Supergirl Supergirl General Discussion Thread - Part 2

[DigificWriter]

@X-Knight: I can see where you're coming from, yeah.

For the record, I think the jab at Bill O'Reilly was there more as a pop culture/current events reference and to establish that Cat Grant is the kind of person whose public profile makes her a regular attendee at functions like correspondence dinners and whose personality would clash with that of Mr. O'Reilly's than anything else.

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

I definitely cracked a smile. I swing more on the liberal side myself and I can't stand a lot of what I see on stations like MSNBC that are catered to the left. Being conservative, I imagine, doesn't guarantee jumping on the Fox News bandwagon.

I can only imagine how tough it would be to be a young conservative

Whether deserved or not, a common perception:

Young = democrat/liberal/new ideas/secular world.

Conservative= older/biblical religious dependency/older world view.

 

[JangoNate]

Fox News and O'reilly/Hannity are obviously entertainment. The problem is when their main base of viewers consider everything they say as the gospel. Scary

Definitely. It's like me being a Duke fan. I indulge in the entertaining propaganda of them being all awesome and stuff. It's fun for me, but I don't truly believe there one of the best teams to ever exist... Awe, who am I kidding. They are one of the best teams ever. t:

 

[X Knight]

Funny thing, it's my wife the rom com lover that said it, but the music is what does it in. I think if you took the same footage and used something a little more serious in tone and the impression we'd get would be something completely different.

I'm holding out hope, but she's completely turned off. Out of curiosity, how many in this conversation are girls and what are your thoughts?

well, I'm a guy who's a Superman fan and who loves superheroes and comic book stuff.

Rom-Com movies and tv shows aren't exactly my cup of tea.

But I like what I saw in the trailer. I don't mind the tone.

Of course, if it weren't about Supergirl ( and by extension Superman ), I'd probably be less interested.

Oh, and I have a thing for blondes. So that probably helps, too.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Saw trailer. Just not feeling it. Production values look tops but just about everything else seemed tedious to me.

And that little bit about the word "girl" misses the actual criticism by a light year's worth of distance.

This could still be FLASH level good... But that has it's own problems. It sure looks like super heroic action won't be skimped on, but... Yeah, literally everything else seems off for me. Benoist seems a good actor but the lines and writing apparent in the preview seemed very, ABC Afterschool special.

 

[Snow Queen]

yes. we do exist.

 

[terry78]

We'll see. It's still in its infancy. We all know stuff evolves.

 

[kedrell]

Just saw the first look. Still chewing it over. I liked some of the superheroic action stuff but I'm just trying to figure out how they'll marry it in a satisfying way to the very girly tone of all the rest of the show. Agent Carter was butch by comparison. I'm mixed on this so far and I really get a bad feeling this is like that ill fated Wonder Woman show 2.0. I hope not and maybe the humor will be the grease that keeps the parts from destroying each other due to friction since they don't necessarily mix. We'll see. But this'll now have competition in 2 forms given that there will be 2 other female led comic book shows on at the same time period so I hope they bring their A game.

 

[Snow Queen]

Saw trailer. Just not feeling it. Production values look tops but just about everything else seemed tedious to me.

And that little bit about the word "girl" misses the actual criticism by a light year's worth of distance.

This could still be FLASH level good... But that has it's own problems. It sure looks like super heroic action won't be skimped on, but... Yeah, literally everything else seems off for me. Benoist seems a good actor but the lines and writing apparent in the preview seemed very, ABC Afterschool special.

That part was bad. So was the tagline, but the latter I don't hold against it because it's just for the trailer. I saw where that was going right away and cringed.

 

[X Knight]

@X-Knight: I can see where you're coming from, yeah.

For the record, I think the jab at Bill O'Reilly was there more as a pop culture/current events reference and to establish that Cat Grant is the kind of person whose public profile makes her a regular attendee at functions like correspondence dinners and whose personality would clash with that of Mr. O'Reilly's than anything else.

and if they keep it at that, that's fine.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

Are there conservatives under the age of 50 now a days? I thought we all start out as democrats, and either remain or turn as we age.

Yes there are conservatives under the age of 50...

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

Supergirl would have made sense if she were 15-17. Apparently she is 24-25? Superwoman.

 

[JangoNate]

I can only imagine how tough it would be to be a young conservative

Whether deserved or not, a common perception:

Young = democrat/liberal/new ideas/secular world.

Conservative= older/biblical religious dependency/older world view.

Though an exception and not a rule, I am somebody who began as a young conservative and evolved into an older liberal. Main influence was my journey to become a Christian pastor.

