The FFINO ZONE - Part 4

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[ThePhantasm]

FFINO... the haters were right!

 

[fixxxer]

I got thread-jacked! Here's what I said one post before Mr. Thread Manager came in and schooled me.

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There is zero chance a sequel goes forward. I think the cast and studio would sue/counter-sue each other into oblivion if they even think of moving forward with a sequel. The press would flay everyone involved.

Worst case scenario: Fox sits on the property for another 7 years and stupidly hopes that everyone's forgotten about their first three attempts come 2022.

Best case scenario: Fox and Disney have already reached a deal, with Disney getting back the FF rights package and Fox getting the green light to produce TV shows based on their X-Men universe. Obviously such a deal would not be announced immediately since it would open Fox up to even more embarrassment and ridicule. Fox announces an X-Men TV show in next few months. Feige announces FF as Phase 4's flagship in a couple of years. Bizarrely, this scenario actually seems semi-plausible to me as of now.

 

[Kanon]

Best case scenario: Fox and Disney have already reached a deal, with Disney getting back the FF rights package and Fox getting the green light to produce TV shows based on their X-Men universe. Obviously such a deal would not be announced immediately since it would open Fox up to even more embarrassment and ridicule. Fox announces an X-Men TV show in next few months. Feige announces FF as Phase 4's flagship in a couple of years. Bizarrely, this scenario actually seems semi-plausible to me as of now.

It's reasonable. And Marvel/Disney could wait to announce the new FF to avoid directing too much attention (mostly sensationalist at this moment) to a property that won't see a movie in 5 years.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I got thread-jacked! Here's what I said one post before Mr. Thread Manager came in and schooled me.

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There is zero chance a sequel goes forward. I think the cast and studio would sue/counter-sue each other into oblivion if they even think of moving forward with a sequel. The press would flay everyone involved.

Worst case scenario: Fox sits on the property for another 7 years and stupidly hopes that everyone's forgotten about their first three attempts come 2022.

Best case scenario: Fox and Disney have already reached a deal, with Disney getting back the FF rights package and Fox getting the green light to produce TV shows based on their X-Men universe. Obviously such a deal would not be announced immediately since it would open Fox up to even more embarrassment and ridicule. Fox announces an X-Men TV show in next few months. Feige announces FF as Phase 4's flagship in a couple of years. Bizarrely, this scenario actually seems semi-plausible to me as of now.

I believe you're right. And because you're right, I have no real concern that Fox will mangle another effort.

I would be willing to bet that we'll have something official within the next 2 years, but because the thought of another Fox effort is horrifying, I'd like something official sooner rather than later.

 

[Dasher10]

We can only hope. Partially because I really like the FF and want see them succeed in the MCU and partially because I really like X-Factor and Alpha Flight and feel like both of those series have potential. I'd even change New Mutants into a TV show.

New Mutants would be on Fox since it would be a teen drama. X-Factor would be more like X-Files meets Fringe meets Heroes and would appeal to an older audience so it would be on FX. FXX would get Alpha Flight since it's the most niche and an X-Men show would help to sell the network to cable providers and make customers want to order the station.

Fantastic Four would open up the Negative Zone to the MCU with all the cool stuff that comes with it as well as Doctor Doom who could also be an enemy to Scarlet Witch, Doctor Strange, Iron Man and Black Panther. That and Spider-Man and Human Torch together on the big screen as well as Reed Richards and Tony Stark, Sue Richards and Namor and Ben Grimm and Bruce Banner.

 

[starscream22]

Looks like Millar had another case of "foot-n-mouth-itis" lately.

When asked about F4's future he says this:

“I think everything’s open to discussion. No decision I think has been made on anything yet like that. There’s chats everyone’s going to have on the phone at some point, but the Marvel brand is such a powerful brand. Marvel doesn’t always work out great — Thor 2 didn’t work out especially well, Iron Man 2 didn’t work. But then Iron Man 3 comes along and it’s great. These things can be uneven sometimes. Avengers 2 is nowhere near as good as Avengers 1.”

.....Why throw Marvel under the bus as if either of those films are as bad as 4stic. H3ll both of them have better Domestic numbers than 4stic has WW....

Didn't work out??? Both IM and Thor either have had or will have a sequel Following those films. And as for as quality goes let's compare Fox's worse to Marvels...

MCU:
Iron Man 2: 72%
Thor: The Dark World: 66%
The Incredible Hulk: 67%

FOX:
X-MEN ORIGINS - WOLVERINE: 38%
ELEKTRA: 10%
Fant4stic: 9%

So what is Millar talking about?

 

[jaymes_e06]

Soo.... comparing movies that made billions of dollars to ones that made 37 dollars collectively at the box office. Does he ever ****?

 

[First Avenger]

He's a joke.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I don't get his comparisons either and I don't even like Iron Man 2 and Thor 2. No doubt those films were hits and that their reception was a million times better than Fantastic Four though. Fantastic Four should only be compared to Catwoman, Elektra and Green Lantern. Money losers that damn near everybody hated.

 

[Dark Raven]

Well he has to spin it somehow even if it means grasping at straws.

 

[Flint Marko]

Pathetic. FFINO would kill to have been received half as well of every film he just cited.

