The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man (First Reactions: Critics, Fans) (Spoiler Alert) - Part 5

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[Eddie Brock]

Finally get a british superhero? Dumbasses...Batman is welsh, Superman is english.

Well, Superman isn't out yet.

 

[Joe_Kickass]

Webb's film is slow on plot, skimpy on character development. It takes 45 minutes for Peter's Uncle Ben (Martin Sheen) to be murdered, an hour till we see the spider suit. Then Peter goes from dorky to cocky without passing charm on the way. Brittle Gwen turns gooey the moment he turns up at school battered from fighting crime. So, chicks dig scars, right?

That's from the negative review, and it seems to go against the positive ones that said the character development was one of the highlights. But I get that this is his personal opinion, I'm just saying though. He also doesn't seem to understand that this movie is suppose to start slow. People are just so used to explosions off the get-go or 20 minute origin stories I guess.

 

[moviefan!]

I think this movie will have good reviews but OK box office.

So how much box office do you think it will do

For reference


Spider man 403 million

Spider man 2 373 million

Spider man 3 336 million


Also for reference


3 movies :


Mission impossible 4 209 million
X men first class 146 million
Batman begins 205 million

All coming off decent to terrible WOM previous movies


Now look at the box office for all 3 compared to the very first movie

Mission impossible 1 180 million
X men 1 157 million
Batman 1 251 million


The Amazing Spider-man 2 will need to be better than this one for it to make a financial impact for Sony.

 

[GuestStar2004]

how does everyone feel about romance in this film?

i mean if you look at other comic book movies you could say most the love interests are just there a one emotional talk mid film

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Regarding the Standard's negative review.

Director Marc Webb aims for a new realism, stripping away the brio of Sam Raimi's 2002 version with Tobey Maguire.

He also dispenses with much of the character and sass that always made this character fun. It's not Garfield's fault: he is a convincingly troubled, inarticulate Peter Parker, a springily athletic Spider-Man, and has awesome hair. His greatest enemy is the script. That, and the rather wearisome 3D.

Isn't this the first reviewer to say that Garfield is duller as Spider-man than Tobey Maguire and that the 3D was bad?

 

[Eggyman]

The action isn't as grand and operatic. It is more grounded like they said. But it is technical and clever and fast. The school fight is brilliant. Spidey cocoons Lizard in a web completely, crawling round him in loops, over his body, scurrying, very spider-like.

 

[moviefan!]

how does everyone feel about romance in this film?

i mean if you look at other comic book movies you could say most the love interests are just there a one emotional talk mid film

Hence the Twilight comparison

 

[Joe_Kickass]

Regarding the Standard's negative review.



Isn't this the first reviewer to say that Garfield is duller as Spider-man than Tobey Maguire and that the 3D was bad?

But, isn't this Spidey suppose to actually be...you know, a smart ass?

 

[UltimateWebhead]

The action isn't as grand and operatic. It is more grounded like they said. But it is technical and clever and fast. The school fight is brilliant. Spidey cocoons Lizard in a web completely, crawling round him in loops, over his body, scurrying, very spider-like.

That sounds awesome.

 

[Joe_Kickass]

The action isn't as grand and operatic. It is more grounded like they said. But it is technical and clever and fast. The school fight is brilliant. Spidey cocoons Lizard in a web completely, crawling round him in loops, over his body, scurrying, very spider-like.

So, is the character development "skimpy" and Andrew's Peter/Spider-Man "dull"? lol

 

[AbsractPo3tic]

The action isn't as grand and operatic. It is more grounded like they said. But it is technical and clever and fast. The school fight is brilliant. Spidey cocoons Lizard in a web completely, crawling round him in loops, over his body, scurrying, very spider-like.

 

[moviefan!]

But, isn't this Spidey suppose to actually be...you know, a smart ass?

Yeah the people who know and read the comics know this, but the GA might be turned off by it.

 

[Eggyman]

So, is the character development "skimpy" and Andrew's Peter/Spider-Man "dull"? lol

I don't think so.

 

[Eddie Brock]

That's from the negative review, and it seems to go against the positive ones that said the character development was one of the highlights. But I get that this is his personal opinion, I'm just saying though. He also doesn't seem to understand that this movie is suppose to start slow. People are just so used to explosions off the get-go or 20 minute origin stories I guess.

He goes from "dorky to cocky" because he has power for the first time in his life. How many times must Webb say it before people get it? I hate stupid reviewers.

