Sequels The Amazing Spider-Man Sequel Villains Thread! - Part 1

[Venom'sDad]

I would like to see some lesser mob villains playing supporting roles.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Love the idea of Norman Osborn in a Kingpin type role. It's not far off from how he's often been written in the comics.

After reading Andrew Garfield's on how this interpretation of Peter's spider sense works http://www.superherohype.com/news/a...-on-how-spider-dna-affects-peter-parkerspidey I'm really interested to see how the visuals could potentially look like when facing particularly Electro,the Shocker and Mysterio. I guess we'll have to wait and see but I'm expecting something cool.

I agree about Norman Osborn.

Max Dillon gets turned into Electro,but can only stay in a puddle of electricity.Osborn gives him the symbiote suit that keeps him held together.The symbiote suit makes Electro evil,it makes him a villain.

No. Electro is not Venom, and should not be.

I would like to see some lesser mob villains playing supporting roles.

Agreed.

 

[Sonnypooni]

What about venom?

 

[Mary Jane Watson]

What about venom?

Nahh....there are many good villains that haven't used yet.

 

[Godzilla2014]

What about venom?

I think that Venom could be used for a great main villain for a film. The main drawback is Venom has a lot of back story to be told first.

 

[Godzilla2014]

If he is to be used, Venom needs to be very frightening in my opinion. Venom has a great ferocity to him, he will never stop trying to kill Spider-Man and he will stop at nothing to do so. He knows everything about Peter Parker, has his powers and more, and Peter's Spider-Sense doesn't work against him. He is Peter's dark side, his negative, and that should make him the most dangerous and threatening villain of all.

 

[Venom75]

The main drawback is Venom has a lot of back story to be told first.

That's the sucky thing about the character. If not for his huge backstory,he could easily be in ASM 2.
But....I at least hope Eddie Brock plays a role in the sequel.

 

[Godzilla2014]

That's the sucky thing about the character. If not for his huge backstory,he could easily be in ASM 2.
But....I at least hope Eddie Brock plays a role in the sequel.

Me too!

 

[Sebastos]

Electro or Mysterio could work, they should focus on a villain who hasn't been done before. Maybe even throw in some minor villains like Rhino or Shocker...But as for Green Goblin or Ock and etc., should they decide to have them be the villains again, save it for the third.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Electro or Mysterio could work, they should focus on a villain who hasn't been done before. Maybe even throw in some minor villains like Rhino or Shocker...But as for Green Goblin or Ock and etc., should they decide to have them be the villains again, save it for the third.

I don't think that many of the villains that haven't been used before could actually support a film on their own. What about multiple villains, with new incarnations of villains we have seen before along with villains we haven't?

 

[Sebastos]

That could work too I guess, they all have a history and there's plenty of source material for a different interpretation. Maybe have a villain like Mysterio or Electro work with Osborn (pre GG) and towards the end of the film we see him become the Green Goblin, leading up to a third film. Something along the lines of that.

 

[Godzilla2014]

That could work too I guess, they all have a history and there's plenty of source material for a different interpretation. Maybe have a villain like Mysterio or Electro work with Osborn (pre GG) and towards the end of the film we see him become the Green Goblin, leading up to a third film. Something along the lines of that.

I think that might work.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Adding to my previous statements on how I would like to see Venom portrayed, I think that Venom would be perfect villain for a cat-and-mouse thriller. Like Anton Chigurh from No Country For Old Men, Venom simply will not stop chasing Spider-Man, and will stop at nothing to kill him.

Venom is an awesome villain for raising tension. He's perfectly equipped for surprising and ambushing Spider-Man without warning. Peter Parker cannot let his guard down with Venom, he can hide anywhere, be anyone, and ferociously strike without warning, without mercy. Not even Peter's Spider-Sense can alert Peter of Venom's presence or attacks. This adds up to a whole lot of potential for tension and suspense.

 

[Venom'sDad]

I agree about the intensity that Venom has the potential to bring; however, giving the failure of the character in Spider-Man 3, a new approach is in order. They(Sony) can not approach this character in the usual conventional way. One reason why I suggest re-inventing the character and spinning it off, as soon as the Symbiote is introduced in this new incarnation of Spider-Man. Eddie, the Symbiote, and Venom himself, has to be giving the Green Goblin approach, as in establishing his history, background, motivation, mystery, suspense, thrilling, drama, stealth, and shadowy. One can not do that with the way this character is being portrayed today in the comics, cartoon, and film. The potential is vast, I can not stress this enough. Marvel have “No Clue, What So Ever” what to do or how to handle this character. Just look at the 25 year history of the character, and what they are still doing to it.

