The Dark Knight Rises The 80th TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread - - - - - Part 85

[Kane52630]

 

[Nevincer]

What are the current pros and cons of Team Outside?

 

[The_Raganork]

You know what supports Team Outside Gotham the most?

Shirtless Bruce. If it's winter he couldn't go shirtless like that.

 

[ThreadPool]

Not sure, things are still producing black smoke in that shot, so I'm going to say this is right after something really terrible.

I don't think there's anyplace to land so they're assessing the damage done.

That's what I'm leaning towards.
Must... Avoid... Further... TV spots.

 

[Nevincer]

You know what supports Team Outside Gotham the most?

Shirtless Bruce. If it's winter he couldn't go shirtless like that.

Bane's lair has great heating and air conditioning installed straight from WayneTech

 

[lililatigresse]

You know what supports Team Outside Gotham the most?

Shirtless Bruce. If it's winter he couldn't go shirtless like that.

I never thought of that, but you're totally right!

 

[Blue Sugar]

Fight in the Bat-cave would have been awesome of course. The problem is I don't think this version of Bane would ever let the Bat-cave just stay as it is but rather destroy it and all the vehicles, tools and toys. And I want the cave to still be there when Bruce returns.

And about how long Batman has been gone, I still don't think it's so black and white and that he was active after TDK but it became less with time and eventually ending without being in the suit for maybe 4-6 years.

 

[Greens]

I wonder when they'll take a break with this epic marketing blitz.

 

[Dragon_316ca]

TotalFilm copycat?

 

[Travesty]

And about how long Batman has been gone, I still don't think it's so black and white and that he was active after TDK but it became less with time and eventually ending without being in the suit for maybe 4-6 years.

Nah, I'm on Team Fully Retired.

 

[Greens]

TotalFilm copycat?

They picked the wrong cover to copy.

 

[Travesty]

TotalFilm copycat?

Batman looks REALLY stoned here.

-Whoa, Bane...settle down, mannnnn.

 

[floreairfoot]

haha, he called me a Princess too?

I missed all the fun!

O, you really did.

And after all that happened, he tries to casually slide back into talking Batman.

 

[Nevincer]

He was really oblivious to it all. That was the annoying thing.

 

[The_Raganork]

O, you really did.

And after all that happened, he tries to casually slide back into talking Batman.

Silly Rabbit.

Rag slays trolls.

He was really oblivious to it all. That was the annoying thing.

No he wasn't.

He once sent me a long pm about how he didn't mind gay people but thought it shouldn't be something people talked outwardly about because it was wrong and weird.

 

[Norek]

I wonder when we'll find out if Team Outside or Team Inside Gotham won.

Team Outside all the way!

 

[Kenobryan]

King.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

What are the current pros and cons of Team Outside?

Spoiler

Joey King probably filmed inside the Cardington Hanger. She posted a video in May of last year at a hotel which I suspected was in Bedford because of a pamphlet on the dresser stand in the background. I was never 100% sure but it makes sense to me that it says Bedford on the cover. Yes, that's nutty research I was doing last May but I've never disclosed it all.

Days later she twittered that she went to London for the first time and left the countryside behind. Aliensarchive earlier this year said he had a Cardington call sheet with her name on it with her climbing out of the cave according to his description. It adds up.

 

[NateHevens]

What are the current pros and cons of Team Outside?

My memory on this is fuzzy, but here it is from my perspective:

Pros:
-They filmed all the scenes involving Bale being thrown into and jumping out of the pit in India
-Deshay Basara being chanted by the prisoners
-When Bruce asks one of his fellow prisoners what "deshay basara" means, the prisoner's accent is NOT US-American at all... it's almost British.
-Possible flashback of a young Talia Al Ghul climbing out of the pit
-The pit is in the Desert. Where does Gotham have a desert?
-Some confirmed flashback scenes already take place in India
-No one knows where Bruce is

Cons:
-The logistics of it. It does seem as if it'd be a waste to fly Bruce all the way out to India or Morocco just to imprison him; especially since they won't be shipping any of the other prisoners out
-It appears as if Bane makes it so that no one is leaving or entering Gotham... that'd make it hard to get Bruce out, let alone for him to get back in.
-Gotham's sewers appear to be huge. I don't see why the LOS couldn't have been building a prison down their unnoticed for years. And in case you claim that's unrealistic... let's not forget that, in the TDKR prologue, Bane transfers some of Dr. Pavel's blood into a cadaver so those who find the plane think Dr. Pavel is dead... in Nolan's world, if that can be done, so can the LOS build a giant prison under Gotham without being detected for many years.

There are more pros and cons, but I can't think of them off the top of my head.

You know what supports Team Outside Gotham the most?

Shirtless Bruce. If it's winter he couldn't go shirtless like that.

That is actually a good point. It's not like the prison will have heating/air conditioning, so this makes sense as a pro for Team Outside Gotham.

 

[ggghhh]

3. Deshay Basara. We know this is chanted in the prison by the prisoners because, in the first trailer, Bruce asks a cell-mate what it means. Why would US-American prisoners be chanting this at all?

Hm, I would disagree on the chanting. A similar argument was used to say that it was Bane climbing the well.

There's no evidence of the prisoners chanting, and they're all shown chilling when Bruce steps out of his cell.
It still seems like he might be explaining a phrase from a foreign language though.

 

[Norek]

The thing is, Wally Pfister said in an interview a while ago that they filmed some stuff in the desert [in India] that ties in with the Cardington sets. So it's possible that they constructed the well inside the hangar, and they used India for the exterior shots when Bruce climbs out and escapes.

 

[EliteF50]

Batman looks REALLY stoned here.

-Whoa, Bane...settle down, mannnnn.

 

[kvz5]

Wally Pfister also said that they filmed the desert backdrop in India.

ETA: What Norek said.

 

[Greens]

Hm, I would disagree on the chanting. A similar argument was used to say that it was Bane climbing the well.

There's no evidence of the prisoners chanting, and they're all shown chilling when Bruce steps out of his cell.
It still seems like he might be explaining a phrase from a foreign language though.

He could be asking about anything, like a guard giving an order in a foreign language.

 

[Caped Crusader]

Batman looks REALLY stoned here.

-Whoa, Bane...settle down, mannnnn.