The Flash The Barry Allen/The Flash Thread - Part 3

[MrsKent26]

I meant more like what he thinks the plans for The Flash on film should be.

I'm thinking BvS is probably going to introduce a new Barry and then he'll maybe get a movie after Justice League comes out

To be honest, I'm not sure how to answer that. I'm a bit confused about whether or not he'll be in the movies. I think he should be in JL for sure, but now they're featuring him on the small screen. I wonder if that isn't some sort of consolation prize. I hope not because the JL would be lacking without him, but if they aren't going to connect the TV show and movies, they may not want 2 Flashes in play.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I doubt we see any Flash movies for a while. If this Flash isn't in their cards for JL I doubt he shows up at all.

I don't believe that at all.

The Flash will certainly be in the Justice League film. Gustin or not. There will be a Flash.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

I don't want The Flash, WW, Batman, GL or anyone else in the MOS sequel, Batman Vs. Superman Vs. The Kitchen Sink. Just introduce these people in their own films, don't shoehorn them into Superman's sequel.

I feel the opposite. I'd love to see other characters briefly in BvS if it makes sense with the story, especially if they aren't getting solos before JL

 

[Charlie Boy]

The Flash has so much movie potential. I'm crazy excited for The Flash show, but he's going to have to be toned down a lot to work on a tv budget. I hope some day they really go crazy and explore the full potential of the character with a big budget movie. Something big like Flashpoint would lend itself well to the big screen.

Personally, I hate Flashpoint, and I don't think it would translate well for the unwashed masses, but that's just my two cents.

 

[Perfect Cell]

To be honest, I'm not sure how to answer that. I'm a bit confused about whether or not he'll be in the movies. I think he should be in JL for sure, but now they're featuring him on the small screen. I wonder if that isn't some sort of consolation prize. I hope not because the JL would be lacking without him, but if they aren't going to connect the TV show and movies, they may not want 2 Flashes in play.

This is generally true, but I think WB is moving away from that "no two live-action versions of a character at the same time" rule. They're going to have the young Bruce Wayne in Gotham at the same time as Affleck playing old, grizzled Batman, and unless they mean to connect them (which I would doubt), then we're going to have two separate continuities. And I think that's what'll happen with Flash. I think the TV show will exist in the "Arrowverse", while another Flash will be in the DCCU. And I think that might be the best way to go about it.

 

[Rorschach2012]

To be honest, I'm not sure how to answer that. I'm a bit confused about whether or not he'll be in the movies. I think he should be in JL for sure, but now they're featuring him on the small screen. I wonder if that isn't some sort of consolation prize. I hope not because the JL would be lacking without him, but if they aren't going to connect the TV show and movies, they may not want 2 Flashes in play.

I definitely think the Flash TV is a consolation prize. But more in the sense that there won't be a Flash solo movie. They will probably be a Flash that is introduced in BvS and who will feature in the Justice League, but the only live action solo Flash project will be the unrelated Flash tv show in the Arrow universe.

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

I've read most of this thread but may have missed some posts. Has anyone considered that this is his initial attempt at a costume and over the course of the first season he will refine it with say the white background to the Flash symbol and a better designed belt area?

This has a homemade feel to it, which would be more realistic and consistent with the average persons ability to make an elaborate costume. Maybe he'll get help creating a sleeker version later in the series. The Bat suit evolved in the Nolan films, so I don't see why this can't happen in the Flash TV series.

 

[Kevin Smith]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but that statement couldn't be any more false. Attitude is not just what defines someone as a human being, but it is also how they present themselves to the world. Every employer (as well as any other group or organization in need of people) will first analyze your attitude before they analyze anything else.

Your morality and facts are all that matter when it comes down to it. Attitude is emotion. I agree with your statement about attitude in terms of perspective but that is it. That someone is nice or mean or childish or mature is of no consequence to the truly objective mind when it comes to facts and morality.