 

[Dark Raven]

Probably would've killed to have had Green Lantern or Catwoman numbers.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It's grossed more than Catwoman worldwide and less than Green Lantern. I didn't know that a semi well know big budget comicbook film could gross less than 200 mil worldwide in 2015 but here we are.

 

[justanotherguy]

It's simply Millar's turn to say something anit-MS/pro FM.

If Feige offered him a job he would jump at it.

BTW, listened to Kevin Smith on the public reaction to F4 and he said "they ought to beg Brad Bird to the F4"

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Brad Bird turned down Star Wars to direct the disastrous flop Tomorrowland. He's not going to touch a tainted property like Fantastic Four with a ten foot pole, no director of his stature will.

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

Millar is certainly not anti-MS, but he's connected to Fox at the moment.

 

[RAE072]

I got thread-jacked! Here's what I said one post before Mr. Thread Manager came in and schooled me.

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There is zero chance a sequel goes forward. I think the cast and studio would sue/counter-sue each other into oblivion if they even think of moving forward with a sequel. The press would flay everyone involved.

Worst case scenario: Fox sits on the property for another 7 years and stupidly hopes that everyone's forgotten about their first three attempts come 2022.

Best case scenario: Fox and Disney have already reached a deal, with Disney getting back the FF rights package and Fox getting the green light to produce TV shows based on their X-Men universe. Obviously such a deal would not be announced immediately since it would open Fox up to even more embarrassment and ridicule. Fox announces an X-Men TV show in next few months. Feige announces FF as Phase 4's flagship in a couple of years. Bizarrely, this scenario actually seems semi-plausible to me as of now.

Been saying that for months.

This is the only course of action that gives EVERYBODY(studios and fans) what they want, lets FOX save a little face, and everybody is happy.

If FOX doesn't sign off on something like this, then literally everybody will know they are dangerous lunatics.

 

[Farren]

Been saying that for months.

This is the only course of action that gives EVERYBODY(studios and fans) what they want, lets FOX save a little face, and everybody is happy.

If FOX doesn't sign off on something like this, then literally everybody will know they are dangerous lunatics.

Yeah if I were an investor and Fox didn't take that deal I think I'd want some sort of explanation.

 

[Jason Kane]

Looks like Millar had another case of "foot-n-mouth-itis" lately.

When asked about F4's future he says this:



.....Why throw Marvel under the bus as if either of those films are as bad as 4stic. H3ll both of them have better Domestic numbers than 4stic has WW....

Didn't work out??? Both IM and Thor either have had or will have a sequel Following those films. And as for as quality goes let's compare Fox's worse to Marvels...

MCU:
Iron Man 2: 72%
Thor: The Dark World: 66%
The Incredible Hulk: 67%

FOX:
X-MEN ORIGINS - WOLVERINE: 38%
ELEKTRA: 10%
Fant4stic: 9%

So what is Millar talking about?

Keep talking bollocks, Millar. You're making easier on me not to watch your films get adapted nevermind your Marvel & Wildstorm material

 

[Krystal]

The British Film Board has startrd listing some of the Blu ray features and so far NO deleted scenes--- cast, score, making of etc.
God will I be happy if there are none for the blind boosters to fawn over.
Of course, this will bring out calls of a cover up--- Fox hiding Tranks masterful scenes so the world won't blame them for ruining the mastpiece.
Within a day or two more they should be done classifying the extras.

 

[Jason Kane]

The British Film Board has startrd listing some of the Blu ray features and so far NO deleted scenes--- cast, score, making of etc.
God will I be happy if there are none for the blind boosters to fawn over.
Of course, this will bring out calls of a cover up--- Fox hiding Tranks masterful scenes so the world won't blame them for ruining the mastpiece.
Within a day or two more they should be done classifying the extras.

So basically a Batman & Robin style DVD release

 

[Brian Braddock]

I'll hold my hand up - I got to see the 1st 25 minutes the other day and I have to say that I surprisingly enjoyed what I saw, but I'll stand by all the criticism that I've given this project as I just didn't enjoy it as a Fantastic Four movie, and therein lays the rub. It's just not an F/F movie. If this project was non-F/F related and the director was left to his own devices, the movie could have been interesting, purely on a sci-fi movie level (Chronicle 2?) but ultimately its production was ****ed up and mishandled right from the beginning to the very end.

 

[Flint Marko]

The British Film Board has startrd listing some of the Blu ray features and so far NO deleted scenes--- cast, score, making of etc.
God will I be happy if there are none for the blind boosters to fawn over.
Of course, this will bring out calls of a cover up--- Fox hiding Tranks masterful scenes so the world won't blame them for ruining the mastpiece.
Within a day or two more they should be done classifying the extras.

At this point I think even the most avid supporters have accepted that Trank's cut probably wasn't as good as they'd like it to be. Right when I left theaters after seeing it, I mentioned that Trank's cut has to be better simply on principle; what I had to sit through was so wretched that I truly can't believe the original cut was any worse. I still sort of stand by that, because the best parts of the movie were the ones where the print was not covered in studio executives finger prints and Trank's original vision shone through. However, I'm convinced that Trank's cut was, while more cohesive, still an unwatchable mess, so they took that and turned it into a generic, unsatisfying, unwatchable mess.