The Flash The Barry Allen/The Flash Thread - Part 3

[antonydelfini]

For God's sake, can we change the conversation, please?

Here, let me start: What do you guys think the villains costumes will look like?

The Flash has the 3rd best rogues gallery in Marvel and DC, I'm excited to see them. Like the Flash's costume, their costumes might look grittier and less colorful.

 

[Mad Love]

You honestly think they wouldn't still design their own suit for the movie?

Exactly, if they want to, they'll make it work. I don't care either way as long as Flash does get to appear in a movie.

 

[antonydelfini]

I'm 100 percent fine if they say Arrow and the new Flash show is part of Snyder and Goyer's DC universe.

 

[DrRocket]

So, I sleep a couple of winks and this thread has descended into chaos

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

The suit would change for the movies undoubtedly, but unless Gustin/Amell/Cassidy etc all win the auditions for the films (against other film actors this time), then I don't want them to use the same actors on the big screen.

I'd want them to use the people who are the best picks for the roles.

Say what you want about Gadot, Affleck, and Eisenberg, but they beat out alllll other actors, not just the ones that the CW could afford.

 

[Boy Scout]

Did you support the idea before seeing the suit?

Not even a little bit.

 

[Kevin Smith]

Really!? A few examples please.

The first two Raimi films' Spidey suits, TASM2 Spidey suit, Hulk in Avengers, Iron Man mark 3 in the first Iron Man, Superman's suit in Superman the movie for its time...

Except comics do not have to drop things because they don't work with real life. Scripts do.

One fictitious script is equally as fake as another. And comics try to base themselves in reality as much as possible (or tried to anyway), that's how you got characters like Barry Allen and Hal Jordan and why they were as popular as they were due to the psuedo-science in the books, that's the whole point of the whole science fiction bit.

If something is perfect on paper in comics, real life is not a concern, the non comic reading audience is not a concern, it's good to go.

So only the people reading it in real life would be the concern then? Ok then...

Scripts, have all these concerns. The fact that you think real life is a non factor explains your viewpoint eloquently.

I never said or implied that, all I've said is that The Flash suit, the overall design of it, as it is in the comics, can work perfectly in live action, as can many other ideas in the comic books. There is less that needs to be changed with The Flash than people might think. I'm not an idiot, I have a good sense of judgment with what will and won't work in live action, I know what I'm talking about with this.

You believe the real world can be like comic books, which suggests you place the source material on a pedestal even over reality.

I don't believe that life is a comic book or comic books are more important than life but I do believe that some of the ideas and concepts presented in comic books can be taken into live action fictitious adaptations and work perfectly as they do in the books.

Which is why when people "disrespect" the source material, you feel free to insult them, because Flash is more important than the real people in this thread anyway. Flash is real, Flash is true, the posters here? They're just useless opinions.

As if you haven't ever insulted anyone on these boards for their opinions. Look I don't have any problem with anybody on these boards in real life and any human being is definitely more important to me than a comic book, I'd just like The Flash to maintain his look in the live action adaptations and see no reason why it needs to be radically changed. That's all this is about, not about me devaluing the whole world and having my priorities out of wack or whatever BS you just tried to project onto me here in some Dr Phil psychobabble manner. Gimme a break. And we are nothing but opinions and usernames and ideas on a message board in a way if you think about it... we may as well not be real to each other in a way. That's not what I believe but it's an interesting thought.

 

[Mad Love]

I was thinking it would be funny if they gave Captain Cold those shutter glasses hip kids like to wear.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

I'm willing to accept a design that's not the comics suit only if I see it and something clicks with me and I see it as an improvement, as superior. Let them have at it if they really think they have a better design, and if they come up with one, I say great, they should use it. But if it's not better then no, I don't think they should use it unless there's some sort of end goal and that's just part of the journey to it. IMO.

Why does it have to be a competition with the old suit? What's wrong with them doing something different now and then? Costume designers are artists, and I know if I was designing a superhero suit I'd have a few ideas I'd like to try out. As perfect as I think Flash's iconic costume is I think it's a bit of a shame artists haven't had as much opportunity to do their own thing and create more moments like this:

 

[Kevin Smith]

The Flash has the 3rd best rogues gallery in Marvel and DC, I'm excited to see them. Like the Flash's costume, their costumes might look grittier and less colorful.