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

Though an exception and not a rule, I am somebody who began as a young conservative and evolved into an older liberal. Main influence was my journey to become a Christian pastor.

You are an anomaly

Cool.

That's like finding another dimension you didn't know existed

 

[X Knight]

I can only imagine how tough it would be to be a young conservative

Whether deserved or not, a common perception:

Young = democrat/liberal/new ideas/secular world.

Conservative= older/biblical religious dependency/older world view.

funny thing is, I lean more conservative. yet I'm not religious.

and on some social issues, I'm actually more liberal.

I'm probably more libertarian than true total conservative.......lol.

labels......labels..........

 

[godisawesome]

Are there conservatives under the age of 50 now a days? I thought we all start out as democrats, and either remain or turn as we age.

...that's actually one of my (fairly rich, very conservative) uncle's jokes. "When you're young and have a heart, you're a democrat. When you're old and have a brain, you're a republican."

Yeah, I know.

Now, on Superman: I still thinks that the best way to show him and not have him upstage Supergirl would be to have Clark Kent show up and never appear in costume. Matt Bomer or someone else could just play country boy and reporter Clark, then show how he is involved with Kara's life.

And maybe imply that this world has so much chaos in Metropolis that he really can't show up.

 

[JangoNate]

I don't know if this has been touched on, I'm late to the conversation, but I don't know how I feel about Jimmy Olsen. Don't mind the race change or anything, but he seems a bit too manly for me. I've always considered him a bit nerdier. Maybe it's growing up with the Donner films...I don't know.

 

[DigificWriter]

The thing that I think some may be missing about Cat Grant's 'explanation' for giving Kara the Supergirl moniker is that it is clearly derived from a strong case of patent narcissism, and with somebody of Ms. Grant's public stature putting it out there, there's not a whole lot that Kara can do other than to embrace it... even if the justification for it does stink.

 

[X Knight]

 

[Young Superman]

The trailer reminded me of the SNL Black Widow trailer, I might give it a couple of eps but it seems too much like a rom com in tone for me.

Agree about the rom-com feel but, I'm still going to give it a try.

 

[X Knight]

I don't know if this has been touched on, I'm late to the conversation, but I don't know how I feel about Jimmy Olsen. Don't mind the race change or anything, but he seems a bit too manly for me. I've always considered him a bit nerdier. Maybe it's growing up with the Donner films...I don't know.

yeah. it is a change, but it seems like that other guy who has a crush on Kara is filling the nerdy guy quota.

 

[Snow Queen]

What's this SNL Black Widow trailer everyone is talking about?

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

funny thing is, I lean more conservative. yet I'm not religious.

and on some social issues, I'm actually more liberal.

I'm probably more libertarian than true total conservative.......lol.

labels......labels..........

It's a pretty common view though. Obviously exceptions to the rule, which was noted.

 

[JangoNate]

...that's actually one of my (fairly rich, very conservative) uncle's jokes. "When you're young and have a heart, you're a democrat. When you're old and have a brain, you're a republican."
Yeah, I know.

Now, on Superman: I still thinks that the best way to show him and not have him upstage Supergirl would be to have Clark Kent show up and never appear in costume. Matt Bomer or someone else could just play country boy and reporter Clark, then show how he is involved with Kara's life.

And maybe imply that this world has so much chaos in Metropolis that he really can't show up.

Ha ha! My wife's a pastor, too, and the husband of the pastor she works with said that same thing to us around the last election time. Honestly, I don't think it's so much that as its easier for us to push change when were younger and have a different view of the world. As we get older and more set in our ways we find change a bit harder to deal with and so we tend to be more conservative. Just my thoughts.

But you're absolutely right: Now onto Superman!

 

[X Knight]

...that's actually one of my (fairly rich, very conservative) uncle's jokes. "When you're young and have a heart, you're a democrat. When you're old and have a brain, you're a republican."

Yeah, I know.

Now, on Superman: I still thinks that the best way to show him and not have him upstage Supergirl would be to have Clark Kent show up and never appear in costume. Matt Bomer or someone else could just play country boy and reporter Clark, then show how he is involved with Kara's life.

And maybe imply that this world has so much chaos in Metropolis that he really can't show up.

I can see Superman showing up in the finale.

then, going forward, Clark/Superman make occasional appearances when needed.

or, perhaps, the finale will give Superman a reason to leave Earth for an extended period of time.

perhaps there's a larger alien threat looming so he wants to investigate it at the source.

or.....cough........he learns Lois is pregnant.......cough......