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Discussion in 'The Amazing Spider-Man Movies' started by Thread Manager, Jul 3, 2012.
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I know this is early, but I wonder if Marc Webb will get more free reign for the sequel should he come back. Like, TASM is a studio film and the sequel should be more of Webb's creativeness and all that. Similar to BB & TDK.
Maybe they learned their lesson.
Caught it earlier today at River East AMC downtown Chicago. Full house of course. I enjoyed it, it was a different take on the mythos per Ultimate, and I liked how they kept a few things open and alluded to stuff that most comic fans would know about. Garfield definitely played Parker as awkward yet kind of self aware at the same time, as he knows how he comes across and just kind of self deprecates it in order to compensate. Stone as Gwen was pitch perfect.
the score wasn't that great. the piano lol that was just bad lol
i havent seen it yet, but i have seen the 25 minute clip together. you talking about the little off key piano hit when the lizard was walking around? personally i thought it was creative. i dont know how it flows in the movie, but the idea of it i thought was nice.
okay just came back from the theatre and I'll make a better review tomorow as I'm so tired right now and need sleep.
Amazing Spider-Man fully lives up to it's title, emotional to its core, a wise-ass Spidey, and action that puts the older trilogy to shame. (and I LOVE the old trilogy) This seriously is Peter Parker from the comics no doubt, Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone nail their respective role, as does Martin Sheen and Sally Field. I love that you got to see Aunt Mays pain, hurt and worry for Peter. This is definately one of the most emotional CBM's I've ever seen, if not the most emotional one. I teared up at least four or five times in this movie, some parts just really touch you. It's very character driven, which may put off the audience that is just looking for an all-action flick, and the cast carries it extremely well. I don't get the complaints about the Lizard, I really liked him as a villain though I think he could have been given more depth so you actually feel for Conners, and I didn't really like his voice. Though the CG, apart from a few shots, was great imo that's really my biggest nitpick, yeah a have a few others
such as him not creating the web-fluid on his own
but there little things that im willing to forgive.
Compared to the older trilogy, I think this beats it honestly, the only thing is that I'd say Doc Ock >Lizard.
Did RIM ever post his review?
I did like they basically bypassed all the
secret identity issues in this first one in order to get it out of the way. Gwen and May both know obviously so he at least has some assistance in that area with two people that can maintain his secret and be alibis.
Glad you enjoyed it man. I will say, when Ock is bad, he is still the tops. But overall, I enjoyed Connors/Lizard more.
Here's my review (in case some missed it )
So, just seen the film and here be my review
The Amazing Spider-Man = Amazing
So where to begin. Well, let me start by saying that I will only be talking THIS film. A comparative review will come later. But this will be as objectionable as possible.
The film does not feel like your conventional comic book film. In many ways it does sometimes feel more like a teen flick. But then you get a giant lizard and a man sticking to walls to remind you this is a comic book film. And what a film.
Thanks to it's leads, and some well written dialogue and direction, our two main characters Peter and Gwen come across as very believable teen loves. The build up in their relationship feels authentic (in movie terms) and is the solid foundation of the film. I have to say that I was rooting for each of the characters and was really immersed in their relationship and where it was going. They made you care for them.
The Villain... well, he isn't as bad as was made out. I do agree that he was a little wasted. But we see enough of him before he transforms to see that he is a good man. A good man who seems to be hiding something about Petes parents. And you can tell he is suffering the guilt of what may have happened to them. When he transforms, well, he wants to make the world better. It seems a sudden psychological transformation of the character. Maybe if it was given a bit more build up, it could have worked better. But considering the amount of things this film was trying to cover, some 'fast forwarding' seems needed. It makes sense that now that Connors has this ability and the chemical he uses may also alter his mindset too, which is hinted at after he's cured with how he acts 'normal'. Overall, I felt he did ok. The CGI... was ok at times, noticeable at others.
The score of this films was EXCELLENT. It brought an added dimension to the film. It would add more emotion to an already emotional moment in the film. The hero score really give that 'SPIDER-MAN' feeling. It wasn't your typical score either. A lot of subdued tracks in the film, as the film is not an all out action fest. Because the film is possibly the most dramatic CB film, the score fits perfectly. I truly hope Horner comes back for the sequel.
