The Justice League General & Speculation Discussion Thread - Part 9

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Other than 2008, I don't think there's ever been a perfect year for CBMs.

This could be it, but we still have Spidey, JL, and Thor to go. My gut is telling me at least one of those is going to fall short of expectations, and with the year being as good as it has been for the genre so far, whoever that is going to really stand out (in a bad way).

If it is anyone of those, please make it Spiderman! Not because I want it to fail, but if one has to die...:o
 
BvS or JL?

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Cowl is different, but brows are similar to the BvS ones, so I'm 99% sure this is an early BvS costume and that pic is from the test screening.

Lovely picture, though.
 
Imagine if he had the cape draped all around his shoulders.

I'm still slightly bothered by the fact that they avoid this iconic visual. Pretty much my only issue with DCEU Batman's look.
 
If it is anyone of those, please make it Spiderman! Not because I want it to fail, but if one has to die...:o

Judging from early critics reactions, Spidey's already in the bag as a surefire hit. Which leaves Thor and JL. JL is hard to guage at this point, I have trepidations about Ragnorak though; I'm sure it'll just fine with the critics and BO wise, but I think it may end up being a little bit divisive for fans who may be disappointed its not the LOTR-esque Thor epic that they were hoping it'd be.
 
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There's no chance imo of JL getting positive reviews.
 
I'm still slightly bothered by the fact that they avoid this iconic visual. Pretty much my only issue with DCEU Batman's look.

I'm surprised we've yet to see it after all the iconic imagery we've had so far. The cape falling around and over the shoulders is a simple and classic one. Heck, Nolan gave that to us.
 
Judging from early critics reactions, Spidey's already in the bag as a surefire hit. Which leaves Thor and JL. JL is hard to guage at this point, I have trepidations about Ragnorak though; I'm sure it'll just fine with the critics and BO wise, but I think some fans may be disappointed its not the LOTR-esque Thor epic that they were hoping it'd be.
They truly dropped the ball on the Thor franchise. It should've been the LOTR of the MCU and it's not that ... not at all ...

JL seems to be bringing some LOTR influence though and that's nice to see
 
I've already accepted JL will probably get negative reviews. Spidey and Thor will be fine. My guess is that I will end up loving JL, appreciating Thor, and hating Spidey though.
 
Also important for contrasting with the reverse, "female gaze". Which is something rarely seen, and when it is, often gets bad reactions from the men in the audience.

I remember back in the 90s Jean Claude VanDamme action movies were very popular among my female friends (and my wife) because of the frequent bun shots provided by JCVD. Everyone was pretty cool about it, that I recall, but then, MA circles may be more open to body appreciation.
 
I've already accepted JL will probably get negative reviews. Spidey and Thor will be fine. My guess is that I will end up loving JL, appreciating Thor, and hating Spidey though.

I feel the same regarding JL. I've more or less accepted it as an absolute. My only hope the reviews arent nearly as toxic and that the fans who didnt like MoS and BvS see it as at at least a marginal improvement to them.
 
Judging from early critics reactions, Spidey's already in the bag as a surefire hit. Which leaves Thor and JL. JL is hard to guage at this point, I have trepidations about Ragnorak though; I'm sure it'll just fine with the critics and BO wise, but I think it may end up being a little bit divisive for fans who may be disappointed its not the LOTR-esque Thor epic that they were hoping it'd be.

At this point Thor fans like myself have pretty much put to bed any hope that RAGNAROK was going to be a Simonson-esque styled fantasy epic about the twilight of the gods... And I am okay with that. The teaser made me go "It's not what I want but it looks pretty entertaining with some good stuff".
 
I feel the same regarding JL. I've more or less accepted it as an absolute. My only hope the reviews arent nearly as toxic and that the fans who didnt like MoS and BvS see it as at at least a marginal improvement to them.

If I had to guess, JL will end up more along the lines of MoS in terms of reception. Negative leaning critically and positive leaning for audiences, but polarizing overall. This will be considered a success for Snyder, but disappointing as a follow up to WW and will standout as the lone CBM "failure" this year. I don't think it'll be as toxic though.

"Snyder, with help from Whedon, crafts a narrative that attempts to course correct the failures of DC films past. Unfortunately, it goes too far in this new direction, ultimately missing the mark on what makes this genre work. Still, a vast improvement for a Snyder and a sign that things are at least heading in the right direction."

That's how I see a lot of reviews reading. I can't see them being overwhelmingly negative though, as that's starting to play itself out.
 