 

[Godzilla2014]

I agree about the intensity that Venom has the potential to bring; however, giving the failure of the character in Spider-Man 3, a new approach is in order. They(Sony) can not approach this character in the usual conventional way. One reason why I suggest re-inventing the character and spinning it off, as soon as the Symbiote is introduced in this new incarnation of Spider-Man. Eddie, the Symbiote, and Venom himself, has to be giving the Green Goblin approach, as in establishing his history, background, motivation, mystery, suspense, thrilling, drama, stealth, and shadowy. One can not do that with the way this character is being portrayed today in the comics, cartoon, and film. The potential is vast, I can not stress this enough. Marvel have “No Clue, What So Ever” what to do or how to handle this character. Just look at the 25 year history of the character, and what they are still doing to it.

I'm just speaking on how Venom should come across on screen in terms of characterization, how the audience should react to him, et cetera. I would recommend that the character be set up beforehand. My ideas would come into play after the set up and introduction.

 

[Venom'sDad]

I know, that's what I'm saying... after the failure of the character in Spider-Man 3, Sony can not follow the same usual conventional way. The GA is not going to be in awe of this same incarnation of the character.

 

[Godzilla2014]

I know, that's what I'm saying... after the failure of the character in Spider-Man 3, Sony can not follow the same usual conventional way.

What's wrong with Venom hunting Spider-Man as a wolf hunts a rabbit?

 

[Venom'sDad]

Nothing...but not using the current incarnation of the character. He has to be, dare I say again, "Re-Invented". Otherwise, it's the same ole same ole... that's tiresome and will not work.

Time for something fresh, new, and exciting... not just rehashing the same ole story for the sake of a dreamed up visual.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Nothing...but not using the current incarnation of the character. He has to be, dare I say again, "Re-Invented". Otherwise, it's the same ole same ole... that's tiresome and will not work.

Time for something fresh, new, and exciting... not just rehashing the same ole story for the sake of a dreamed up visual.

Well, the predatory Venom hasn't been seen on film, and has not been seen in comics for about 20 years.

 

[Godzilla2014]

In my proposal, Venom doesn't believe that he has to "protect the innocent from Spider-Man" as he often did in the 1990s. Venom still avoids killing those who he deems innocent, but here, who he deems "innocent" is mostly dependent on those he determines to have wronged him. It questionable if he truly feels remorse for murdering "innocents" whose deaths he decided were neessary. He is the ultimate hypocrite, a Catholic who, instead of turning the other cheek, celebrates the pain of his enemies with sadistic glee. What do you think?

 

[Venom'sDad]

Well, I nevered considered nor cared for this "Anti-Hero", "Protector of Innocence from Spider-Man" version of Venom in the first place. The incarnation of Venom should be just as he is, a killer and a parasite. No remorse, will kill or destroy any & everything that gets in his way. An intelligent being, stealthy, brutal, calculating, and adapting. To me, that's what make him dangerous and a threat.

 

[awesome232]

Well, I nevered considered nor cared for this "Anti-Hero", "Protector of Innocence from Spider-Man" version of Venom in the first place. The incarnation of Venom should be just as he is, a killer and a parasite. No remorse, will kill or destroy any & everything that gets in his way. An intelligent being, stealthy, brutal, calculating, and adapting. To me, that's what make him dangerous and a threat.

Exactly!

 

[Galactus123]

 

[Godzilla2014]

Well, I nevered considered nor cared for this "Anti-Hero", "Protector of Innocence from Spider-Man" version of Venom in the first place. The incarnation of Venom should be just as he is, a killer and a parasite. No remorse, will kill or destroy any & everything that gets in his way. An intelligent being, stealthy, brutal, calculating, and adapting. To me, that's what make him dangerous and a threat.

My thoughts exactly. The closest he should come to remorse should be regretting having to kill an "innocent", and even then, it should be sorry for necessity of the murder, not the murder itself.
He worked best as a monstrous version of Spider-Man who could drop in on Spider-Man without warning to kill him. He's possibly the most frightening of all Spider-Man's villains, in my opinion.

 

[Godzilla2014]