The Dark Knight Rises TDKR SPOILERS (read at your own risk)

[Solidus]

Everyone needs to pay close attention to the words that Shape chooses to use when he posts about a spoiler.

Theyre very important. He uses specific words on purpose. Make sure you go back and read them before trying to interpret exactly what he's trying to allude to.

Juss sayin'

Well said.

 

[kvz5]

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What did I say earlier? If Alfred told him he wished he could just find him happy in some random place, then I would expect Alfred to be happy when it plays out how he wanted.

I'm still very skeptical about the JGL ending.

 

[spiderliam]

Everyone needs to pay close attention to the words that Shape chooses to use when he posts about a spoiler.

Theyre very important. He uses specific words on purpose. Make sure you go back and read them before trying to interpret exactly what he's trying to allude to.

Juss sayin'

Yeah, his comment about

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blake literally not laying eyes on a BAT suit

has got me thinking...

 

[NateHevens]

A thought about the "ending" rumors.

I should note that after getting something very specific confirmed (those of you who read the original thread theShape and scoop12 were originally answering questions in [the one that's been closed] will know what I'm talking about), I haven't really been following any other spoilers. However, based on the reactions I've been reading here, and being surprised by something Bale said in the Toronto Sun (I read that before I saw the warnings to stay away from it on the general discussion thread... damn you Bale!!!!! ), I think I have a pretty decent idea of what the ending spoiler is.

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If you've read the blog post in my signature, then you know how I feel about the idea of anyone other than Bruce Wayne being Batman in Nolan's trilogy. The short version is this: I don't like it. And that is perhaps the understatement of the century. If there is even a one-second shot of someone other than Bruce Wayne being Batman, I will not like this film.

I should point out here that, considering all of the super-positive reviews of the movie I've seen, including theShape and scoop12's reactions, I do not believe that the ending will be as stated above. I doubt it'll be even close to that, because I really do think enough people share my... erm... dislike... of that type of ending that it wouldn't get such high praise.

So what could the ending be? Bale suggested that it left open the chance for a spin-off (I still can't believe I read that, too... ). It would appear that it involves JGL's character in some way. I'm guessing he doesn't put on the Batsuit, and I'm hoping it doesn't even hint at that, but I'm wondering... is the suggestion that he stumbles on something involving Bruce and Batman? Like the bunker or even the cave?

As long as it doesn't hint that he goes to put the Batsuit on, I'd be okay with that. Maybe it's accidental, maybe it's on purpose... but what if it's just a catharsis for him. He (like the rest of Gotham, I imagine) already knows Bruce is Batman, but to find the place where Bruce made the transformation, if you will, might be cathartic for Blake; almost like it's a pilgrimage or something like that.

That I could see. That I could stomach just fine if it works in context, and from everything we're reading, teh end, whatever it may be, appears to work perfectly in context.

theShape has also confirmed that JGL never lays his eyes on a Batsuit, which makes me feel so much better.

I also agree with theShape when he says that we need to stop freaking out. It seems pretty obvious, judging by both the professional and layman reactions, that this film, and the ending attached to it, might very well be the best movie of 2012. Some are already predicting that it will be an Oscar heavyweight.

So relax, y'all. I'm already quite certain the JGL does not put on the Batsuit, so whatever the ending is, it will be absolutely awesome.

So, all that said, I'm done. Not with the board, of course, but with spoilers. The thing I was looking to get confirmed, that [BLACKOUT]Marion Cotillard is, in fact, playing Talia Al Ghul[/BLACKOUT], is something I basically already knew, but having it confirmed officially is nice. So I'm good for the rest of this film. I'll be seeing the movie on midnight of the 19th-20th in Kennesaw, GA. I absolutely cannot wait to share with all of you in discussion of this film, although I'll probably be sleeping immediately after. Since there are currently no plans to see it again, I'm going to have to dream about it to see it again...

 

[Bat]

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Looks like the spoilers I had were true all along. Blake takes over (as Batman or new identity), and Bruce leaves Gotham for Italy with Selina to live the life Alfred always wanted him to have. Gotham is destroyed and plans to rebuild stronger than before.

and to think TheShape emoticon vomited at me when I brought these up. Shame on you.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

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So, he just doesn't want to be Batman anymore. He wants to have a normal life. Okay, I get it. It's not just my vision of Batman.

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Understandable, but this isn't your typical Batman portrayal. I mean, if you read TDKReturns, then you should know the ending sounds very familiar.

"After Bruce's funeral, it is revealed that his death was staged as an elaborate ruse; Clark Kent (Superman) attends the funeral and gives Robin a knowing wink after hearing Bruce's heartbeat as he leaves the grave site, suggesting his silent approval of what will happen next. Some time afterward, Batman leads Robin, Green Arrow, and the rest of his followers into the caverns beyond the Batcave and prepares to continue his fight. His plan, which will take years of training and studying, is to build an army, and to bring sense to a world plagued by something "worse than thieves and murderers". He decides that this will be a "good life – good enough."

Granted, some aspects were altered but this has been done before with Batman.

 

[Solidus]

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Looks like the spoilers I had were true all along. Blake takes over (as Batman or new identity), and Bruce leaves Gotham for Italy with Selina to live the life Alfred always wanted him to have. Gotham is destroyed and plans to rebuild stronger than before.

Ummm did you just read theShapes posts in the last page? He shined some lights on some of that stuff. Mainly the stuff about Blake.

