The Daily Planet - Superman News and Speculation Thread (🚨TAG SPOILERS🚨)

[king666]

Final thoughts: I love the chest emblem and colors, but that's about it. I think the materials, coupled with the rough texture and lines make the suit look very militaristic.

The combination of trunks and high collar never really made sense to me. My impression is that the high collar was an attempt to modernize the classic suit. Adding the trunks back but keeping the high collar makes the suit look off (see: fortnite superman). It's neither here nor there; it doesn't look like the classic friendly Superman suit (because of the high collar) but it also doesn't look modern (because of the trunks).

 

[Invader Joker]

@flickchick85 What's the analysis on the eyebrows

 

[hopefuldreamer]

It's feeling quite hard to separately process two things - 1. The suit itself, and 2. The tone/narrative shown in this image.

I'm not loving the tone at all. It feels staged and jarring. If the window had just been an every day Metropolis daytime skyline, it would have worked better IMO.

I'm not loving the grimy smudges on the suit. And the sad face. Just... a weird choice for the first look?

Not loving the collar. Never been a fan... but I guess ill get used to it. Its already growing on me a bit after the initial shock and dissapointed feeling, because it was hard to distinguish between this and fan art.

That said, I do love the colours, the hair is perfect, and David looks good in it to me at least.

God twitters gonna suck isn't it...

 

[flickchick85]

@flickchick85 What's the analysis on the eyebrows

If those other eyebrows were for the clone, then this ain’t him!

 

[DKDetective]

Has there ever been a superhero film where people have not said “maybe the suit will evolve over the course of the film” upon the initial reveal?

Aside from Batman 89 I can’t think of one.

I'll admit I am in denial and holding out hope for that a bit. Part of what makes me think there is a chance is that he first shot we get of the this suit is heavily battle damaged. Given that the film was originally titled Legacy and is about Clark dealing with his competing heritages makes me wonder if there will be a moment where he replaces this Kryptonian suit with something that is a better balance of his two heritages.

Yes, I know it is crazy wishful thinking, but I must hope. The colours are great though.

 

[Gothamsknight]

Twitter is already crying about how much they prefer the Snyder suit. Ahh yes, the colorless bland Snyder suit.

 

[batman44]

Let's start with David's hair, which I love. I'm quite pleased that we have Superman's curl back and that it looks more natural.

Now the suit:
I like the colors
I think the emblem works well
I don't mind how the suit fits him and seeing all the folds and creases.
I dig the texture.
I dig the boots.
As of right now, I don't feel strongly one way or another about. the seams/ lines on the suit.
Not feeling the collar, I think Superman looks so much better with an open neckline.
I'm of two minds about the trunks. On the one hand, I'm glad to have them, on the other hand, I think this design would work better without them. High collars and trunks don't mesh for a close-to-classic Superman design imo.

 

[Bran The Man]

Maybe this suit is more Kryptonian than homemade. As if it might have belonged to Jor-El and Clark finds it in the Fortress.

 

[NotToday]

Thank goodness, this thread was getting annoying.

Calling it now: that's not the final suit.

 

[Primal Slayer]

I just text Gunn

 

[Superark]

I gotta be honest, this film has the entire DCU riding on it, and this image doesn't wow. ( not the suit itself, but the whole setting, him setting down, leaning, causing the material to be bulky, etc does it no favors )

Is this what we're really getting for a first reveal Of a 200 million dollar film that has everything riding on it? Really.

The whole image screams amateur.
I could think of a dozen settings off the top of my head that would have made this suit look a 100% better.

This image won't make or break the success of the film, but your overall point is spot on. Given the state of the DC on film and public perception, everything they need to do right now needs to "wow" the audience. You know what they say about first impressions being the most important.

This was a misstep. Everything about this image and suit feels off. I mean I keep looking at it and man, folks are right, that thing is really bulky. Just look at the opening of his sleeves.

It truly does feel like a Guardians of the Galaxy suit with a Superman aesthetic.

 

[DKDetective]

I’m also not commenting on what’s outside the window because I actually don’t think we’re getting this shot in the movie. I think the set had a green screen and they put something non-spoilery up there for the photo.

Gunn commented on Instagram that it is all in camera so perhaps not.

 

[flickchick85]

Twitter is already crying about how much they prefer the Snyder suit. Ahh yes, the colorless bland Snyder suit.

I just love how the basic concept of this image is one we couldn’t have gotten with the Snyder suit. I adore that, because it says so much about this approach. This is a guy in his apartment getting dressed for work, which it looks like it’s gonna be a stressful day of.