Spiderman was great in this. He was funny. His line of 'who's been a naughty lizard' at the school and when he was being bashed into walls when holding on to the tale 'don't... make... me... hurt... you...' was just classic spiderman. How he moved also impressed me. The school scene where he was webbing the lizard and crawling on him like a spider was wow.
Do I have any gripes with the film? Possibly. It's not perfect by any means and I do feel the pacing was a bit off at times. I also feel that Bens death, whilst it was emotional and I did feel the loss, seemed a little clunky.
My verdict: 9/10
This is an excellent film. Full of emotion and great performances. It has truly laid the groundwork for Marc Webb to let loose for the sequel. With no origin to tell, I'm even more excited to see what lies in store with TASM-2
I'm sure I have more to say. But that will come over time if anyone asks me anything or after I see it again
yea that's what im talkin bout, didn't bother me too much but i thought they could have done a better job
Just came back and I have to say the film is an ok movie it isn't as bad as Green Lantern but it isn't as great as Avengers I think that it is totally different from the Raimi films but it has a few similarities but it's Based off a comic book that's a reboot so I can let all the "it's just like Raimis Spiderman" slide so onto what I liked and didn't like
I really liked:
The actors all the actors did a great job Andrew Garfield was awesome as spiderman I loved his acting is the best thing abouth the movie All the other actors were awesome too
I also liked thee writing I felt some of the lines in the movie were great
I loved the action it was Very quick and i thought Webb did an excellent job showcasing spideys agility i mean the high school fight was amazing and I thought was the best action scene in the movie I also liked the finale at oscorp tower
What I didn't like:
The editing like many others have said the pacing for this movie was off I thought the first two acts were fine I just felt that the final act felt so rushed
The lizzard as the bad guy I mean I didnt feel like he was much of a threat and I found him to be really weak I liked his voice really menacing
I also didn't like the transition of how Peter became spidey I thought Raimi version handled that well
All on all I thought it was a great addition and is definitely worth watching definitely like the way this spidey is headed
it kinda got me too when i heard it. but the more i thought about it, i really respected it as an artistic decision. cant really formulate an opinion on it without having seen it fully in context though.
Hey Joe Kickass, you said that you hope that ASM isn't at CA:TFA's rating?
I don't understand that as I LOVED Captain America: TFA, and I liked it more than Thor and The Incredible Hulk. I would say it's on par with Iron Man 1.
But that's just me. Realize that opinions can be different, and no matter what the final score is, if you think the movie is good, it's a good movie (at least for you).
for sure, but everything else worked out fine. i was definately satisfied with Webb's version
Just come back from seeing this and I am buzzing. I thought it was a very, very good interpretation of the character.
Lets get things straight. This was a film that was about the character of Peter Parker. Yes, we did have the Lizard as the main villain but this was not about that character.
Andrew Garfield was excellent. He brings a new dimension to the character of Peter and I was astounded by the way he made Peter feel like a real person. He has problems that he learns to iron out during the film and that makes the character extremely relatable. Tobey was great but Andrew Garfield owned this role in my opinion.
The rest of the cast were great too. I loved the rooftop sequence between Gwen and Peter. It had a really beautiful moment in it and I really felt the characters emotions during that scene.
The cinematography is delicious. It has a very artistic flare to it and it made it feel like it had come from the pages of the comic book at times.
The score worked really well in this movie for me as well. It has more of a classical approach to it and I thought it complimented the film with a tremendous amount of spirit. There is a particular moment when Spidey has been captured by the police, that really pushes the score to the next level. In a weird way it kind of reminded me of the Superman theme.
The action I found to be refreshingly clear and exciting. The CGI was great all in all with the occasional hokey areas. I let this off though because some of the action sequences were creatively realised. Loved the school fight particularly. Great use of Spidey's abilities in that sequence.