 

[surrender903]

This is the most fun I've had on a Friday night in a while.

Yay!

 

[lililatigresse]

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Understandable, but this isn't your typical Batman portrayal. I mean, if you read TDKReturns, then you should know the ending sounds very familiar.

"After Bruce's funeral, it is revealed that his death was staged as an elaborate ruse; Clark Kent (Superman) attends the funeral and gives Robin a knowing wink after hearing Bruce's heartbeat as he leaves the grave site, suggesting his silent approval of what will happen next. Some time afterward,Batman leads Robin, Green Arrow, and the rest of his followers into the caverns beyond the Batcave and prepares to continue his fight. His plan, which will take years of training and studying, is to build an army, and to bring sense to a world plagued by something "worse than thieves and murderers". He decides that this will be a "good life – good enough."

Granted, some aspects were altered but this has been done before with Batman.

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This is the most important part to me. So, does Bruce plan to train Blake?

 

[samsnee]

So it's like the ending to Good Will Hunting where Ben Affleck goes to pick up Matt Damon and smiles when realizes he's left in the middle of the night to go after the girl.

 

[Bat]

Ummm did you just read theShapes posts in the last page? He shined some lights on some of that stuff. Mainly the stuff about Blake.

Ummmm, yeah I did actually. He said

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Blake never lays his eyes on the Batsuit. That doesn't mean he doesn't get access to all of it. I don't know how it plays out on screen yet, he does.

 

[Ras Al Fool]

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Wait, so the cafe ending is real??

Well, that sucks.

 

[Bat]

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Wait, so the cafe ending is real??

Well, that sucks.

Why does it suck? Have you seen the movie to justify saying it sucks? A million dollars says you haven't.

 

[redbirds]

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Wait, so the cafe ending is real??

Well, that sucks.

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What people I think are not getting is that the whole cafe thing is like 1/15 of the ending. Its just a quick part of it

 

[redbirds]

Ummmm, yeah I did actually. He said

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Blake never lays his eyes on the Batsuit. That doesn't mean he doesn't get access to all of it. I don't know how it plays out on screen yet, he does.

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But him having access to it doesn't mean he ever decides to take up the task.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Ummmm, yeah I did actually. He said

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Blake never lays his eyes on the Batsuit. That doesn't mean he doesn't get access to all of it. I don't know how it plays out on screen yet, he does.

Here's other [blackout]confirmation[/blackout] for you, Bat:

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link

 

[Bat]

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But him having access to it doesn't mean he ever decides to take up the task.

Exactly. It's open ended, but implied.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

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This is the most important part to me. So, does Bruce plan to train Blake?

Wait, wha-?

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How exactly did you arrive on this theory regarding Bruce deciding to train Blake? Shape never stated or gave the impressive that Wayne passed the cowl onto Blake. In fact, Shape just confirmed that JGL not once glances at the Batsuit.

 

[redbirds]

Here's other [blackout]confirmation[/blackout] for you, Bat:

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link

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Sounds like Blake is Nolans version of Robin, without really putting "robin" per se in the film. I think its a great way to put robin. He's like a side kick, but not a superhero one. Just a cop, but could in the future be his own super hero or protector

 

[Ras Al Fool]

Why does it suck? Have you seen the movie to justify saying it sucks? A million dollars says you haven't.

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Because it confirms that Blake becomes a new Batman (or some **** like that) which is just total crap because they just introduced this character and it'll feel tacked on and cheesy. Blake doesn't even seem like a tough dude.

 

[Bat]

Here's other [blackout]confirmation[/blackout] for you, Bat:

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link

That falls in line with everything now doesn't it.

 

[redbirds]

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Because it confirms that Blake becomes a new Batman (or some **** like that) which is just total crap because they just introduced this character and it'll feel tacked on and cheesy. Blake doesn't even seem like a tough dude.

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Theshape said he doesn't ever even look at the bat suit. I don't think its implied he would become batman at all. I think its implied he is sort of like Robin. And honestly, considering he is bruces friend early on, its a very realistic non-super hero way of interpreting Robin. if thats the case, I think its well done. It takes the cheese out and makes a realistic version of a side kick. A trusted friend who is just a cop that helps out the super hero. Like Gordon, but a younger more idealistic version

 

[Bat]

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Because it confirms that Blake becomes a new Batman (or some **** like that) which is just total crap because they just introduced this character and it'll feel tacked on and cheesy. Blake doesn't even seem like a tough dude.

That's how you want to think of it now before you get the whole picture. I'll bet you won't think that after the movie.

 

[batmanofbaylor]

i would love the film to end with

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a VO of gordon addressing the people of gotham re: batman's sacrifice, then cut to cafe scene, cut to blake scene with the epic "rise" track playing in the background. THAT would deliver imo. i wonder how far off that is...

 

[Ras Al Fool]

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Theshape said he doesn't ever even look at the bat suit. I don't think its implied he would become batman at all. I think its implied he is sort of like Robin. And honestly, considering he is bruces friend early on, its a very realistic non-super hero way of interpreting Robin. if thats the case, I think its well done.

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Robin? That's even worse. And like I said, he seems weak. Look at the way Chris Judge's character pushes Blake. That push wasn't that powerful, yet Blake flew down like he was nothing. But anyway, whatever. I'll wait till the movie and see if the ending is great, though I really wish that a final shot or something would involve the real Batman. Doesn't look like it since Bruce isn't in Gotham anymore.