Star Trek Beyond - Part 3

[Dugath]

For the 4th reboot film, they should do something like the Voyage Home and have them in a time that is not the 23rd century but somewhere in the past. Or if not that, then on a planet that resembles Earth from the past, just like some of the original Star Trek episodes.

That might save on lots of CGI and also give us an old-fashioned fish-out-of-water Trek adventure, which would be about time for this reboot.

IMO that whole concept would turn a lot of people away. Star Trek, based on "Earth" ..meh... Star..Trek.. based on "earth". This is not the 1970's or a TV episode.

Like it or not Action sells and not just action but the over the top stuff. Take a look at the Fast and Furious. Racing thugs, crime movie to a high unrealistic action, explosions ..ect.. and people eat it up.

Last thing I want is .. Spock! put on this hat to blend in (so we can save $$ on your ears and eye brows) and..Kirk meet Al Capone.

ST 2009 - Was ok (I find it enjoyable for the most part) but the protagonist was meh.
ST Into Darkness - Again was ok, but was plodding and a re-hash.
ST Beyond - I found to be a step in the right direction, perhaps too much planet side action for my taste but I still enjoyed it (except for the "swarm") and the movie itself felt like it needed to be longer to just get into a few things more deeply. Loved all the little throw nods to other ST movies to the TV's shows. All of which went over the wife's head.

They just need to throw in some big multi ship space battles with say Klingon's or some other known race. I believe people would prefer to see a know race vs an unknown one.

 

[Dark Raven]

But even something like the Force Awakens wasn't all set in space with big battles. A long part of it was either in the desert at first with Daisy and Boyega, and then on that planet with Harrison Ford and the other two. Then there was the showdown in those woods at the end with the light sabers.

Star Trek doesn't need to be all space battles, and even that can be boring and put audiences off too.

 

[Pink Ranger]

For the 4th reboot film, they should do something like the Voyage Home and have them in a time that is not the 23rd century but somewhere in the past. Or if not that, then on a planet that resembles Earth from the past, just like some of the original Star Trek episodes.

That might save on lots of CGI and also give us an old-fashioned fish-out-of-water Trek adventure, which would be about time for this reboot.

Maybe instead of a familiar historical period, they can go back to a darker place in the timeline's history, like the post-atomic horror or the Eugenics Wars.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

I want to see them bring back the Klingons in the next one.

 

[Marvolo]

Maybe instead of a familiar historical period, they can go back to a darker place in the timeline's history, like the post-atomic horror or the Eugenics Wars.

Thats not a bad idea. Show us a dark time in Trek history. Or go forward to a time when the Federation is on the brink of collapsing.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Been watching a lot of Next Gen lately; damn, what a great show. Just finished part one of "Birthright." The bird sequence with Data was... it just was, man, ya dig?

 

[Octoberist]

Just saw it and I liked it. The action was messy tho.

There's a part of me who thinks the movie would've been better if the ysed Pegg/Jung's script with JJ directing. Lin just did okay.

 

[Zant]

They should cast Dwayne Johnson in the next one for a box office boost. Its what he does.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

The Rock as a Klingon would be great stuff

 

[TheComicbookKid]

I'm guessing time travel is a possible story since Kirk's father is supposed to be in this so something similar to First Contact could be cool.

Someone trying to undo whatever Nero did to Vulcan and putting Kirk and crew in the position of whether or not their nuTrek lives are as valid as the original ones.


Also I really want to see Gary Mitchell updated with todays effects!!

 

[rayc1971]

I'm guessing time travel is a possible story since Kirk's father is supposed to be in this so something similar to First Contact could be cool.

Someone trying to undo whatever Nero did to Vulcan and putting Kirk and crew in the position of whether or not their nuTrek lives are as valid as the original ones.


Also I really want to see Gary Mitchell updated with todays effects!!

i doubt they would touch gary mitchell after doing khan already i think having this crew face the borg could sell

 

[Consona]

I've finally seen Beyond.

Not bad but not great either. Overall it lacked some kind of drive.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

i doubt they would touch gary mitchell after doing khan already i think having this crew face the borg could sell

Nah. Up the telepathy, telekinesis and matter manipulation. Not the super strong stuff.

If they do the Borg, then they should face an earlier version and streamline the designs for easier cosplay.

 

[Kathemy]

If the Enterprise NCC-1701A faces and defeats the Borg it makes a total joke of earlier shows where entire fleets got massacred by one cube.

Sorry but the Borg are post-TOS only. Voyager already neutered them enough.

 

[GreenKToo]

It's out of film order, but a v'ger type story would be cool with today's effects. Or maybe a war with the romulans.

 

[Kathemy]

It's out of film order, but a v'ger type story would be cool with today's effects. Or maybe a war with the romulans.

They're a century late for the original Romulan war but I guess that could easily be retooled given how events involving a Romulan crew lead to the destruction of Romulus.

One thought I had which I found a fascinating concept (which they'll never do) is have the remaining Vulcans revert to their warlike old ways in shock over the destruction of their home planet and then actually succeed in provoking a war with the Romulan Empire behind the scenes. It could be made to work as a twisted sort of post-Holocaust Israel parallel.

 

[rayc1971]

If the Enterprise NCC-1701A faces and defeats the Borg it makes a total joke of earlier shows where entire fleets got massacred by one cube.

