Kikuchi, and how, despite finding fame in Western-based films, she is totally neglected in Japan. And that's due to the fact that Japan's film industry is pathetic and the only way to become a star over there is through soap operas and game shows. Something that Rinko hasn't done much of, nor is interested in.

Either way, I'm happy for her even though her countrymen aren't.

http://kotaku.com/will-japan-finally-adore-this-pacific-rim-star-5968393

 

[Iron_Madrigal]

Here's a very good profile on Rinko Kikuchi, and how, despite finding fame in Western-based films, she is totally neglected in Japan. And that's due to the fact that Japan's film industry is pathetic and the only way to become a star over there is through soap operas and game shows. Something that Rinko hasn't done much of, nor is interested in.

Either way, I'm happy for her even though her countrymen aren't.

http://kotaku.com/will-japan-finally-adore-this-pacific-rim-star-5968393

I dislike her. She reminds me of a theatre kid.

 

[rayc1971]

I'm still sticking with my 44mil opening weekend prediction. I'm not even going to guess a total. Box Office.com has 41mil for it and they were only off Lone Ranger by 2 mil so I feel more comfortable with my prediction. Sure I can still see it easily going under 40mil but that's not my prediction.

Still not a great number with the budget it carries but better if it hits 40mil than 25-35mil.

with 3d 44mill is not good the only prediction that was way off so far was world war z they thought 41 mill it did 66mill opening weekend.maybe this can pull off something like that.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

That had Brad Pitt and Jolie pimping it though and it had extra media coverage due to Jolie's surgery. Nothing is impossible but I'm not feeling a near 70mil opening even if it gets above tracking numbers. I'm just not seeing the 24-25mil Friday this movie would need to achieve that kind of result.

 

[Poni_Boy]

My full review:

http://www.gotham-news.com/news/201...fects-saddled-with-a-sub-par-script-review-★★

Sorry for the delay. I try to keep negative ones unpublished until day before release.

 

[Iron_Madrigal]

Gee, thanks for the spoiler alert. Fuh-

 

[marty mcfly]

8/10

It ain't Shakespeare, but it's damn fun. Some really corny bits, fairly weak backstories and motivations, some really horrible performances (Hunnam, who I usually like, was as stiff as a board in this. And Rinko Kikuchi was embarrassingly bad) but it was such a fun ride. Good laughs, fantastic action, incredible CGI and... Robots fighting monsters!!! Will this change your life? Absolutely not, it will probably be forgotten by this time next year, but it's definitely worth the price of admission.

 

[Knightstalker]

Going to see this movie in about 30 minutes. Looking forward to it.

 

[Wolfwood]

Just got back. Here's my two line review: I haven't had a movie feel me with childlike joy like that in quite a long time. Honestly, and I'm not over-exaggerating, the last time a movie made me feel so awestruck was probably Jurassic Park.

By the way, stay till the end of the credits. There's a fantastic stinger.

 

[redhawk23]

You should stop throwing the word 'hate' around here. Nobody's saying that. That would require an investment of emotion that simply isn't going to happen. I don't even need to have seen the film to be able to call that one. And it's not an issue since that's almost all movies that such a thing is true of.

Now as to the rest of your post, I already said I hadn't seen it yet and I was just recapping the first impressions I got about it when the first trailer hit(and none of the subsequent marketing has done anything to change that first impression).

And I said the Kaiju/Jaeger stuff ultimately wasn't all that big a deal. Just an observation I made. It's more of a personal taste thing for me but I really have no love for Japanese pop culture. I have enough trouble just keeping my head above water with American pop culture.

And Star Wars with the Jedi's? Are Jedi's part of Japanese pop culture? I thought that they were at best influenced by some Japanese stuff but themselves were pretty much wholly an American invention. Not that I care since I'm not into Star Wars and never have been.

Certainly in the world of Pacific Rim they would want to know more about their enemy. But do we the audience need such exposition? I don't think so unless you're going to go all the way with it. But by all accounts this is not that kind of movie.

My point was you said that using words like Kaiju is just too geeky for most people, but would it be any different if they just made up words?

And the background of the Kaiju isn't just presented as exposition. Finding out the actual source of the monsters and the cause for their increasing frequency is a pretty major part of the conflict of the film and for several of the characters is their entire purpose for being in the film.

 

[redhawk23]

Doesn't surprise me. I can't stand Charlie Day. He just has one of those faces you want to take a sledge hammer to. I think it's the smirk. God, I just ........ugh!

As for his smirking and attitude, that actually fits his character perfectly.

The problems lie in the fact that he has just a really awkward screen presence a lot of the time in this film.

I don't know if it was due to reacting to CGI or what but even in scenes with other people he has a lot of really weird movements that don't really make sense.

 

[Gabe99]

'Today we are cancelling the apocalypse!'

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm enjoying all of the diverse opinions and look forward to seeing the film tonight.

 

[Gianakin_]

I'm enjoying all of the diverse opinions and look forward to seeing the film in September.