The Dark Knight Rises TDKR SPOILERS (read at your own risk)

[Greens]

Is the spoiler in the Bale interview BIG? There are people who say it's not a big deal, and others are disappointed by what he says...

 

[ImAlwaysAngry]

I never said it was a deep movie. My point was you don't open with $60m and end up with nearly $300m because people hated the ending of your film.

I totally didn't think to check the box office numbers before forming my opinion. My mistake.

Ha.

Look, I know I'm in the minority. But the fact that Nolan is considered deep says more about the state of popular films than it does about him.

Compared to Green Lantern, The Dark Knight looks like the three colors trilogy or an Ozu flick, I'll give you that. But I'm not big on grading on a curve.

 

[Rogzilla]

If you say so, but I found Inception's ending to be beautifully crafted.

It was, espcially because it really wasn't ending on a question.

Spoiler

All that "Is he dreaming?" stuff was audience speculation. I recall reading in an interview Nolan's whole point with that shot was that Cobb WASN'T LOOKING. He didn't care anymore.

It is still an ambiguous ending, of course. But those are the best. You can discuss an ambiguous ending.

Honestly, I didn't feel the need to wrap that in spoiler tags, but I figured someone would complain, so there you go.

 

[kvz5]

Is the spoiler in the Bale interview BIG? There are people who say it's not a big deal, and others are disappointed by what he says...

It talks about the possible future of a character if that makes sense.

 

[Solidus]

Spoiler

He's the director. Why shouldn't I care with what he says? I wanted to see in what context he said it because I can't recall him ever saying Batman in his interviews but it seems like he did. All I remember is him saying Bruce Wayne's journey which makes sense in this context. Not sure what you're being confrontational about. Geez.

Just that theShape and many others have praised the ending and some are just freaking out about it. It is bringing back war flashbacks of TDK when people did the exact same thing when the ending leaked prior to it's release. It's nothing personal, I just hate the cyclical nature of it.

Having said that I wanted to quote theShape and some of his things again:

This is all I will say regarding the ending of TDKR. I'm not giving spoilers, and I'm not confirming or denying ANYTHING specific. You don't have to worry about reading this post, but I'll put it in a spoiler tag anyways:

Spoiler

Yes, I have seen a chunk of the ending written out on the Internet. It is out there. Many versions are way off, some are pretty close. However, I have NOT seen anyone write something that accurately reflects what plays out on screen. By that, I mean that the versions that are pretty close are either all mixed up (out of order), completely generalized/vague, or completely missing the point (and the essence) of the ending.

Also, people seem to be considering the last several shots of the film to be "the ending", and as we know, an ending is much more complete than that. Was Batman being chased by dogs the ending of The Dark Knight? Or was Alfred burning the letter "the ending"? At this point, people are reading WAY too much into certain rumors and I'm not sure why anyone is so worried. Even some of the things I have read sound pretty awful out of context.

I almost wish I could just openly talk about it with you guys now so I could PWN so many people who are saying such ridiculous things. People might be sick of the way I've been talking to everyone on here sometimes, but I never imagined I'd be in this position (having seen the film 2 weeks early) or that everyone would be so up in arms and desperate to read the true ending. You have no idea that ridiculous PMs, Facebook messages, and Tweets people have sent to me about the ending. SHEER PANIC.

Regarding the ending, most of you are way off and are either completely incorrect or completely misreading things. And like I said, I haven't seen anyone write it out the way would appear in the screenplay, novelization, or even a Wikipedia synopsis! As Arnold would say....CHILL.

No one is picking up the franchise and "continuing this series". It's over and done with. I'd bet my life on it.

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

Where is this interview?

 

[Solidus]

man talk about stubborn! how many jesus christ are there??????? for the love of god man im sure the ending is going to be exellent but bruce wayne is bats

That's not the point and your missing it. Like Hercules as you said before, many generals or Emperors claimed to be of the blood line of these heroes or legends, in a sense to say they are the continuation of them. Just like many have claimed that Christ or other religious figures guides their morals. Just as some may take up arms and go under the banner or moral code of the Bat.

 

[Greens]

It talks about the possible future of a character if that makes sense.

Is the [BLACKOUT]sentence under the title of the article[/BLACKOUT] an indication?

 

[The Shape]

There's nothing subtle about that ending. It's hacky. Just my opinion, but ending on a question for the question's sake is gross.

Good thing it doesn't end on a question.

