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[Milk Tray Guy]

Deadline reported it had a budget of $104 million, not to mention whatever went into the marketing budget (even with it being lackluster). I don't see them breaking even, nevermind making a profit.

They may well not. It may turn out to be the bomb of the century. It just seems early to condemn it when it's just come out, opened at #1, and had Hilary to deal with. There'll be time enough for everybody to pile on.

 

[Invader Joker]

It may well bomb. But it seems a little early to say that it is already.

Even if it had insane 3x legs and made 130 million it'd still be a flop.

 

[Venom 1988]

They may well not. It may turn out to be the bomb of the century. It just seems early to condemn it when it's just come out, opened at #1, and had Hilary to deal with. There'll be time enough for everybody to pile on.

It (barely) opened at number 1 because it's only real competition was a movie that had been out for a month. Even with strong legs and word of mouth, it would be lucky to to break even.

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

Even if it had insane 3x legs and made 130 million it'd still be a flop.

I'm not saying it won't bomb, I'm saying it hasn't yet.

 

[Lily Adler]

Let's be real....it'll bomb. It'll likely make $60-70mill during its run sadly.

But it'll likely be a smaller bomb compared to the others. Also deserves to at least break even but it has to many factors working against it

And Zaslav is one of the biggest enemies to both unions now and has to keep spinning all these box office bombs as a good thing in earnings reports.

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

It (barely) opened at number 1 because it's only real competition was a movie that had been out for a month. Even with strong legs and word of mouth, it would be lucky to to break even.

That may all be true. I still say it's early to say that is has bombed.

 

[FunkMiller]

I'm not saying it won't bomb, I'm saying it hasn't yet.

Well, it's very low opening weekend is the best indicator it's a bomb, and that's been confirmed as $25 million domestic. It's not going to have a decent multiplier, because no DCEU films have had for a very, very long time. Total budget of 104 million plus at least half as much again for marketing, means it would have to clear a good 250 million minimum to break even. The Flash barely crawled over that with an opening weekend 55% higher.

By any sensible metric, Blue Beetle is a bomb. Likely to struggle clearing 100 million, let alone 200.

 

[B]

Blue Beetle hardly has any showings at my local cinema(s), most seem to only run 2 or 3 times a day which is very low, usually the sort of thing films with low hype tend to get.

I've also seen next to no marketing for the film either on TV or even online, if it wasn't for the fact I actually follow the genre, I probably wouldn't even know the film was happening.

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

Perhaps it's a matter of terminology. For me a bomb is a movie that has bombed. Not a movie that in all likelihood will bomb.

 

[kguillou]

@Milk Tray Guy I admire your positivity, my dude, and I really liked the movie....but this WILL bomb. Badly. It is all but a certainty. It made $18million internationally. That is a catastrophe. The international numbers are usually what save movies like this. There is a very high likelihood that this wont even reach $100M worldwide.

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

@Milk Tray Guy I admire your positivity, my dude, and I really liked the movie....but this WILL bomb. Badly. It is all but a certainty. It made $18million internationally. That is a catastrophe. The international numbers are usually what save movies like this. There is a very high likelihood that this wont even reach $100M worldwide.

I'm obviously not explaining myself well here I'm not being positive about the movie. I'm not saying that I think it will do well. You say it WILL bomb, and I believe that may well be the case. I don't dispute it. There's a very good chance that it could sink faster than the Titanic, and that WB execs will be banned forever from even saying the words 'Blue Beetle' in the board room, on pain of getting a slap. What I'm saying is that when the movie hasn't even been out a week, opened at #1, and had to contend with Hilary, saying it already has bombed seems unfairly premature. Saying it will bomb - and hard - may well be true. It just seems early to pile on the thing now.

 

[dhandler01]

Is it actually 'bombing'? My understanding was it made $25.4 million opening weekend, lower than expected but still enough for it to open at number one. And it's widely thought that total was heavily impacted by storm Hilary.

Not a Blue Beetle fanboy (do they even exist?), but it seems a little early to say it's a bomb.

I love Blue Beetle cause those comics were great... should have stayed on Max though. I will see it when I'm back from vacation though.

 

[dhandler01]

@Milk Tray Guy I admire your positivity, my dude, and I really liked the movie....but this WILL bomb. Badly. It is all but a certainty. It made $18million internationally. That is a catastrophe. The international numbers are usually what save movies like this. There is a very high likelihood that this wont even reach $100M worldwide.

To be fair, it wasn't a full open internationally if boxofficemojo is to be believed. Only 2 Latin American Countries (Mexico and Brazil) and some Asian ones. It shows no European numbers.

If that is true there is money still to be made. Not saying that is legit or it will make said money but who knows. I remember Suicide Squad getting late legs from nowhere so anything is possible.

The reviews seemed decent at least.

 

[kguillou]

Hmm did it release in Europe? Or is that still to come? I assume its not getting China either right?

 

[dhandler01]

Hmm did it release in Europe? Or is that still to come? I assume its not getting China either right?

No idea...though it seems like something China would be fine with but what do I know.

 

[J.Drangal]

Hmm did it release in Europe? Or is that still to come? I assume its not getting China either right?

It's out in France.

With a critical rating of 2.2/5 and a public rating of 2.9/5, the film opened with lower figures than Shazam 2, but slightly higher than The Suicide Squad.
For reference, these latter two, along with The Flash, respectively did less than a million entries in the country during their runs. Which is kind of terrible.

DCEU properties are virtually dead here.

 

[Bayne]

It's playing here in the Netherlands, too. No idea how its doing, but its available.

 

[super85]

Its out in the nordic/scandinavian countries too. At least here.

 

[Predator jp]

it looks like BB will be the first DC movie that is skipping Japan all together. wierd.

 

[Detective Conan]

 

[J.Drangal]

...

I've heard that Superman: Legacy takes place before Superman's death.

 

[Detective Conan]

Good article about Richard Newby about the state of the franchise and what Gunn’s new DCU needs to do to win audiences over.
https://***********/THR/status/1695128413747679256

 

[OrbOfConfusion]

Good article about Richard Newby about the state of the franchise and what Gunn’s new DCU needs to do to win audiences over.

This here:

That means offering consistency and not changing directions every time some critics and certain segments of fandom become blinded by nostalgia or throw tantrums when the story isn’t told the way they wanted it to be.

He does realize that this is Warners, right? The studio makes an immediate U-turn every time a DC film isn't well-received by the general audience or they try to mold it to cast as wide a net of moviegoers as possible. Changing directors when critics became blinded by nostalgia is what gave us Justice League 2017 in the first place, and I see no evidence that WB wouldn't do the same thing. And yes, I recognize he talked about JL 2017 in his article.

 

[emielaen]

DC Studios is its own studio now, so we'll see how all that post-film reactionary **** goes

I think we may be underestimating the leeway he might have here though. Not to say he'll be a-okay if Legacy loses a lot of money or some ****, but I don't think it has to rewrite blockbuster filmmaking history, or have a historic opening weekend to keep the DCU going even pass CC and Legacy like some seem to wanna believe

 

[Frodo]

While they'll be fans who are skeptical going into SL, if Gunn produces a great film that connects with the GA, critics, and fans alike, that will go a long way into easing alot of fan concerns.

At this point , we have fans who think Gunn will do a great job, fans who are skeptical, fans who are in wait and see mode, and fans who are ambivalent

The needle isn't gonna move in terms of changing perceptions about the overall quality and state of WB's DCU based films ,until there's an actual film to point to, and until that film ,impresses most people beyond just die hard fans.

It doesn't need to be a Billion dollar hit with a 95 percent RT score, but it's gonna have to at least go over well with general audiences.