The Flash The Flash General Discussion and Speculation Thread - Part 1

[king666]

Still don't see what's wrong with Vibe...

Yeah. I thought I wouldn't like him but I did. Cool character.

 

[Mr. Dent]

man that ending....

 

[Primal Slayer]

I just want to know if Vibe was forced on them or not. DC has been working their tushes off to make Vibe and Cyborg happen.

 

[Charlie Boy]

No one's checking for Vibe. I'm sure he was DC's doing.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

Question : I did a quick search on Vide. Is he the young male assistant at StarLab ?

 

[chamber-music]

I just want to know if Vibe was forced on them or not. DC has been working their tushes off to make Vibe and Cyborg happen.

I think DC is probably pushing Cyborg and Vibe as they want more visible minority heroes.

I don't really have a problem with it personally. Vibe being in The Flash show isn't going to to matter to anyone besides people who already know who he is and either love him or hate him.

 

[Paradox1]

Question : I did a quick search on Vide. Is he the young male assistant at StarLab ?

Yup

 

[HighFivingMF]

I just want to know if Vibe was forced on them or not. DC has been working their tushes off to make Vibe and Cyborg happen.

Johns wrote the pilot and he's the one that wants to build up Vibe, so no, it wasn't forced on anyone.

 

[Sawyer]

Johns and Kreisberg both wrote that Vibe mini a while back.

 

[Paradox1]

I like Vibe in the little I've seen of him. I liked the energy and enthusiasm he brought to each scene. Allowing Caitlan to be more of the straightman in their interactions.

Also this is one of the most diverse cast and I'm a fan of diversity on the big or little screen in general. I'm very interested in how they play out the gay captain story line. I wonder he'll be in the closet or out of it. I rather he be in the closet so that it can add more depth to his character and include the storyline with his partner.

 

[HighFivingMF]

I'm very interested in how they play out the gay captain story line. I wonder he'll be in the closet or out of it. I rather he be in the closet so that it can add more depth to his character and include the storyline with his partner.

Long as Pied Piper is included in some way I'm happy.

 

[Paradox1]

Long as Pied Piper is included in some way I'm happy.

I thought his partner might of been Dr. Light for a second. I wasn't sure but if it's pied piper than that's the guy I was thinking of.

 

[Herolee10]

So did anyone here notice on how the beginning of the pilot (post Flashback) was inconsistent with what was established in Barry's appearance in "Arrow"?

Spoiler

From what was established in Arrow, Barry left right after Oliver decided to go confront Blood's henchman.

We then see Barry calling Felicity and saying that he wasn't able to get to Star Labs in time on the phone, as opposed to Barry just coming back from Star Labs after having failed to stop the mugger who stole Iris's Laptop.

Plus, by the time Oliver left to go face off Blood's mirakuru due (Pre-Grundy) it was already getting close to evening and Barry was still in Starling City...yet we see Barry already going on a case at the beginning of the episode

 

[LongbowHunter]

So did anyone here notice on how the beginning of the pilot (post Flashback) was inconsistent with what was established in Barry's appearance in "Arrow"?

Spoiler

From what was established in Arrow, Barry left right after Oliver decided to go confront Blood's henchman.

We then see Barry calling Felicity and saying that he wasn't able to get to Star Labs in time on the phone, as opposed to Barry just coming back from Star Labs after having failed to stop the mugger who stole Iris's Laptop.

Plus, by the time Oliver left to go face off Blood's mirakuru due (Pre-Grundy) it was already getting close to evening and Barry was still in Starling City...yet we see Barry already going on a case at the beginning of the episode

Spoiler

To me that whole "How Barry gets to his office continuity error" doesn't seem an error at all. He had a slight idea of hooking up with Felicity. Would you tell her that, instead of just arriving late, you missed the event of your lifetime because you invited another girl to go with you, who then got mugged, so that you had to run after the thief to impress her? Hence, Barry just tells her that he arrived late.
Cutting out that phonecall from the scene makes also sense as it'd confuse the GA just tuning in for Flash. The Arrow crossover scene (especially the :"take your own advice, wear a mask" part should already puzzle them enough, but it's still easy enough to get that they know each other and that Barry must have given a mask to "that other guy from the other show". Introducing another woman from another show and have her call Barry and kinda flirt with him would just be confusing for people who are just interested in watching a Flash pilot.

that other error you pointed out though...

 

[HighFivingMF]

So did anyone here notice on how the beginning of the pilot (post Flashback) was inconsistent with what was established in Barry's appearance in "Arrow"?

Spoiler

Plus, by the time Oliver left to go face off Blood's mirakuru due (Pre-Grundy) it was already getting close to evening and Barry was still in Starling City...yet we see Barry already going on a case at the beginning of the episode

*Shrugs* Time zones or something?

 

[protocida]

Piep Piper was going to be one of the S.T.A.R. Labs scientists in an early draft of the pilot. Don't know why he was cut.

They also cut references to Hal Jordan, Solovar, Nmandi and Hub City.

 

[Sawyer]

TV Line: Fall First Impression

 

[Boy Scout]

Still don't see what's wrong with Vibe...

He's basically Felicity done wrong. However, he can get better as the show progresses.

 

[Herolee10]

Spoiler

To me that whole "How Barry gets to his office continuity error" doesn't seem an error at all. He had a slight idea of hooking up with Felicity. Would you tell her that, instead of just arriving late, you missed the event of your lifetime because you invited another girl to go with you, who then got mugged, so that you had to run after the thief to impress her? Hence, Barry just tells her that he arrived late.
Cutting out that phonecall from the scene makes also sense as it'd confuse the GA just tuning in for Flash. The Arrow crossover scene (especially the :"take your own advice, wear a mask" part should already puzzle them enough, but it's still easy enough to get that they know each other and that Barry must have given a mask to "that other guy from the other show". Introducing another woman from another show and have her call Barry and kinda flirt with him would just be confusing for people who are just interested in watching a Flash pilot.

that other error you pointed out though...

*Shrugs* Time zones or something?

This ironically reminds me of the situation where the creators of X-Men: Origins decided to forgo the look and shots that Singer had created for Wolverine's flashbacks in X1 and X2 when recreating the scene where Wolverine was given his metal claws.

Though the weird thing is that given on how the same producers were in charge of writing and creating this pilot, along with how it wasn't that long after they had filmed Barry's two episodes on Arrow, I can't believe that they would make a such a obvious/blatant continuity mistake.

I mean we had a whole scene of Barry talking to Felicity on the phone when he entered his lab in "Three Ghosts", and yet

Spoiler

that entire sequence is completely redone where he doesn't talk to her anymore in the pilot.

And there's no way that Central City would have its sun up given the distance between the cities (of Central and Starling). Unless Starling city was all the way over in the East Coast while Coast was on the West coast, then it might be possible, but there's no way that Barry could make a regular trip within a few hours like he did in "Arrow".

 

[greenlantern248]

Did they pull the leaked pilot offline?

 

[KillerMcQueen]

Did they pull the leaked pilot offline?

Too late for them to do that now, it's spread all over the place.

 

[greenlantern248]

Where can I find it? I'm assuming they pulled it from YouTube cause I looked.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

Where can I find it? I'm assuming they pulled it from YouTube cause I looked.

Can't help you there, against the hype rules to help people find leaked stuff like this.

 

[greenlantern248]

Hey no problem I knew it was just the fan boy in me wanted to know lol

 

[The Batman]

I hope that at some point, Barry's dad is found innocent of killing Nora.

It always bugged the **** out of me that they never actually resolve that in the comics.