The Dark Knight Rises The 80th TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread - - - - - Part 85

[Anjow1060]

Anyone have a feeling something kinda crazy is gonna hit us tomorrow?

I mean, at this point.... the absolute best we could get would be a viral for pre-screenings or.... dare I say....


a clip?

- Jow

 

[Dragon_316ca]

Paul Franklin:

And now the shouting is all done - FINAL!!! ‪#TDKR

Shouting? What the heck that means? lol

 

[kvz5]

Shouting after the screening?

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Paul Franklin:


Shouting? What the heck that means? lol

He said two days ago the VFX were all done except the shouting. Now, the shouting is done too.

 

[The_Raganork]

So you think there's a pit in Gotham? Which shots do you think are from that one if so?

Most dealing with Bruce I think are in Gotham.

I don't see why Bane would take Bruce out of Gotham. I get why he imprisons him, I just don't see the significance of moving him.

Gotham in turmoil seems as good of place as any to imprison someone. A Bancecave to Batman's Batcave

Though I understand, mostly agree and respect outside Gotham arguments.

 

[kvz5]

So if the shouting just got done then is it really true that there was a screening today?

 

[Notrip]

so everyone shouted when the film was done!!! lol, NOLAN! NOLAN! or Desha desha basira basira!!! or

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Gotham City is a war zone. A ruthless madman named Bane has ripped away any sense of security and the citizens, haggard and clutching suitcases with refugee anxiety, sit behind barbed wire waiting to see what will blow up next. A hooded prisoner is dragged in – it’s Bruce Wayne, one of Gotham’s most famous faces – but the eyes of the crowd go instead to the woman in black standing at the top of the staircase.

“Sorry to spoil things, boys, but Bane needs these guys himself,” says sultry Selina Kyle, played here by actress Anne Hathaway, navigating the steps with stiletto heels that, on closer inspection, turn out to have serrated edges capable of leaving nasty claw marks in a fight. She also wears high-tech goggles that, when not in use, flip up and resemble feline ears.

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011...r-anne-hathaway-gotham-city-is-full-of-grace/

Still have no idea where this fits in.

 

[Norek]

Most dealing with Bruce I think are in Gotham.

I don't see why Bane would take Bruce out of Gotham. I get why he imprisons him, I just don't see the significance of moving him.

Gotham in turmoil seems as good of place as any to imprison someone.

Though I understand, mostly agree and respect outside Gotham arguments.

As far as I remember, Bale shot scenes in India as well right? I don't know if he shot in the desert thought.

And yeah, I have no idea why Bane would take him far away from Gotham - if anything, it would be more significant if he actually stays in Gotham, and is able to watch [or experience as a whole] his city burn. But maybe there's something to it we don't know yet. Something that would explain why Bane would choose to move Bruce out of Gotham.

 

[kvz5]

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011...r-anne-hathaway-gotham-city-is-full-of-grace/

Still have no idea where this fits in.

Yeah I'm stumped on that one. Maybe CW is forced to pretend to still be allied with Bane (even if she's afraid of him and she saw what he did to Batman) so she can help out. I don't know honestly.

 

[Dragon_316ca]

So if the shouting just got done then is it really true that there was a screening today?

Roger Nall's wife better tell him something......soon.

 

[Goku Goes Crazy]

I definitely think the pit/prison is outside of Gotham.

 

[jonnywhc]

I doubt a pre-screening will happen for us mere mortals, just because the film is so high profile and they wouldn't risk someone tweeting the ending out. Could be wrong but it doesn't seem likely to me atm.

 

[The_Raganork]

As far as I remember, Bale shot scenes in India as well right? I don't know if he shot in the desert thought.

And yeah, I have no idea why Bane would take him far away from Gotham - if anything, it would be more significant if he actually stays in Gotham, and is able to watch [or experience as a whole] his city burn. But maybe there's something to it we don't know yet. Something that would explain why Bane would choose to move Bruce out of Gotham.

Indeed the lack of information could yield something that brides this all together.

I do think we see Bruce in India at some point however I still think after being defeated by Bane his imprisoned in Gotham whilst Bane deals with Gordon and the others and brings Gotham to it's knees.

Also anyone notice the parallels? Wayne is hooded in that description, same way Bane and his men are in the prologue.

 

[jonnywhc]

so everyone shouted when the film was done!!! lol, NOLAN! NOLAN! or Desha desha basira basira!!! or

NOLAN NOLAN! CHRIS CHRIS NOLAN NOLAN!

love that vid t:

 

[redfirebird2008]

I doubt a pre-screening will happen for us mere mortals, just because the film is so high profile and they wouldn't risk someone tweeting the ending out. Could be wrong but it doesn't seem likely to me atm.

Hollywood always does test screenings. Bet there are non-disclosure agreements signed with the people who get to participate.

 

[kvz5]

Rag, at which point were you thinking to see Bruce in India (or whatever it's doubling for) if it's not during the time he was imprisoned?

 

[Hype_the_Hero]

So if the shouting just got done then is it really true that there was a screening today?

No

https://***********/PaulJFranklin/status/205758751746166784

 

[Dragon_316ca]

 

[Tojo]

TDKR takes place approximately 8 years after TDKR. In between TDK and TDKR, Bats is in hibernation, AKA inactive. Is this correct? No crime fighting for around 8 years?