I think this movie will have good reviews but OK box office.

So how much box office do you think it will do

I'm predicting somewhere in the realm of 225M, with a chance to do better if the reviews really come in as gold.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

That's from the negative review, and it seems to go against the positive ones that said the character development was one of the highlights. But I get that this is his personal opinion, I'm just saying though. He also doesn't seem to understand that this movie is suppose to sart slow. People are just so used to explosions off the get-go or 20 minute origin stories I guess.

Yeah his review is all over the place.

He complains that there's no character development then complains they spend too much time building up to Spider-man.

They he complains that Parker goes from dorky to cocky as if the story doesn't justify these changes. Obviously he doesn't know that Parker is more confident when he's first gains his powers and when he is Spider-man .

 

[Tony Stark]

Here's the problem and this has been said before. Despite the Raimi haters, Rami's films were generally well liked. The third was "meh" but it did make 336M dollars at the box office, which in today's money would probably be closer to 400M.

If audiences don't like the "new tone" of this film compared to the Raimi films, it will be rejected. Batman Begins didn't have that problem because Batman and Robin was a massive critical and financial failure, Spider-man 3, no matter what the most ardent haters of that film say was not that.

I think the movie should make 200M with 3D boost, but I don't think it will be well liked. I said this before any of these reviews came out, for this film to be successful it didn't have to be just better than Spider-man 3, it had to be significantly better than Spider-man 3. It's seeming like that's not going to be the case.

 

[Joe_Kickass]

I don't think so.

That negative reviewer sounds like he's just against the reboot in general.
That's what I'm afraid a lot of critics will do, use the fact that it's a reboot against it, and say things that contradict other reviewers so it'll "support" what they think.

 

[GuestStar2004]

i like how webb has tried to make spiderman very spider like, with the movement and pace

i think its something raimi might have taken for granted

 

[moviefan!]

Here's the problem and this has been said before. Despite the Raimi haters, Rami's films were generally well liked. The third was "meh" but it did make 336M dollars at the box office, which in today's money would probably be closer to 400M.

If audiences don't like the "new tone" of this film compared to the Raimi films, it will be rejected. Batman Begins didn't have that problem because Batman and Robin was a massive critical and financial failure, Spider-man 3, no matter what the most ardent haters of that film say was not that.

I think the movie should make 200M with 3D boost, but I don't think it will be well liked. I said this before any of these reviews came out, for this film to be successful it didn't have to be just better than Spider-man 3, it had to be significantly better than Spider-man 3. It's seeming like that's not going to be the case.

True. You need Massive WOM on Avengers level to remove the filth which was Spider-man 3, for GA to Accept cocky Spider-man and for them to accept new reboot 5 years after last

 

[Eddie Brock]

Here's the problem and this has been said before. Despite the Raimi haters, Rami's films were generally well liked. The third was "meh" but it did make 336M dollars at the box office, which in today's money would probably be closer to 400M.

If audiences don't like the "new tone" of this film compared to the Raimi films, it will be rejected. Batman Begins didn't have that problem because Batman and Robin was a massive critical and financial failure, Spider-man 3, no matter what the most ardent haters of that film say was not that.

I think the movie should make 200M with 3D boost, but I don't think it will be well liked. I said this before any of these reviews came out, for this film to be successful it didn't have to be just better than Spider-man 3, it had to be significantly better than Spider-man 3. It's seeming like that's not going to be the case.

... you got that out of these tweets/reviews? It seems pretty clear that the good opinions value TASM over Spider-Man 3. In fact, I seem to remember a few saying something along those lines. Phrases like "refreshing" are pretty telling.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I'm predicting somewhere in the realm of 225M, with a chance to do better if the reviews really come in as gold.

All ASM needs is 130 m the first 7 days to hit 250 m which I think it can achieve easily thanks to the holiday and being the first 3D Spider-man movie.

I hope it makes at least 275 m though.

 

[Eggyman]

That negative reviewer sounds like he's just against the reboot in general.
That's what I'm afraid a lot of critics will do, use the fact that it's a reboot against it, and say things that contradict other reviewers so it'll "support" what they think.

I wouldn't pay too much attention to it. It's getting a lot of good reviews. More than I expected and I enjoyed it.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I think this will be better than SM1 and SM3, but a little behind the greatness of SM2.

TASM2 has the opportunity to go much further.