The Rise of Skywalker Star Wars IX Box Office Thread

[Warlock]

The reality is SW, like Bond, is an old franchise . It still makes money. and is beloved ,but it is an old franchise. That's demonstrated by the reality that most of the SW fan civil war is between middle aged and thirty somethings on both sides who were kids in the 70s through the 90s.

I think if there's any decline in SW it has less to do with a polarized fanbase ,and more to do with the fact that SW is something that's been passed down over 40 years to the children of today as opposed to the MCU in which was made for the children and teens of today.


The MCU is very much this generation's SW saga. That's not to say SW isn't popular , and won't make a fortune, but it means that it may not be considered the be all and end all to children who literally grew up with the MCU films .

I'm not going to argue about the MCU being the hottest property in movies worldwide, it is, clearly.

However the force awakened was the highest grossing movie in the US ever and still is, it. That was in 2015, so that didn't stop this generation turning out in record numbers. What has changed since then? Obviously the 10 year break helped with that particular box office, but if the subsequent movies were any good then episode 9 should gross between TFA and TLJ right? If we think it is going to follow the OT BO pattern. If it doesn't and it earns less than TLJ, then that is proof that Disney has mismanaged the SW franchise, and what it has done with this trilogy has not resonated with the fanbase. If it grosses more than TLJ, then maybe everything is fine after all.

The google trends and general lack of enthusiasm on social media and youtube is one indicator, but we won't know the reality of the state of play until December, everything else is opinion and guesswork.

However this being a Box Office thread, my prediction is $1-1.2 Billion, that is what I voted. It is very hard for me to imagine it doesn't at least gross a billion.

 

[Gothamsknight]

This film will do fine. Forbes is also reporting it could potentially have a 20% over TLJ.

 

[VSG]

Despite some fans criticism, The Force Awakens is a very fun and entertaining movie. That's why it was a huge success.

 

[Gothamsknight]

The force awakens is in my top 3 fave star wars films. To me, it's amazing with fantastic characters. TLJ is also in my top 5.

 

[Adhesive Boy]

Despite some fans criticism, The Force Awakens is a very fun and entertaining movie. That's why it was a huge success.

It's hard to be bad when you're basically copying the original movie. They tried though, doing things like the equivalent of Luke defeating Vader already in ANH, but still most of it is just a copy so it will naturally work.

 

[Lilbaz]

Both tlj and tfa looked great. If they were standalone and not a part of an ongoing story they would be really good (apart from the stupid side quest in tlj).

They both forgot that you don't need your film or characters to look good by making the old look bad. Any growth luke or han had in the ot was thrown away. Also their defeating the empire was pointless. Sad really.

 

[8ulk87]

Well Star Wars isnt at its best but its still one of the biggest franchises.

I expect SW9 to end up somewhere between SW8 ($1332,5 mil) and SW7 ($2068,2 mil).

I voted for $1,6-1,8 bil.

Dont think it will miss $1,5 bil or hit $2 bil. As a conclusion of the trilogy it should improve over the last one.

And although im not a big fan of the franchise im excited for the return of Ewan MacGregor and will definately see this opening day.

 

[Blade Hoarder]

Despite some fans criticism, The Force Awakens is a very fun and entertaining movie. That's why it was a huge success.

The phantom menace was also a huge success. Must be a great movie.

 

[Gothamsknight]

The force awakens was a critically acclaimed movie. And a better movie than the phantom menace

 

[VSG]

TFA was liked by the GA, a lot.

 

[Gothamsknight]

TFA introduced us to amazing new characters and it's also just a damn good film that i can watch on repeat multiple times. Saw it 6 times in the theater

 

[jmc]

This film will do fine. Forbes is also reporting it could potentially have a 20% over TLJ.

And if my uncle had breasts he'd be my aunt.

 

[Smurphftw]

Seeing the new footage did nothing to dissuade from my 1.5 billion+ prediction.

 

[daddydivine]

1.8 billion. Because JJ Abrams.

 

[Gothamsknight]

This is gonna be a mega hit. Anybody who thinks otherwise is in for a big awakening.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Both tlj and tfa looked great. If they were standalone and not a part of an ongoing story they would be really good (apart from the stupid side quest in tlj).

They both forgot that you don't need your film or characters to look good by making the old look bad. Any growth luke or han had in the ot was thrown away. Also their defeating the empire was pointless. Sad really.

TFA did not do that imo. It works under the same principle as Logan. A tragedy chased these characters into their comfort zone. It is the introduction of this new cause (as presented in Rey and her mission), that shakes them out of this.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The force awakens was a critically acclaimed movie. And a better movie than the phantom menace

The thing that marks the success of TFA with fans and general audiences alike, is that it had monster legs. It had the biggest opening of all time domestically, and then kept going. In comparison Endgame opened up to over 100m more, and still ended up basically 80m short of TFA's total. Both Infinity War and Endgame couldn't keep up in that regard, which is crazy when you think about it.