 

[Babillygunn]

@Lily Adler spends weeks posting rugby photos and no one notices. But James Gunn posts one little suit reveal and

 

[flickchick85]

Gunn commented on Instagram that it is all in camera so perhaps not.

Either way, it’s just for a promo shot for sure imo.

 

[Karelia]

Oh wow, I'm pretty shocked this is the first reveal. Not crazy about it, sadly. I expected his hair to look different too. I'm still excited for it, but I definitely was hoping for something different.

 

[GreenKToo]

Thank goodness, this thread was getting annoying.

Calling it now: that's not the final suit.

I tend to agree/hope.

 

[Invader Joker]

If those other eyebrows were for the clone, then this ain’t him!

So his eyebrows aren't lightened here?

 

[Invader Joker]

Thank goodness, this thread was getting annoying.

Calling it now: that's not the final suit.

Every single time there's a superhero suit people don't like upon a reveal people always go "It's not the final suit" and that is literally never the case.

 

[flickchick85]

Near perfection. If Gunn gave people something closer to this, the majority of fans would be overjoyed instead of the polarizing reaction we're seeing now. You'll never please everyone, but why go so hard down the different route when they make these style choices blows my mind.

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Because they’re not making fan service, which is what that entire godawful crossover was. They’re making James Gunn’s vision, which should be unique to him imo. If any of us had predicted exactly what the suit would be, THAT would be hugely disappointing honestly.

 

[jetage]

Well I knew it was a suit reveal when I saw how many pages had been added. I like the suit, I can live with it, and the first reveal of TH in Supergirl was dreadful, but better when we saw him outside and standing. So.

I didn't know who David was before coming to this site, and others did. No one who has played Superman was not good looking, but HOLY MOLY does David look incredible, and a major win with the hair. He does look like Superman, off of the comics. I really want to see pictures from them outside, and soon. And of him as Clark, and and and. But thanks for this Mr Gunn

 

[RuralHawk]

The gatekeeping by the Snyder fans is pathetic.

 

[flickchick85]

So his eyebrows aren't lightened here?

I honestly can’t tell with the lighting tbh. But they don’t look unnatural like they did in the set pics. Like, I can see some brown there at least. Not sure now that I’ve zoomed in though.

 

[Invader Joker]

Obviously anything can happen at this point, but...
The thing is that Gunn has talked quite a bit about how the reason he didn't do Superman initially is because he didn't have a way to "present a new version" of the character yet which to me kinda implied that he doesn't want to do just like, a by the numbers completely classic Superman movie in the way that everybody seems to have been expecting after MoS. And even now he's talked about putting his own spin and doing something new while respecting what came before and between that and the fact that he kept talking about the trunks as this complicated design element does lead me to think he's doing something very idiosyncratic.

If he was dead set on "we're just going the classic route, a total throwback" I think the trunks would've been there day one.

And , if you think about the Superman costumes that came before, we already had a homemade-looking straight from the comics look with Reeve, then a version of that more padded and with rougher textures with Brandon, then just the alien bodysuit look with Cavill and Hoechlin, and the Golden Age take with Hoechlin as well. So the only way you can really do something to put your stamp on it at this point is to do something radically different. Maybe it'll be one design element that's very different than what's come before, maybe it'll be the whole thing, but the way he's talked about it makes me think there'll be /something/ that'll make it very clear this is Gunn's Superman. Not the Golden Age Superman, not the Christopher Reeve one, not the mainline comics Superman, not Rebirth, not New 52, but Gunn's Superman.

He's talked a lot about presenting something new while honoring the past and being true to the character. Well, the casting has already honored the past and been true to the character. The "something new" shoe has to drop at some point. And it wouldn't surprise me if the suit is the reflection of it.

I definitely think it'll at least have the very basic elements intact. Like you said it's definitely gonna be blue, have a S symbol on the chest, have a red cape and probably have boots. I don't think he'd ever do something that'd be straight up unrecognizable as a Superman suit. But beyond that anything's fair game, and there are a ton of things he could do to make it very distinct. What those things are I have no idea though. I'm just saying people, especially in this forum, have seemingly been expecting something mega classical and I don't think that's guaranteed. At all.

I mean, for as many comic accurate designs he's done, he also changed Adam Warlock's design from this:

To this:

So he's not afraid to make big changes if he sees a reason to do so or if he thinks something looks cooler. I doubt the change for the Superman suit would be as radical, but you get the idea.

I was definitely right on the general philosophy of what I thought he was gonna do. I really think people took the "hyper classical" thing for granted.

 

[batman44]

Now I'm really curious about how Guy Gardner, Hawkgirl, Metamorpho, and Mr. Terrific will look.