Careful with that, that's just your opinion people will tell you...

Anyway I agree. I'm excited to see what they'll do with them on the show.

 

[Paradox1]

I concur. Can definately see Amell and Gustin alongside Cavill, Affleck and Gadot. Dont have a problem with it whatsoever.

Me neither I like them both and a fight between Afleck's Batman and this Arrow would be sensational.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Not even a little bit.

How do you think they should handle Flash on the big screen?

 

[Kevin Smith]

Why does it have to be a competition with the old suit? What's wrong with them doing something different now and then? Costume designers are artists, and I know if I was designing a superhero suit I'd have a few ideas I'd like to try out. As perfect as I think Flash's iconic costume is I think it's a bit of a shame artists haven't had as much opportunity to do their own thing and create more moments like this:

That particular suit was awesome and about time for Wally West, it was entirely appropriate they give him his own costume.... I think that's the suit he should have worn or one similar to it when he took over for Barry and certainly when Barry Allen returned...that was a step in the right direction, it looked good and should have been done sooner, IMO.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Careful with that, that's just your opinion people will tell you...

No one's going to complain about that statement or accuse him of being an extremist because he wasn't being rude about it.

 

[MrsKent26]

How do you think they should handle Flash on the big screen?

He was one of the few characters I liked in JL war. I wouldn't mind a portrayal like that.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Lovveeeeed the way they handled Flash's action scenes in WAR.

 

[Kevin Smith]

You are getting personal for no reason with people. Offline the way you are responding would start a shouting match or worse.

No matter how we slice it our attachements to these fictional characters in the end are not based insome kind of absolute rationallity or logic. These are things we are emotionally invested in. So your reaction to this all is valid... Calling others stupid for disagreeing with you is not. It's also really bad form. I get that you feel strongly but you don't seem to understand that you are not doing your view any favors acting this way.

A bright and objective person will be able to separate any pettiness in what I've said and look at what I'm saying instead of how I'm saying it and find merit in that if there's merit to be found in it.

 

[Rorschach2012]

He was one of the few characters I liked in JL war. I wouldn't mind a portrayal like that.

I meant more like what he thinks the plans for The Flash on film should be.

I'm thinking BvS is probably going to introduce a new Barry and then he'll maybe get a movie after Justice League comes out

 

[Charlie Boy]

How do you think they should handle Flash on the big screen?

Like Superman, only better.

 

[Kevin Smith]

As much I hate these type of threads, maybe there should be a costume thread, separate from this. I know costume threads tend to flame out like a supernova, but it'd be nice to remove it from the Barry Allen page, so we can discuss the character, and not just the outfit he wears.

Yeah I mean I don't see it being like this all the time, the suit DID just get its big reveal today so some of this is to be expected...the costume reveal is still a fresh thing so it's entirely appropriate for us to still be talking about it in here, IMO...

 

[Kevin Smith]

No one's going to complain about that statement or accuse him of being an extremist because he wasn't being rude about it.

Well I certainly hope not. So it's not what you say but how you say it. I'll try to keep that in mind from now on.

 

[Charlie Boy]

I don't want The Flash, WW, Batman, GL or anyone else in the MOS sequel, Batman Vs. Superman Vs. The Kitchen Sink. Just introduce these people in their own films, don't shoehorn them into Superman's sequel.

 

[Paradox1]

I meant more like what he thinks the plans for The Flash on film should be.

I'm thinking BvS is probably going to introduce a new Barry and then he'll maybe get a movie after Justice League comes out

I doubt we see any Flash movies for a while. If this Flash isn't in their cards for JL I doubt he shows up at all.

 

[Shikamaru]

A bright and objective person will be able to separate any pettiness in what I've said and look at what I'm saying instead of how I'm saying it and find merit in that if there's merit to be found in it.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but that statement couldn't be any more false. Attitude is not just what defines someone as a human being, but it is also how they present themselves to the world. Every employer (as well as any other group or organization in need of people) will first analyze your attitude before they analyze anything else.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Like Superman, only better.

The Flash has so much movie potential. I'm crazy excited for The Flash show, but he's going to have to be toned down a lot to work on a tv budget. I hope some day they really go crazy and explore the full potential of the character with a big budget movie. Something big like Flashpoint would lend itself well to the big screen.