Sorry but the Borg are post-TOS only. Voyager already neutered them enough.

disagree i think the borg would get people in the seats also Q could be a posibility they could since they changed the timeline

 

[C. Lee]

disagree i think the borg would get people in the seats also Q could be a posibility they could since they changed the timeline

Personally....I was never a big fan of the Borg. I liked ST: FIRST CONTACT....but that was an anomaly for me. It would be interesting to see a new Q story though.

 

[redhawk23]

IMO that whole concept would turn a lot of people away. Star Trek, based on "Earth" ..meh... Star..Trek.. based on "earth". This is not the 1970's or a TV episode.

Like it or not Action sells and not just action but the over the top stuff. Take a look at the Fast and Furious. Racing thugs, crime movie to a high unrealistic action, explosions ..ect.. and people eat it up.

Last thing I want is .. Spock! put on this hat to blend in (so we can save $$ on your ears and eye brows) and..Kirk meet Al Capone.

ST 2009 - Was ok (I find it enjoyable for the most part) but the protagonist was meh.
ST Into Darkness - Again was ok, but was plodding and a re-hash.
ST Beyond - I found to be a step in the right direction, perhaps too much planet side action for my taste but I still enjoyed it (except for the "swarm") and the movie itself felt like it needed to be longer to just get into a few things more deeply. Loved all the little throw nods to other ST movies to the TV's shows. All of which went over the wife's head.

They just need to throw in some big multi ship space battles with say Klingon's or some other known race. I believe people would prefer to see a know race vs an unknown one.

Action Trek has seen diminishing returns.

 

[Marvolo]

Something fresh or unexpected needs to be done. Something new. Stop going back to the TOS era. Stop looking back to TNG and it's way of doing things. That approach appeals to the fan base. But it's not appealing to the wider public. This franchise needs to go into truly uncharted territory. Go to a future time period when the Federation is collapsing or has collapsed. 31st century perhaps. Have the Vulcans as a society abandoning their logic. Have a war between Earth and Vulcans. Send Trek to another galaxy. Do something the franchise has never done. Change it up.

 

[Consona]

I think they should stop raping this franchise. Either make some true Star Trek films or let it die. After some thinking about ST Beyond and the first two films I've realized what a waste of such a perfect cast. Actors in Abrams' reboot are great, visuals and designs are great, but nearly everything else is a misfire.

First one was entertaining action flick made to kickstart the new rebooted ST. Ok. It shows that Abrams is not a trekie as he admited himself but as a start of a new series I thought it was good. But after that it was a mess. They made an alternative timeline just to rip-off the original films in the worst way in the second one, plus it was just another space action flick. The third one is just another another space action flick but somewhat more boring than previous films.

I get you need some action in these films to lure the general audience but having spectacular action does not mean you cannot write a sophisticated Star Trek film. And that's what I want and what it should be. Otherwise it's just pillaging of a brand. And if you really cannot make an intelligent Star Trek film for general audience then let it die. I'm starting to lose my interesting in this reboot rapidly despite/because Star Trek is one of my most beloved things ever.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Something fresh or unexpected needs to be done. Something new. Stop going back to the TOS era. Stop looking back to TNG and it's way of doing things. That approach appeals to the fan base. But it's not appealing to the wider public. This franchise needs to go into truly uncharted territory. Go to a future time period when the Federation is collapsing or has collapsed. 31st century perhaps. Have the Vulcans as a society abandoning their logic. Have a war between Earth and Vulcans. Send Trek to another galaxy. Do something the franchise has never done. Change it up.

Alien T&A.

 

[The Batman]

IMO, not using a new cast is not the problem with this franchise, and whether or not the current franchise is "true" Star Trek isn't really the problem either.

And if anything, using a completely new cast is something that a few fanboys want, it's unclear if that's what the GA wants.

If you want to talk about, IMO, actual problems with the current film franchise, a clear and tangible problem is how these films are promoted and marketed.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

IMO, not using a new cast is not the problem with this franchise, and whether or not the current franchise is "true" Star Trek isn't really the problem either.

And if anything, using a completely new cast is something that a few fanboys want, it's unclear if that's what the GA wants.

If you want to talk about, IMO, actual problems with the current film franchise, a clear and tangible problem is how these films are promoted and marketed.

The original crew is part of the marketing. The nostalgia train that has been running hot in Hollywood is based on the most recognizable parts of the brands.TOS visuals and Shatner/Nimoy's larger than life personalities are what has marketed Trek to the wider audience.

By the time TNG, DS9, Voyager came around, Trek was moving into fan and niche territory. The same way comic books moved into the direct market.

They could have just used Pine and Co. to do Untold Stories of the 5 year journey but they choose to reboot the franchise. People talk about how DC needs a Feige, but Trek needs someone who respects Trek enough to break it down and rebuild it.


Putting it into this era was the right thing, but Pine and Co. won't ever be able to match Shatner's crew in terms of being marketable. Spock will always be Nimoy. They need to tell new stories with a new crew.

 

[Iceman]

IMO, not using a new cast is not the problem with this franchise, and whether or not the current franchise is "true" Star Trek isn't really the problem either.

And if anything, using a completely new cast is something that a few fanboys want, it's unclear if that's what the GA wants.

If you want to talk about, IMO, actual problems with the current film franchise, a clear and tangible problem is how these films are promoted and marketed.

Promotion/marketing is a huge problem, and I assume not good enough overseas too where it is floundering. A new cast might be an option for the long term future but I think this crew needs to fully succeed over a few more films for people to be interested in that anyway.