Sequels Should Sam Raimi keep making Spider-Man films or should a new guy take over?

[Nathan]

Oookay...

 

[Green Goblin 1964]

thats his excuse man, hes only bringing in venom to make more money because it was his last film, so he knew in order to come back,SM3 had to make a few extra bucks, turened out almost making 900 mil ww

Man, you must seriously be high or drunk or something because your coming up with stupid excuses just to hate on Spider-Man 3.....troll


You said it yourself your a Spider-Man 3 hata for life

 

[omid17]

trust me the same crew will be back

 

[Nathan]

The crew come back, as long as we get a new Peter Parker and Mary Jane.

 

[omid17]

Man, you must seriously be high or drunk or something because your coming up with stupid excuses just to hate on Spider-Man 3.....troll


You said it yourself your a Spider-Man 3 hata for life

like i said raimi was thinking about himself and not the fans

 

[Nathan]

like i said raimi was thinking about himself and not the fans

Then the Vulture would've been in the Movie instead of Venom, if that would've been the case.

 

[Green Goblin 1964]

like i said raimi was thinking about himself and not the fans

You should seriously get some kind of probation because now your just trolling with your posts...

 

[omid17]

The crew come back, as long as we get a new Peter Parker and Mary Jane.

thing is that raimi always mentioms how he loves the cast

 

[Green Goblin 1964]

thing is that raimi always mentioms how he loves the cast

And I think they will return hopefully....

 

[omid17]

Then the Vulture would've been in the Movie instead of Venom, if that would've been the case.

Vulture would of been great because SM3 proved how the airel fights were better.

 

[Blader5489]

Sam was signed for 3` movies only. thats why i think he included the symbiote story in SM3, to make as much money as he can so that sony can sign another deal with him and the whole crew

Wrong. Raimi was never contracted for three movies, he had to sign on for each film individually. The cast was obligated to three movies, not Raimi.

 

[omid17]

comon guys each SM movie made for than 300 mil, which is quite amazing, why would sony risk getting a new cast

 

[Green Goblin 1964]

comon guys each SM movie made for than 300 mil, which is quite amazing, why would sony risk getting a new cast

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[ORGANIZED CHAOS]

comon guys each SM movie made for than 300 mil, which is quite amazing, why would sony risk getting a new cast

It's not about Sony risking anything, It's about the damn cast wanting to come back. If Raimi's not directing, I guarantee you none of the main cast are gonna return. Even if Raimi's directing, either they're gonna ask for more money or they're just not gonna want to do a 4th movie. And anyway, Maguire's not getting any younger. I think the most we'll get is one last movie with the original cast and crew. After SM4, they're gonna have to change alot of stuff

 

[omid17]

hopefully we will find out by the end of this year

 

[Uber Venom]

Either way, something tells me that this one won't make as much as the other ones. But six is too much. If they have to make a 4th film, make it be the last.

 

[omid17]

i agree UberV more than 4 is just pushing it

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Either way, something tells me that this one won't make as much as the other ones.

It might. As long as Sam is directing, and the rest of the cast and crew return, there is a good chance that it will IMO.

 

[Spade]

Then the Vulture would've been in the Movie instead of Venom, if that would've been the case.

Venom squaked like a bird, teamed up with the Sandman like the Vulture did, was manipulative and vengeful like the script envisioned the Vulture to be...if anything, he altered a few things in the overall frame and put Venom in. I'm not sure that's what I would call "putting Venom in the film." It's like MJ taking Gwen's place in the first film- it was happening to MJ, but we all knew that Gwen was originally in her place in the books. The only thing that was changed was the death and the person. Essentially, everything else followed the same frame. And if this was truly a film for the fans, then why was it that Sam was pushing for a character like the Sandman who really has little to no background to garner interest in the comics from the very beginning? How was that "thinking for the fans"?

Well, I'll back off on this regardless. People are throwing around troll labels and whatnot...

 

[Blader5489]

I'm not sure that's what I would call "putting Venom in the film."

Uh...that's exactly what it was. The script was written and then Venom was put into it. What it wasn't was a film centered around Venom, like the first two movies were centered around Green Goblin and Doc Ock.

How was that "thinking for the fans"?

It wasn't. The whole reason Arad was able to coerce Raimi into using Venom was by guilting him, saying that Raimi was using his favorite villain (Sandman) and not the fans' (Venom).

 

[omid17]

raimi should have just used only 2 villains for SM3

 

[Blader5489]

raimi should have just used only 2 villains for SM3

The movie doesn't really work without Sandman or Venom. They're both essential to Peter's growth. And of course, Harry had to be in the movie so that they could finish his story.

 

[Uber Venom]

It might. As long as Sam is directing, and the rest of the cast and crew return, there is a good chance that it will IMO.

This film is viewed as the worst of the trilogy by many people (all I heard the weekend it came out was how bad it was, most of these people were casuals). And I know it made 800 million, not everyone hated it, so lets not even get into that.

Not to mention it will be the 4th film, the series is losing steam. There's no denying that. They're running out of "must-have" villains (only one left is Lizard).

 

[Blader5489]

Not to mention it will be the 4th film, the series is losing steam. There's no denying that. They're running out of "must-have" villains (only one left is Lizard).

Even though I liked SM3, I completely agree. Even ignoring the mixed views over this movie, there's a general fatigue growing towards Spider-Man films. Maguire and co. are barely up to doing a fourth movie, and a recast at this point would be too soon (since Sony has apparently pegged SM4 for a 2010 release already).

I say let Raimi and co. finish their run with a Spider-Man 4 that gives a real bookend conclusion to the series. SM3 wrapped up a lot of plot threads and closed out the trilogy, but there are still some things left to be seen: Peter and MJ getting married, the effect of Harry's death on Peter, Connors becoming the Lizard, and a larger role from Gwen and Captain Stacy.

After that, give the franchise a break and come back a few years down the line with a reboot (or a "vague history" sequel).

 

[AIRWOLF]

Venom squaked like a bird, teamed up with the Sandman like the Vulture did, was manipulative and vengeful like the script envisioned the Vulture to be...if anything, he altered a few things in the overall frame and put Venom in. I'm not sure that's what I would call "putting Venom in the film." It's like MJ taking Gwen's place in the first film- it was happening to MJ, but we all knew that Gwen was originally in her place in the books. The only thing that was changed was the death and the person. Essentially, everything else followed the same frame. And if this was truly a film for the fans, then why was it that Sam was pushing for a character like the Sandman who really has little to no background to garner interest in the comics from the very beginning? How was that "thinking for the fans"?

Well, I'll back off on this regardless. People are throwing around troll labels and whatnot...

I kind of agree here. But what else could they have done with Venom since he was introduced later in the script. But the story became lame the moment it was decided to do a retcon of Uncle Ben's murder, even without Venom. The story should have focussed particularly on Harry and used Venom as secondary villain.