The only flaws I could see were definitely Connors character development and Ratha's role being rather minute. I wonder whether there will be a director's cut? Also the pacing was a bit fast at times. Though to be fair they had a lot to go over in this movie. I think when the sequel is released it will have a much more consistent pace to it and have some time to develop the next main villain properly.
All in all this film gets a 9/10 from me and it is now personally my favourite Spider-Man and Marvel film. I preferred this over The Avengers and some of my friends who went to see it with me felt exactly the same way. I now look forward to the sequel and I believe if they can develop the characters even further and push the boundaries, we could have something unbelievably special.
Also just for the people who have not seen this yet. Pay no attention to the negative reviews, that attack it because it contains the origin again. This feels nothing like the original Raimi origin and should be appreciated as it's own entity. Yes we have the basics but that is not Raimi's origin, it's the source materials. Spider-Man is back and he is better than ever !
Ha thanks! Glad you enjoyed it too! yay! You have no idea how much the ol' Parker luck was on me today though (we almost got stuck in manchester with no way home), so I'm even more happy that the movie more than lived up to its name! I actually agree with pretty much all of that, except it being a teen flick, I know what you mean though, but I think it is very much an adult film as well that is about an orphan trying to find out where he came from/who he is.
Oh and I tomorow I will also have the most unbiased review ever EVER. In short, my mate who went to see this with me....not a spidey fan turned spidey fan after tonight, never seen any of the Raimi films (or anything Spider-Man related), so this was her first introduction to Spider-Man. She's written a review and emailed it to me already so I'll post it tomorow. (as I seriously need sleep right now, my head is banging)
edit: we both gave the movie the same rating. *high five*
too bad Harry wasn't around in this one
all the raimi haters loving this movie is giving me hope. but im a tougher nut than most id wager.
I enjoyed this flick a lot.
The whole cast was superior to Raimi's...Except for Bruce Campbell
Garfield is 100 times better than Tobey right from the start.
The action scenes were great and felt they all meant something to the plot. The suiteworked nicely on screen, but I hated how some shots were meant for 3D; bothered me at times.
The story held up nicely for most part, but there could have been a better introduction to Spider-Man; I felt they glossed over it. The same happened in Raimi's Spider-Man. Spider-Man just turns up in the new suit without a great entrance.
The film did feel like a damn good TV show for some reason, maybe because it concentrated on a lot of character than constant action. I wish the action was more spread out.
People have been negative towards the Lizard plot, but I dug it, except having the Connors family in it would have been much better with bringing the theme of family into play more. CGI was the Lizard was top-notch for most part too.
Overall: MUCH better than Spider-Man 3, showing you don't need big set pieces and pointless action to win audiences over. This flick goes back to basics and wins with charm. Could have done with the action spread out, but still, this film is unique and fun ride for Spider-Man fans.
Look forward to reading this review.
Also, yeah, the teen flick comment... at times it did feel like a teen flick. But it felt like an adult drama... and an action film... lol
But man, lucky you that you got home in time. I ended up in a macdonalds talking to a load of random people who had just seen it. We had a cracking gab about it
I walked out of the theater about three hours ago and I'm still buzzing on how great this movie really is. Don't get me wrong, I loved Sam Raimi's first two films with the character, but this was the first time that I truly felt like the character literally jumped out of the comics.
Andrew & Emma were perfect in their respective roles and perfect together. The rest of the cast was marvelous. Every scene was spot-on. I'm actually kind of shocked that the critical response is somewhere in the high 60s on Metacritic and low 70s on RT. But then again, this film is really aimed towards a younger audience, and a lot of the top critics simply might not "get" it. I even read one critic putting the movie down in my local paper for being "The Emo Spider-Man" - really? That's so 2006, no? And since when is emotion in a film something to sneer at? Sometimes I think critics forget what their jobs are - helping people decide where to spend their hard earned cash at the multiplex. I can't see anyone in the film's target demographic possibly being disappointed by it, but all the reviews do is ***** and moan about the fact that it's only been a decade since Spidey's first origin tale...
But anyway, I digress. The movie was stellar, I can't wait to see it again, and I hope it makes a boatload of money so I can be first in line for a sequel in 2014.