The Avengers The Avengers Critics Reviews Thread - Part 2

[thalidomide]

I agree the reactions on those negative RT reviews are sickening, but I don't see how that relates to you going in with less than high expectations.

Are you implying the reason the movie is getting so much acclaim is that it's everyone's childhood dream film? Because plenty of mainstream non-geek critics who haven't liked many superhero films before like or even love The Avengers. It's not just good because it's an Avengers movie. It's good because it's good.

I agree, my gf isn't a comic book fan like us but she really geeked out when she saw Hulk rampaging and throwing the Chitauris.

 

[TheVileOne]

If it makes the people who don't like the comments of the negative reviews feel any better, I got some pretty disgusting comments over my POSITIVE review.

 

[bonzob2000]

If it makes the people who don't like the comments of the negative reviews feel any better, I got some pretty disgusting comments over my POSITIVE review.

Ha, what did people say? Was it one of those "we don't think this is positive ENOUGH" type things?

 

[Oruku Saki]

I would have to say if you think Avengers is a bad movie; not a bad comic book movie, just a bad movie in general; then you should just stop watching movies altogether. This is the Exact type of film that theaters were invented for; dare I say the original "action/adventure" movies such as King Kong were aspiring to be the spectacle that The Avengers is made of through and through.

 

[TheVileOne]

Ha, what did people say? Was it one of those "we don't think this is positive ENOUGH" type things?

More like "fanboyish and unprofessional." And "Silvestri's score was ****."

 

[El Payaso]

I would have to say if you think Avengers is a bad movie; not a bad comic book movie, just a bad movie in general; then you should just stop watching movies altogether. This is the Exact type of film that theaters were invented for; dare I say the original "action/adventure" movies such as King Kong were aspiring to be the spectacle that The Avengers is made of through and through.

If I don't like Avengers I should give up watching movies. That's sounds about reasonable.

The original King Kong was great for its time, but later they found out characters and story could have more meat. Doesn't detract a movie of being good.

 

[TheVileOne]

The new King Kong failed to really work. Way overwrought. Sub characters had subplots in that movie. That's terrible.

 

[bonzob2000]

More like "fanboyish and unprofessional." And "Silvestri's score was ****."

Ouch. I love Silvestri's theme, the helicarrier track, and the track "A Promise." I don't really care about the rest, those three are good enough for me.

On a more positive note, Scott Weinberg, an excellent genre critic, published his review. It's a rave, it's on RT, and the average rating just got bumped up from an 8.1 to an 8.2. I can't believe the score continues to rise like this.

http://twitchfilm.com/reviews/2012/04/weinberg-reviews-the-avengers.php

 

[TheVileOne]

Well it's midnight on the west coast and 4/30 in pretty much the entire country. So that means USA embargo is now over and here is my review:

http://www.411mania.com/movies/film_reviews/235072

 

[El Payaso]

The new King Kong failed to really work. Way overwrought. Sub characters had subplots in that movie. That's terrible.

It totally failed, but not because characters had an arc but because they were s****y arcs. The big man and his young trainee, that came from nowhere and went nowhere too. The one-eyed sailor was suddenly friends with the Asian cook. Jack Driscoll was an acclaimed writer, god knows why he was working for a hack like Denham, gets to the island, becomes a professional velocirator-kicking Indiana Jones-like adventurer, had Ann to fall in love with him and she totally forgets him and falls in love with a giant gorilla.

 

[TheVileOne]

But I mean that's just one example, like The Avengers didn't need to be a three hour movie basically. King Kong did NOT need to be a three hour movie. If they cut out a lot of those go nowhere subplots it would've moved a lot better.

Now I mean sure it would've been cool if we got scenes with Peggy and all that but that would've taken away from the main story.

In Transformers 2, the Twins were absolutely pointless characters and literally almost no other character acknowledges or even reacts to their presence at all. Their one big action beat literally has no point and has no effect on the final battle. They were just pointless stupid characters that Michael Bay put in because he thought they were funny. Not to mention racist caricatures.

 

[El Payaso]

But I mean that's just one example, like The Avengers didn't need to be a three hour movie basically. King Kong did NOT need to be a three hour movie. If they cut out a lot of those go nowhere subplots it would've moved a lot better.

Now I mean sure it would've been cool if we got scenes with Peggy and all that but that would've taken away from the main story.

Oh, just bear in mind that Avengers needed like 4 previous movies. Now, with King Kong you can cut secondary arcs but you have to keep track of Kong, Ann and Jack. The story remains the same, but in Avengers, every superhero is important and cannot just be relegated.

 

[TheVileOne]

No one is really relegated. Black Widow I think had some of the strongest character scenes in the movie and its good because like I state in my review we never got this much out of her in Iron Man 2 and it's all essentially faithful to her portrayal in the comics as well.