At this point Thor fans like myself have pretty much put to bed any hope that RAGNAROK was going to be a Simonson-esque styled fantasy epic about the twilight of the gods... And I am okay with that. The teaser made me go "It's not what I want but it looks pretty entertaining with some good stuff".

Yeah, it's basically Thor of the Galaxy. But it has Goldblum and a great director, so I will give it a fair shake.
 
I'm surprised we've yet to see it after all the iconic imagery we've had so far. The cape falling around and over the shoulders is a simple and classic one. Heck, Nolan gave that to us.

Indeed. Given the more obscure details we've got, it doesn't seem likely that Snyder would miss something as iconic as this... I'm almost certain that the lack of draping cape is deliberate, though I can't fathom the reason.
 
If I had to guess, JL will end up more along the lines of MoS in terms of reception. Negative leaning critically and positive leaning for audiences, but polarizing overall. This will be considered a success for Snyder, but disappointing as a follow up to WW and will standout as the lone CBM "failure" this year. I don't think it'll be as toxic though.

"Snyder, with help from Whedon, crafts a narrative that attempts to course correct the failures of DC films past. Unfortunately, it goes too far in this new direction, ultimately missing the mark on what makes this genre work. Still, a vast improvement for a Snyder and a sign that things are at least heading in the right direction."

That's how I see a lot of reviews reading. I can't see them being overwhelmingly negative though, as that's starting to play itself out.

Ive seen SS being called "dark and gritty" a few days back. Im not kidding.Maybe the critics will still find JL "2 dark 4 me", because of its visual style. Its pretty hardcore, and that was something people complained about the trailer as well. I also see complaints about it being generic, which will be very amusing and ironic.
 
Indeed. Given the more obscure details we've got, it doesn't seem likely that Snyder would miss something as iconic as this... I'm almost certain that the lack of draping cape is deliberate, though I can't fathom the reason.

It will be in THE BATMAN. Just wait.
 
If I had to guess, JL will end up more along the lines of MoS in terms of reception. Negative leaning critically and positive leaning for audiences, but polarizing overall. This will be considered a success for Snyder, but disappointing as a follow up to WW and will standout as the lone CBM "failure" this year. I don't think it'll be as toxic though.

"Snyder, with help from Whedon, crafts a narrative that attempts to course correct the failures of DC films past. Unfortunately, it goes too far in this new direction, ultimately missing the mark on what makes this genre work. Still, a vast improvement for a Snyder and a sign that things are at least heading in the right direction."

That's how I see a lot of reviews reading. I can't see them being overwhelmingly negative though, as that's starting to play itself out.

Fully agree. I think that's going to be the general consensus, a step in the right direction but not there yet (for critics, at least). I think they'll still have problems with Snyder's overall stylized aesthetic.
 
The thing is, we all know what to expect. We have been through it all. It would be very disingenious to pretend to be shocked when JL gets mixed reviews from critics.

At this point my enjoyment is of most importance and I want this movie to do well in the BO just for Snyder. He deserves a win, after all hes been through.
 
It will be in THE BATMAN. Just wait.
If Matt Reeves gives us a noirish, detective Batman film with a fully-enveloping cape and white eyes, I think my heart would explode.
 
As long as they aren't Holland spider-man eyes, cartoony deadpool eyes (they work on Deadpool but that style wouldn't work on Batfleck), and can turn off allowing us to see his eyes most of the time, then go for it. Tech contacts would work best as they would be suitably advanced and unobtrusive.
 
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The white lenses would be cool but, shots like the one Zack recently posted shows that Batman can look just as ominous without them. So I'm not so pressed to see them like I have been before.
 
I agree they aren't necessary but done right they'd be amazing, just imagine that Batfleck shot above happening as he is confronting a criminal and suddenly his eyes started glowing a soft white light as he slowly advances on the perp.
 
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I would kill for a somewhat low key Martian Manhunter movie, following him as he investigates some kind of crime while pondering philosophical matters about the nature of humanity. Throughout it there are moments where, contrasting with the somewhat hard-boiled tone, he completely defuses various problems through the application of powers that are, in a private detective context, totally OCP. This factors into his musings, as part of them is about what his relationship with humanity means.

And then, towards the end, as the depths of the mystery get darker and more dangerous? J'onn casts aside the facade, and confronts the evil not as the superpowered detective, but as the terrifying eldritch alien demigod. Because at the core of his philosophical quandary is the truth, that he is truly other. But that is ultimately okay, because his disguise is not a lie to humanity, but an outstretched hand. He lives as a human, seeks to understand humanity, because he genuinely wishes to bridge that gap.
Yes!
 
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