 

[MrsKent26]

This is generally true, but I think WB is moving away from that "no two live-action versions of a character at the same time" rule. They're going to have the young Bruce Wayne in Gotham at the same time as Affleck playing old, grizzled Batman, and unless they mean to connect them (which I would doubt), then we're going to have two separate continuities. And I think that's what'll happen with Flash. I think the TV show will exist in the "Arrowverse", while another Flash will be in the DCCU. And I think that might be the best way to go about it.

I definitely think the Flash TV is a consolation prize. But more in the sense that there won't be a Flash solo movie. They will probably be a Flash that is introduced in BvS and who will feature in the Justice League, but the only live action solo Flash project will be the unrelated Flash tv show in the Arrow universe.

I'd be fine with that. I don't need a solo movie for everyone and having two Flashes doesn't bother me, but I want Flash in JL if they actually make JL.

 

[Paradox1]

I don't believe that at all.

The Flash will certainly be in the Justice League film. Gustin or not. There will be a Flash.

Dude I didn't believe I'd go two Avenger movies without Black Panther, Antman, or Wasp. Yet here we are on the brink of the Age of Ultron without them go figure.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Too many variables to know what their plan is.

For all we know a Justice League film (and Flash's big screen debut) won't come out until 2019, three years after BvS. The TV show might be done by then. Maybe it gets cancelled after 1 season. Maybe it doesn't even get picked up.

Maybe they don't plan to have Flash on the big screen at all (same with Arrow, Canary, Deathstroke, and any of the characters they have on TV), and that's why they made a Flash show. Who knows.

Or maybe we'll have two versions. Maybe they'll be extremely different (Wally West? Latino Flash? Older Flash?) Maybe they'll be similar. By the time Flash appears on the big screen, the show would have already solidified its fanbase anyways and no one will be 'confused'.

 

[Rorschach2012]

This is generally true, but I think WB is moving away from that "no two live-action versions of a character at the same time rule". They're going to have the young Bruce Wayne in Gotham at the same time as Affleck playing old, grizzled Batman, and unless they mean to connect them (which I would doubt), then we're going to have two separate continuities. And I think that's what'll happen with Flash. I think the TV show will exist in the "Arrowverse", while another Flash will be in the DCCU. And I think that might be the best way to go about it.

That's how i think it'll happen too. The Arrowverse can grow that way. I think it'd be cool to have tv versions of major characters in the Arrowverse, while the movies do their own thing. The Arrowverse could even have their own version of the Justice League. I don't see WW, Batman or Superman showing up on Arrow. But maybe they could have Arrow, Black Canary, The Flash, Aquaman and Martian Manhunter? If they could get the rights to Flash they could do Aquaman and MM

 

[Rorschach2012]

Too many variables to know what their plan is.

For all we know a Justice League film (and Flash's big screen debut) won't come out until 2019, three years after BvS.

The TV show might be done by then. Maybe it gets cancelled after 1 season. Who knows.

That isn't impossible. People think a Flash show is a sure thing. But i'm sure the show is going to be expensive if they want to do it right. It's going to have to catch on in a big way to stay on the air.

 

[Perfect Cell]

I'd be fine with that. I don't need a solo movie for everyone and having two Flashes doesn't bother me, but I want Flash in JL if they actually make JL.

If and when we do get a full-fledged Justice League movie, I would be incredibly surprised if the Flash is not included in the roster. I can't see them including Martian Manhunter or Aquaman or Cyborg or whomever ahead of the Flash, and without that, you'd just have a Justice League of Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman and Green Lantern. And Green Lantern being ahead of the Flash is really a subjective choice that could go either way (I'd lean towards the Flash). Realistically, the Flash is the most famous outside of the trinity, so his inclusion is a must.

 

[Human Torch]

Man,I can't possibly catch up on all the posts since last time I checked (But I gather people are getting huffy with those who are not acting as if the costume is the greatest thing since sliced bread,and bashing the -superior- 90's version to make their point.)

I saw the other pictures and the emblem has GOT to be changed to white at some point.Looks like Flash Gordon.Something isn't totally sitting well with me concerning the color/texture of the suit.But overall they're 75/80% there.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Man,I can't possibly catch up on all the posts since last time I checked (But I gather people are getting huffy with those who are not acting as if the costume is the greatest thing since sliced bread,and bashing the -superior- 90's version to make their point.)

