The Defenders The Defenders Discussion Thread (NO SPOILER TAGS NECESSARY!)

[Spider-Aziz]

The biggest mystery is who took Matt out of the ground, and how did they leave that place after the elevator break, and from beneath all that rubble.

 

[TheVileOne]

The biggest mystery is who took Matt out of the ground, and how did they leave that place after the elevator break, and from beneath all that rubble.

Help from Asgardians?

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Help from Asgardians?

I'd like to see that happen.

 

[smallville fan]

I know usually we aren't supposed to care where the rest of the MCU heroes are when watching the Netflix shows but with regards to The Defenders show and events in it I have to ask, where on Earth was Spider-Man during the NYC Earthquake? For all the talk of staying on the ground, he really should be there when it was shaking.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

I know this is dangerous territory since the homecoming timeline fumble, but i think Daredevil S1 through Defenders all take place before Peter got his Spidey powers.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

That's one thing I like about keeping the Netflix stuff away from the movies.

 

[wampa1]

where on Earth was Spider-Man during the NYC Earthquake?

Queens.

 

[wampa1]

I'm actually kinda glad Danny didn't get a suit. Looking at loads of cosplay just proves that mask is REALLY hard to pull off in real life.

It looks fine on DD in Season One. Just make a dirty yellow/brown as opposed to bright yellow and it;s fine.

 

[Flint Marko]

I'm actually kind of surprised to see this receive such a relatively tepid reception. I think this is easily one of the strongest Marvel/Netflix series yet up there with the first seasons of DD and JJ.

 

[smallville fan]

I know this is dangerous territory since the homecoming timeline fumble, but i think Daredevil S1 through Defenders all take place before Peter got his Spidey powers.

*sighs* Marvel should really release an official canon timeline like Star Wars.

Queens.

He would still be able to swing into other parts of New York.

 

[Nathan]

One of the reasons it's not as high up as DD Season 1 for me, is its lack of any decent villains, and that basically the entire Hand has been reduced to goons in suits and thugs in jackets.

 

[Hotwire]

It looks fine on DD in Season One. Just make a dirty yellow/brown as opposed to bright yellow and it;s fine.

No eyes on Daredevil. That makes all the difference.

 

[Iceman]

I'm actually kind of surprised to see this receive such a relatively tepid reception. I think this is easily one of the strongest Marvel/Netflix series yet up there with the first seasons of DD and JJ.

I think maybe because it was built up to be more, like a huge event, and is more like just a good TV show. I really enjoyed it and will be rewatching it a fair few times but I don't think it's a must see for non CBM fans in the way that Game of Thrones is for many non-fantasy fans for eg.

 

[javonstokess]

I'm actually kind of surprised to see this receive such a relatively tepid reception. I think this is easily one of the strongest Marvel/Netflix series yet up there with the first seasons of DD and JJ.

Totally agree. When my only "complaint" is they didn't put a bandana mask on one of the character, then that's a huge win.

 

[Set]

I have to ask, where on Earth was Spider-Man during the NYC Earthquake?

Field trip to DC, perhaps?

 

[javonstokess]

Spider-man was busy. Moving on...

 

[wampa1]

*sighs* Marvel should really release an official canon timeline like Star Wars.

He would still be able to swing into other parts of New York.

Queens to Hell's Kitchen? Not in the 30 or so seconds that the earthquake lasted for. Besides, why should he? To anyone not literally watching The Defenders TV show it was a minor earthquake. Emergency Services still exist in the MCU.

Also, pretty sure this is taking place before Homecoming?

 

[samsnee]

I'm actually kind of surprised to see this receive such a relatively tepid reception. I think this is easily one of the strongest Marvel/Netflix series yet up there with the first seasons of DD and JJ.

I think part of it is that it feels like "more of the same". I get this is a tv budget, but when Avengers finally came out, the stakes and visuals felt worth it.

Here, we have the Hand (again), and more ninja fights. How many times can we watch flipping and kicking and punching. It's certainly lost a certain level of novelty. I think the problem is that everyone has the same-y powers. Super-strength, punching, and kicking.

Seriously, I never want to watch another episode of the Hand again.

 

[Tony Stark]

I'm actually kind of surprised to see this receive such a relatively tepid reception. I think this is easily one of the strongest Marvel/Netflix series yet up there with the first seasons of DD and JJ.

Agreed. This was just extremely well done and it's a huge step up from what was a very shaky effort in Iron Fist. Not that Iron Fist was terrible, but the writing was all over the place and unfocused, and not a very clear progression for the character.

 

[javonstokess]

I think part of it is that it feels like "more of the same". I get this is a tv budget, but when Avengers finally came out, the stakes and visuals felt worth it.

Here, we have the Hand (again), and more ninja fights. How many times can we watch flipping and kicking and punching. It's certainly lost a certain level of novelty. I think the problem is that everyone has the same-y powers. Super-strength, punching, and kicking.

Seriously, I never want to watch another episode of the Hand again.

Too be fair, they've been building the Hand, Hydra-style, since the Netflix shows have started. They had to have the payoff.

I agree, I hope the Hand is done, but you never know. They are a perennial adversary to DD and now, seemingly, IF.

 

[Loki882]

The problem that at no point has The Hand felt interesting or truly threatening. HYDRA did. But The Hand, for a global criminal organization made up of mystical death-defying ninjas, they feel really small and dull.

And their leaders were nothing. So that undercut the show a lot right away.

 

[KevTravels]

I'm not familiar with NYC at all. I took a flight to JFK years ago and got the train to the Bus station.

But how far is Hell's Kitchen from Harlem? and where does Iron Fist's show take place and Jessica Jones? are they all in the same borough?

 

[Loki882]

Jessica Jones takes place in Hell's Kitchen if I remember correctly. And Iron Fist doesn't really have a set location, it bounces around more than the others.

 

[Mjölnir]

He would still be able to swing into other parts of New York.

Why would he? How does Spider-Man stop earthquakes? There was nothing to indicate that it was anything but an earthquake to anyone that wasn't aware of the Hand, and there weren't even any large consequences that would require a superhero in the aftermath. Probably just some extra activity in the ER's.

The only big thing that could logically draw his attention was the collapsing building, which was the end of the climax and we wouldn't see him.

 

[javonstokess]

The problem that at no point has The Hand felt interesting or truly threatening. HYDRA did. But The Hand, for a global criminal organization made up of mystical death-defying ninjas, they feel really small and dull.

And their leaders were nothing. So that undercut the show a lot right away.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if that had more to due with budget constraints than anything.