 

[redbirds]

Just that theShape and many others have praised the ending and some are just freaking out about it. It is bringing back war flashbacks of TDK when people did the exact same thing when the ending leaked prior to it's release. It's nothing personal, I just hate the cyclical nature of it.

Having said that I wanted to quote theShape and some of his things again:

This is probably the most important TheShape quote out there online. Everyone freaking out should read that.

 

[mandisab]

That's not the point and your missing it. Like Hercules as you said before, many generals or Emperors claimed to be of the blood line of these heroes or legends, in a sense to say they are the continuation of them. Just like many have claimed that Christ or other religious figures guides their morals. Just as some may take up arms and go under the banner or moral code of the Bat.

i know what you are saying. but i have a different way of seeing it. but thanks for the argument solidus.

 

[Nigma]

I'm actually surprised we don't know much about Gordon yet. As far as I know he is a pretty major character, too, right?

I hope they do him justice here.

 

[ImAlwaysAngry]

It was, espcially because it really wasn't ending on a question.

Spoiler

All that "Is he dreaming?" stuff was audience speculation. I recall reading in an interview Nolan's whole point with that shot was that Cobb WASN'T LOOKING. He didn't care anymore.

It is still an ambiguous ending, of course. But those are the best. You can discuss an ambiguous ending.

Honestly, I didn't feel the need to wrap that in spoiler tags, but I figured someone would complain, so there you go.

That's a great point, Rog, but I feel it is overshadowed by the speculation, and to be honest, the film doesn't exactly shy away from asking for that speculation.

As I've said, though, my problem with that movie isn't the ending. The ending is symptomatic of my problem with the movie.

Done with the Inception thing. I've explained myself as best I can on it and it's totally off topic.

I'm a Big fan of Nolan's bat films. Which is the reason we're all here.

 

[Solidus]

i know what you are saying. but i have a different way of seeing it. but thanks for the argument solidus.

No problem it's what this place is for lol.

 

[ImAlwaysAngry]

Good thing it doesn't end on a question.

It's certainly winking at one.

 

[mandisab]

I wonder how scarecrow is going to end in this film??? locked like the joker or killed like the other the other rogues in this trilogy. he is persistent and keeps popping in movies.

 

[Rogzilla]

It's certainly winking at one.

Is it? We assume it is based on some conjecture and hearsay (did I spell either of those right?) but we won't know until we see the movie. Maybe it will be a question. But maybe it won't.

 

[The Shape]

It's certainly winking at one.

I mean, there's no wink. The story ends. We know what happens, and we have a good idea of what WILL happen.

Spoiler

Any ending can be considered open, because there are endless possibilities we can guess about as to what happens in the future in that world (which we will never see). If Bruce were to remain Batman and live on, we'd be guessing at all the things he'd be doing after this, right? But no one will ever know for sure. This can also be said for the endings of Spider-man 3, Return of the Jedi, etc.

 

[ImAlwaysAngry]

My peace offering here is that the rotating hallway scene was exceptional.

(technical achievement)

 

[kvz5]

Is the [BLACKOUT]sentence under the title of the article[/BLACKOUT] an indication?

Kind of.

 

[ImAlwaysAngry]

Oh, Shape, I'm sorry! You're talking TDKR! I thought you were on the Inception thing.

Should've known you were on topic.

I am looking forward to how Nolan ends his trilogy here. Even if it's close to what's been discussed, I'm game. I'm confident he'll stick the landing.

 

[Godmaul]

I really dig the post that came last page about

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A will from Bruce, leading Blake to the cave with a modified suit and cash for Alfred to enjoy his life

 

[serendipity]

Kind of.

Would you or someone be able to direct me to this article? I'm not sure I'm finding the one being talked about.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

It was, espcially because it really wasn't ending on a question.

Spoiler

All that "Is he dreaming?" stuff was audience speculation. I recall reading in an interview Nolan's whole point with that shot was that Cobb WASN'T LOOKING. He didn't care anymore.

It is still an ambiguous ending, of course. But those are the best. You can discuss an ambiguous ending.

Honestly, I didn't feel the need to wrap that in spoiler tags, but I figured someone would complain, so there you go.

Bingo!

I'll concede that Inception was Nolan's 'shallowest' film (per se) on his resume, but the final five minutes to Inception were cinematic gold. The editing, the score and the reunion of Cobb and his family was nicely done. I loved it.

 

[kvz5]

Would you or someone be able to direct me to this article? I'm not sure I'm finding the one being talked about.

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/07/13/christian-bale-dark-knight-rises-goes-full-circle