No, and i'd bet my last dime on this.

Look at the batcave! It was being re-built alongside the Wayne Manor re-development during TDK, and would have taken years to get it to the state it's in. Why would he keep building when he retired straight after TDK? 8 yrs is too long for him to disappear. What was Wayne doing for that time?

My educated guess is that after TDK he lay low for a while, but came back and was active for some years, chased by all sorts of agencies while trying to clean the city up. Then over time he phased himself out, and and at the start of TDK(assuming it is a chronological film, i.e- no flashbacks), he his in a state of retirement. If his limp is an injury from the end of TDK, then how does he recover from that during the course of ~TDKR? Nonsensical. I think his injury may be from a close encounter with the police, like a chase or something, and because he is past his physical peak, he get's messed up, and then retires...or maybe it happens before the film.

 

[jonnywhc]

Hollywood always does test screenings. Bet there are non-disclosure agreements signed with the people who get to participate.

Yeah but for a film this big..perhaps it won't happen. And if it does it'll be more industry-types id think. Or I'll happily sign anything to see it

 

[The_Raganork]

Rag, at which point were you thinking to see Bruce in India (or whatever it's doubling for) if it's not during the time he was imprisoned?

I'm not sure. I think it's a flashback for some reason. I don't have any reason to believe this but I think he has a flashback in the fort dealing with his LoS days or something.

I think we're trying to piece too much with so little information too.

Up until the last trailer we were all convinced Selina behind the bars were at the prison too.

 

[NateHevens]

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011...r-anne-hathaway-gotham-city-is-full-of-grace/

Still have no idea where this fits in.

This would actually be another con for Team Outside Gotham. What would they all be doing outside of Gotham? Bruce I understand... everybody else, not so much.

As far as I remember, Bale shot scenes in India as well right? I don't know if he shot in the desert thought.

If I remember correctly, he did shoot in the desert. I was under the impression that the scenes of him being thrown into the pit and jumping out of the pit were filmed in that desert in India.

And yeah, I have no idea why Bane would take him far away from Gotham - if anything, it would be more significant if he actually stays in Gotham, and is able to watch [or experience as a whole] his city burn. But maybe there's something to it we don't know yet. Something that would explain why Bane would choose to move Bruce out of Gotham.

This is a very strong point. Either way, Wayne feeling like he couldn't help Gotham will be part of his torture. The question is, would that torture be more of an impact if he could hear the city falling, or if he was so far away there's no sign of Gotham other than in his head? This question is the hardest one for me to answer. Both would be horribly torturous in their own way...

No, and i'd bet my last dime on this.

Look at the batcave! It was being re-built alongside the Wayne Manor re-development during TDK, and would have taken years to get it to the state it's in. Why would he keep building when he retired straight after TDK? 8 yrs is too long for him to disappear. What was Wayne doing for that time?

My educated guess is that after TDK he lay low for a while, but came back and was active for some years, chased by all sorts of agencies while trying to clean the city up. Then over time he phased himself out, and and at the start of TDK(assuming it is a chronological film, i.e- no flashbacks), he his in a state of retirement. If his limp is an injury from the end of TDK, then how does he recover from that during the course of ~TDKR? Nonsensical. I think his injury may be from a close encounter with the police, like a chase or something, and because he is past his physical peak, he get's messed up, and then retires...or maybe it happens before the film.

Here's why I don't think he's inactive that whole 8 years:
1. He needs Batman. If there's nothing obvious for Batman to do, Bruce will find an excuse. Think about it... Batman has to enforce the whole Harvey Dent act... make sure the band-aid is on tight. My bet is Nolan's Batman does have a "rogue's gallery" of sorts by TDKR, but it's made up mostly of petty criminals and crime bosses instead of the ones we're all familiar with.

2. The cane. We already know that the cane is not a result of his first fight with Bane. I refuse to believe that he's still on a cane eight years after the encounter that killed Two-Face, because if so, then Bruce has always been weak as hell and will never heal from it. I believe the cane is a result of two things: a) a accumulation of injuries sustained starting with that fall at the end of TDK and then continuing through at least part of that 8-year gap, and b) mental faculties and where Bruce's head is at that time. It's quite possible that the cane is more of a mental manifestation than anything, that he doesn't actually need it, but clings to it almost like a security blanket.

So no, Batman is not totally inactive during that eight-year gap. He might be inactive for the last two or three years, but I'm convinced that, during most of that 8-year gap, Batman was active, even if in only a minor way.

 

[lililatigresse]

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011...r-anne-hathaway-gotham-city-is-full-of-grace/

Still have no idea where this fits in.

Maybe that's when Bruce comes back to Gotham. Maybe they arrested him and this time, Selina helps him.

What I don't like about this theory is that Selina must know that Bruce is Batman.

 

[Notrip]

I thought I read that Paul Franklin said the score was done? he was there to hear the recording or something. Must be they are working on lining up the score to scenes and all that stuff. but he didnt mention editing so my guess is its a couple weeks away and Nolan is a perfectionist so I assume he will nitpick at it tell the end of June!