 

[Lilbaz]

TFA did not do that imo. It works under the same principle as Logan. A tragedy chased these characters into their comfort zone. It is the introduction of this new cause (as presented in Rey and her mission), that shakes them out of this.

You can't compare star wars to logan. Star wars was a classic fairy tale, with everything from an evil wizard to rescuing a princess. They defeated the evil emperor and were meant to have a happy ending. No, they didn't defeat the empire, no happy ending in fact their lives sucked. Now the empire is back with an even bigger super weapon and we have rey the perfect hero who doesn't need any help to save the day. We have a new darth vader (who's a bit of a cry baby) and a new emperor with a super mysterious background that we will never tell you about, but it was really cool honest and would have made total sense. In fact since we killed him we are going to bring back the old emperor, because han, luke and leia actually didn't achieve anything in the ot.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

You can't compare star wars to logan. Star wars was a classic fairy tale, with everything from an evil wizard to rescuing a princess. They defeated the evil emperor and were meant to have a happy ending. No, they didn't defeat the empire, no happy ending in fact their lives sucked. Now the empire is back with an even bigger super weapon and we have rey the perfect hero who doesn't need any help to save the day. We have a new darth vader (who's a bit of a cry baby) and a new emperor with a super mysterious background that we will never tell you about, but it was really cool honest and would have made total sense. In fact since we killed him we are going to bring back the old emperor, because han, luke and leia actually didn't achieve anything in the ot.

You can most certain compare Star Wars to Logan. Because both Star Wars and Logan are both heavily influenced by westerns. And what we get in TFA and Logan are very popular Western/Samurai flick tropes.

But beyond that, Star Wars is a space soap opera fantasy western samurai flick. The idea that they needed a happy ever after makes no sense in any context. Especially when episode VII was something that was going to happen, even with Lucas. And every iteration of it involved the big 3.

As you characterization of Rey makes me think you watched TFA one time. She doesn't even save the day. Oh, and as to Vader. Apparently you haven't watched most of Star Wars, because Darth Vader is the whiniest MF'er of them all.

 

[Gothamsknight]

You can most certain compare Star Wars to Logan. Because both Star Wars and Logan are both heavily influenced by westerns. And what we get in TFA and Logan are very popular Western/Samurai flick tropes.

But beyond that, Star Wars is a space soap opera fantasy western samurai flick. The idea that they needed a happy ever after makes no sense in any context. Especially when episode VII was something that was going to happen, even with Lucas. And every iteration of it involved the big 3.

As you characterization of Rey makes me think you watched TFA one time. She doesn't even save the day. Oh, and as to Vader. Apparently you haven't watched most of Star Wars, because Darth Vader is the whiniest MF'er of them all.

This, this, and this. Took the words right out of my mouth.

I'm getting tired of people saying Rey is good at everything. She struggled a lot in TFA and in TLJ, and not only that, but there's also dialogue from her explaining her flying skills in TFA and yet so many people ignore it. It's crazy and shows that they indeed only watched the film once.

 

[NotNickFury]

She struggled a lot in Last Jedi? Was that before she bested Luke or after she moved the rocks with ease because I for damn sure don't remember her struggling, as you said, "a lot" in that movie.

 

[Gothamsknight]

She struggled a lot in Last Jedi? Was that before she bested Luke or after she moved the rocks with ease because I for damn sure don't remember her struggling, as you said, "a lot" in that movie.

tell me again where she bested Luke? He beat her, and in a fit of rage she pulled out a lightsaber and he didn't allow himself to fall down. He easily could have force pushed her but he didn't want to hurt her.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

She struggled a lot in Last Jedi? Was that before she bested Luke or after she moved the rocks with ease because I for damn sure don't remember her struggling, as you said, "a lot" in that movie.

I don't like TLJ, but she never best Luke at... anything. Luke whoops her in their little stick fight, takes her stick and tosses it, which is when she calls for the lightsaber.

 

[Lilbaz]

You can most certain compare Star Wars to Logan. Because both Star Wars and Logan are both heavily influenced by westerns. And what we get in TFA and Logan are very popular Western/Samurai flick tropes.

But beyond that, Star Wars is a space soap opera fantasy western samurai flick. The idea that they needed a happy ever after makes no sense in any context. Especially when episode VII was something that was going to happen, even with Lucas. And every iteration of it involved the big 3.

As you characterization of Rey makes me think you watched TFA one time. She doesn't even save the day. Oh, and as to Vader. Apparently you haven't watched most of Star Wars, because Darth Vader is the whiniest MF'er of them all.

Didn't like anakin either.