I saw the other pictures and the emblem has GOT to be changed to white at some point.Looks like Flash Gordon.Something isn't totally sitting well with me concerning the color/texture of the suit.But overall they're 75/80% there.

Agreed on all counts

 

[MrsKent26]

If and when we do get a full-fledged Justice League movie, I would be incredibly surprised if the Flash is not included in the roster. I can't see them including Martian Manhunter or Aquaman or Cyborg or whomever ahead of the Flash, and without that, you'd just have a Justice League of Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman and Green Lantern. And Green Lantern being ahead of the Flash is really a subjective choice that could go either way (I'd lean towards the Flash). Realistically, the Flash is the most famous outside of the trinity, so his inclusion is a must.

I agree. My ideal JL roster would be Superman, Batman, WW, Flash, and GL.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I agree. My ideal JL roster would be Superman, Batman, WW, Flash, and GL.

Yeah that's the core group, but Aquaman and Martian Manhunter should also definitely be introduced at some point as well.

I'm thinking Aquaman will be on the team mainly based on this article
http://variety.com/2013/tv/news/dc-wants-aquaman-to-make-a-bigger-splash-1200883346/

And the Jason Momoa rumors

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Maybe this is completely unrelated, but GL and Flash were absent from the JL War cover (and back cover), even though GL is featured so heavily in the story.

or maybe it was just a design thing (with the Green color sticking out and the repetitiveness of Shazam/Flash's costumes).

 

[Perfect Cell]

Yeah, I would really like Aquaman on screen. I know he'd probably never get his own solo film, but I want to see an Aquaman that can restore the diginity of the character in the eyes of the general public. We all know he's badass, but it'd be nice if a broader audience could see that as well.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Yeah, I would really like Aquaman on screen. I know he'd probably never get his own solo film, but I want to see an Aquaman that can restore the diginity of the character in the eyes of the general public. We all know he's badass, but it'd be nice if a broader audience could see that as well.

Jason Momoa is going to do what you're talking about. Or he at least has the ability to do so.

And the fact that Flash and GL aren't on the cover of War is suspicious.

I really dislike the JL War lineup. Cyborg belongs on the Titans and Shazam shouldn't be on the team over MM or Aquaman

 

[MrsKent26]

Yeah that's the core group, but Aquaman and Martian Manhunter should also definitely be introduced at some point as well.

I'm thinking Aquaman will be on the team mainly based on this article
http://variety.com/2013/tv/news/dc-wants-aquaman-to-make-a-bigger-splash-1200883346/

And the Jason Momoa rumors

I have mixed feelings about Aquaman. They've tried really hard to make him badass, but he's still "meh" to me. And Jason Mamoa? Not into him at all.

Martian Manhunter isn't needed when Superman's around, IMO. Never been a big fan of him either.

Having said that, I'm not opposed to these characters and would be open to different interpretations of them.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Man,I can't possibly catch up on all the posts since last time I checked (But I gather people are getting huffy with those who are not acting as if the costume is the greatest thing since sliced bread,and bashing the -superior- 90's version to make their point.)

Not in the least. People are reacting to being called stupid and brainless and not true fans if they have no problem with the suit. So as close to opposite as what you posted as you could get.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I have mixed feelings about Aquaman. They've tried really hard to make him badass, but he's still "meh" to me. And Jason Mamoa? Not into him at all.

Martian Manhunter isn't needed when Superman's around, IMO. Never been a big fan of him either.

Having said that, I'm not opposed to these characters and would be open to different interpretations of them.

That's just wrong! MM can fly and has superstrength, but his most important abilities are his shapeshifting abilities and telepathy

 

[MrsKent26]

That's just wrong! MM can fly and has superstrength, but his most important abilities are his shapeshifting abilities and telepathy

Sorry! No offense to his fans. The shape-shifting and telepathy are too much, IMO. He doesn't even need the JL. I'd be fine if they encountered him, but don't need him in the core group.