Star Trek Beyond - Part 4

[KRYPTON INC.]

Community Lounge has this covered...

Q should give us the TNG version of LOGAN with Pat Stew and Spiner traveling the starways to reset the timeline.

Hmm... Tarantino AS "Q"?

 

[TheJL]

Paramount did screw up with marketing of a good Trek film with Beyond. It was easily the best of the NuTrek films.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

That was the year I started my podcast and as we came up to the release of BEYOND it suddenly dawned on my co-host that... "Oh yeah, it's the 50th Anniversary of Trek!" We did a special episode about it (still available on Itunes/Google Play, plug, plug, plug...) but it was purely happenstance that we remembered how it all started in 1966. Compare it to how they feted Bond's anniversary on the big screen. There was little actual media coverage which could only have boosted the franchise profile. The only thing I can think of is... They had zero faith in BEYOND and Lin at the helm of it. What ever it looked like as a movie during the putting together phase maybe the suits thought they had a huge bomb on their hands? Why spend more money might have won the day perhaps? Which is crazy because whatever flaws the film has it was a crowed pleaser in it's construction. It contains nothing particularly controversial in content or imagery and it hardly was too aloof for the general audience, nor was it too brain dead to satisfy the long time Trek hardcore. Whatever they saw I think they just wanted to cut their losses.

 

[Dr.]

Paramount did screw up with marketing of a good Trek film with Beyond. It was easily the best of the NuTrek films.

Eye of the beholder. I though it was the weakest of the three.

 

[Consona]

Eye of the beholder. I though it was the weakest of the three.

Same here. But I still hate STID more.

 

[Asharad]

Beyond was pretty weak. I can't see Tarantino saving this, because it's a mindboggling marriage.

 

[flickchick85]

I liked Beyond FAR more than STID.

 

[Consona]

Beyond was pretty weak. I can't see Tarantino saving this, because it's a mindboggling marriage.

There's nothing to lose after the last two movies. Tarantino is a ST fan, in contrast to Abrams. Lin said he's a fan too but the result was so-so. Tarantino is a nerdy quirky guy which brings a lot of hope.

 

[Mysteryman]

Doesn't this topic deserve its own thread?

 

[Teelie]

I think a Tarantino Star Trek would truly be revolutionary in its history. Unlike STD which is a great series but not Star Trek to me, a Tarantino Trek could really push the series somewhere different. Abrams for all the rhetoric about it only nudged Star Trek somewhere different in the Kelvin universe.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

Paramount did screw up with marketing of a good Trek film with Beyond. It was easily the best of the NuTrek films.

Honestly I think general audiences would've been happy to see Beyond. In general people responded well to ST09, and they responded well to STID, Beyond got decent reviews, and probably would've had good box office legs because of that. But the problem was audiences barely even knew it had come out, because Paramount barely marketed it.

 

[terry78]

I think a Tarantino Star Trek would truly be revolutionary in its history. Unlike STD which is a great series but not Star Trek to me, a Tarantino Trek could really push the series somewhere different. Abrams for all the rhetoric about it only nudged Star Trek somewhere different in the Kelvin universe.

That acronym.

 

[Iceman]

I think many people will want to see this, even if out of curiosity.

 

[squeekness]

I know I'll be seeing it.

 

[Dark Raven]

That acronym.

It's catching on everywhere. It is infectious.

 

[titansupes]

STB's box office performance is the only case where fanboy talk of "the marketing sucks" is actually true.

 

[TheVileOne]

STB's box office performance is the only case where fanboy talk of "the marketing sucks" is actually true.

Yup, I agree they blew it for that movie.

 

[Iceman]

STB's box office performance is the only case where fanboy talk of "the marketing sucks" is actually true.

I'd add Into Darkness keeping Khan under wraps and JL keeping Superman hidden.

 

[Sawyer]

I liked Beyond FAR more than STID.

Same. Although I really didn't mind Into Darkness either. I just wish they hadn't charged head-first right after a character like Khan so soon after establishing a new timeline.

I'd add Into Darkness keeping Khan under wraps and JL keeping Superman hidden.

I feel like, if they had cast Benicio Del Toro, they wouldn't have played the John Harrison game. They just would've come out and said what was what. But I think it became a "Well, we lost him, and we really like this guy, but he doesn't entirely fit the character, so let's just... keep this on the DL."

 

[Iceman]

Same. Although I really didn't mind Into Darkness either. I just wish they hadn't charged head-first right after a character like Khan so soon after establishing a new timeline.

I would have also preferred if he'd been saved for later.

I feel like, if they had cast Benicio Del Toro, they wouldn't have played the John Harrison game. They just would've come out and said what was what. But I think it became a "Well, we lost him, and we really like this guy, but he doesn't entirely fit the character, so let's just... keep this on the DL."

Yeah could well be right. I just hope it didn't hurt this franchise's chances with this great new cast.

 

[psylockolussus]

Eye of the beholder. I though it was the weakest of the three.

Same here.

 

[matrix_ghost]

You know reading this news about QT being involved.....i wonder why the hell does this need to be R rated. Personal dislike for QT aside, is there any need for this. I personally liked the thre movies of late. The actors are solid, the VFX look good. All you need is a solid script. A solid PG-13 script.

 

[Dugath]

Well for those who thought the last movies were generic space action films with the ST name attached will be please it will now be a 80% dialog top heavy movie with a ST name attached.

I jest, but I do find his movies can get boring in places as there is sometimes alot of un-needed blah blah blah.

 

[matrix_ghost]

Well for those who thought the last movies were generic space action films with the ST name attached will be please it will now be a 80% dialog top heavy movie with a ST name attached.

I jest, but I do find his movies can get boring in places as there is sometimes alot of un-needed blah blah blah.

That's one of the problems i have with him.
No limit to his dialogue.

 

[shauner111]

Beyond was trash. Forgettable. It was about NOTHING.

It needs to be r rated because Tarantino needs to put his personality into everything he's making. It will take the franchise into a new area as well, but it's important for the filmmaker to do what they want. If it fails, so what? There's going to be a million more PG versions.