 

[stet]

I was pretty sure Hawkeye was going to play a minor part so I left him of this site www.hero-me.com, but he was actually pretty cool.

Should I bring him back? I think he has a pretty similar personality to Daredevil.

 

[BigThor]

I hate when directors, writers, etc. take the "strong female" thing too far and give the female the most progression just because she's the only female.

So was this the case with BW in this film (it sure sounds like it)?

 

[Webfoot Hero]

I hate when directors, writers, etc. take the "strong female" thing too far and give the female the most progression just because she's the only female.

So was this the case with BW in this film (it sure sounds like it)?

Even though I've yet to see the movie (going on what's been posted here), I'd say her character seems to progress more just because she had one of least developed characters (Hawkeye probably even less) to begin the movie.

 

[Suzanne78]

Ouch. I love Silvestri's theme, the helicarrier track, and the track "A Promise." I don't really care about the rest, those three are good enough for me.

On a more positive note, Scott Weinberg, an excellent genre critic, published his review. It's a rave, it's on RT, and the average rating just got bumped up from an 8.1 to an 8.2. I can't believe the score continues to rise like this.

http://twitchfilm.com/reviews/2012/04/weinberg-reviews-the-avengers.php

Scott Weinberg is an utter HOOT on Twitter, and a writer who has a deep, abiding love for films. He's also a pretty unabashed fan of the Marvel movies and loved CA:TFA in particular last year. I knew by following his Twitter account that he loved The Avengers, but I'm glad he did a full write up.

 

[BigThor]

Even though I've yet to see the movie (going on what's been posted here), I'd say her character seems to progress more just because she had one of least developed characters (Hawkeye probably even less) to begin the movie.

Hmmmm good point

 

[Joker Brand X]

Review over at Modern Myth Media
Modern Myth Media: The Avengers Review

 

[Dave40]

Well it's midnight on the west coast and 4/30 in pretty much the entire country. So that means USA embargo is now over and here is my review:

http://www.411mania.com/movies/film_reviews/235072

What a great review!.Thanks!.

 

[Pond]

I hate when directors, writers, etc. take the "strong female" thing too far and give the female the most progression just because she's the only female.

So was this the case with BW in this film (it sure sounds like it)?

Whedon is an equalitarian, he doesnt do strong females, he does strong characters and he doesnt give a damn if they are men or women.

Buffy wasnt about how cool women are, even when the centrl character was an ass kicking woman. Men and women are treated as equals, and in a time where that wasnt the case, it was quite noteworthy and in some cases revolutionary.

In fact, contrary to popuilar believe, men usually are more present than women in his shows: in Firefly, of the 8 characters in the crew, 5 were men and 3 were women. On Angel there were alway 4-5 men and only two, three women. Counting the central characters in Angel season 5, there were 5 men and only one woman. Dollhouse had 4 men and 3 women. And while the leads of Dollhouse and Buffy wre women, the leads of Angel and Firefly were men. And they are all equally developed.

Its not about overcompensating or worshiping women: its about treating them as equals.

 

[BigThor]

Whedon is an equalitarian, he doesnt do strong females, he does strong characters and he doesnt give a damn if they are men or women.

Buffy wasnt about how cool women are, even when the centrl character was an ass kicking woman. Men and women are treated as equals, and in a time where that wasnt the case, it was quite noteworthy and in some cases revolutionary.

In fact, contrary to popuilar believe, men usually are more present than women in his shows: in Firefly, of the 8 characters in the crew, 5 were men and 3 were women. On Angel there were alway 4-5 men and only two, three women. Counting the central characters in Angel season 5, there were 5 men and only one woman. Dollhouse had 4 men and 3 women. And while the leads of Dollhouse and Buffy wre women, the leads of Angel and Firefly were men. And they are all equally developed.

Its not about overcompensating or worshiping women: its about treating them as equals.

I merely stated that I don't like when directors over compensate NOT "Whedon over compensates".

Try reading my post again

 

[First Avenger]

Well it's midnight on the west coast and 4/30 in pretty much the entire country. So that means USA embargo is now over and here is my review:

http://www.411mania.com/movies/film_reviews/235072

Man,I have the exact same opinion you have about Coulson! XD

 

[BigThor]

"Stark clearly likes to own the room; but thankfully, personalities like Thor and Cap have no problem matching up to Tony’s energy and do not back down. The results are exceptionally satisfying."

"Thor and Hulk causing some massive enemy destruction."


I LOVE these two excerpts!

 

[TheVileOne]

Man,I have the exact same opinion you have about Coulson! XD

I sat on writing the review for a while and then I felt like I had this profound revelation about Coulson which . . . I'm not sure if it even works but if you get it too . . . maybe it does .