The Dark Knight The Man Who Laughs: The Joker Thread 2.0

[The Caped Knight]

Even more pictures from bluedragon77

 

[Spider-Bat]

I can't believe I once doubted Heath and what Nolan was going to do with The Joker. I started warming up to Heath and the new look after seeing more pics and more of him in the trailers, but man after seeing what was done with The Joker and how faithful too, wow! a long time ago I took back all the bad things I said about the whole Joker look and Heath when I started warming up to Joker in TDK, and I just feel so dumb, I should've known better.

It was amazing to see how faithful he was, like not wanting to kill Batman 'cause as he said, Batman completes him, and that line's old but he made it fresh and funny again and it fit.

God bless Heath, and Nolan is the best.

thankyou to Ledger for his great performance and thankyou to Nolan, and Goyer and Jonathan Nolan too for making the first real Batman movie, Batman Begins included ofcourse.

 

[sv2]

Does anyone have the concept picture of Joker in the interrogation room?

All the other links of it are down due to exceeding the bandwidth. Start hosting images on your own guys! Don't piggyback off someone's photobucket account.

 

[Mr. Joker]

We need more Joker pics period. Heath's was so damn cool!

 

[FoJacob]

I just posted about this in another thread, but I really need to get it off my chest so I'll add it here too.

I've been on some other boards around the net today and, although everyone is crazy about Heath's portrayal, some people are so excited for a third installment that they are already talking up who could be recast as the Joker.

It's made me sick, frankly. Everyone's entitled to their opinion and all that, but I personally would be disgusted if they tried to recast the role. It belongs to Heath and there's not an actor in the world I would want to see in the role now - at least not in this series. I'd almost even prefer that Nolan end the series here. Heath's Joker was just so perfect and so entertaining that I can't see how any new villains wouldn't pale horribly in comparison - and yet I desperately don't want to see the Joker again if it's not Heath playing him.

Does anyone else feel similarly? I just get a heartbroken feeling even considering a third film because he won't be in it. That might change at some point in the future, but right now I just want to talk about and enjoy this one and Heath's amazing performance. I just want the praise and discussion (and hype) to go on and on and not already be supplanted by talk of a third.

My apologies if this has already been discussed. Just needed to put my two-cents in.

 

[Mr. Joker]

Yes. At first I was all like "meh, recast him, he's nothing special" but he put his soul into the role & he doesn't deserve to be recast. And from the way Nolan speaks, he won't be.

 

[Skowl]

The Last Act Between Batman & The Joker at the site (With The Joker hanging upside down on the grappling hook line) Was both epic & Tragic.

That scene is brilliant, if only for the visual force that I think alot of people will miss.

Batman sees the world a certain way: upright, still and in "order". Facing him is the Joker (hanging upside down) who sees the world turned on its head, swinging in chaos. One's face is black, one's is white. In that scene, they are physically forming the symbol of the Ying and the Yang together.

 

[Mr. Joker]

I also like how the Joker wanted to actually kill Batman at first, but after what he saw what Batman was actually all about, he changed his mind. Did you see how giddy he got in the interrogation scene?

 

[Spider-Fan]

I also like how the Joker wanted to actually kill Batman at first, but after what he saw what Batman was actually all about, he changed his mind. Did you see how giddy he got in the interrogation scene?

That was the best Joker scene. We see how sick he truly is there, as he is laughing and loving every second of Batman pounding him and getting closer and closer to going over the edge.

That and the killing of TONS of people

 

[Dark Globe]

I just posted about this in another thread, but I really need to get it off my chest so I'll add it here too.

I've been on some other boards around the net today and, although everyone is crazy about Heath's portrayal, some people are so excited for a third installment that they are already talking up who could be recast as the Joker.

It's made me sick, frankly. Everyone's entitled to their opinion and all that, but I personally would be disgusted if they tried to recast the role. It belongs to Heath and there's not an actor in the world I would want to see in the role now - at least not in this series. I'd almost even prefer that Nolan end the series here. Heath's Joker was just so perfect and so entertaining that I can't see how any new villains wouldn't pale horribly in comparison - and yet I desperately don't want to see the Joker again if it's not Heath playing him.

Does anyone else feel similarly? I just get a heartbroken feeling even considering a third film because he won't be in it. That might change at some point in the future, but right now I just want to talk about and enjoy this one and Heath's amazing performance. I just want the praise and discussion (and hype) to go on and on and not already be supplanted by talk of a third.

My apologies if this has already been discussed. Just needed to put my two-cents in.

Heath does not own the role. He did a good job with The Joker, and it's sad that he died, but The Joker doesn't have to die with him. I think if Nolan feels he needs The Joker, he can recast. I, along with other people, trust Nolan to pick another good actor to play The Joker. Heath will be remembered as The Joker and I feel Heath would want someone to take over. No one will replicate Heath's Joker, but someone can always play a different interpretation.

 

[DSET]

Nolan won't recast the Joker. He wouldn't talk about Heath in such a good way & up & recast him. I'm pretty sure this franchise will be done after a third or fourth movie, and we'll get a new Joker in another decade or so, but never again will we get one as good as Heath Ledger's.

I agree
I hope he doesnt

unless its depp
but even with him I dont see it topping heaths performance

 

[DSET]

You know, and I know this probably won't happen, but I'd like to see what Daniel Day Lewis could do with the role

unless they do TDKR
I think hes too old

 

[Mr. Joker]

I agree
I hope he doesnt

unless its depp
but even with him I dont see it topping heaths performance

I'm kind of warming up to Depp as Mr. J, but not in this franchise, at least. Let the Joker die with Heath.

 

[DSET]

I'm kind of warming up to Depp as Mr. J, but not in this franchise, at least. Let the Joker die with Heath.

well he may be too old by that time me thinks

I have a question
how much chaos do you think is gonna start if Ledger is recasted by some1 besides an A+ actor?

I think some will even boycott the movie
I wont, Ill be dissapointed buT ill still see it

 

[Dark Globe]

Age of the actor doesn't matter. Could you really even tell how old Heath looked?

 

[FoJacob]

well he may be too old by that time me thinks

I have a question
how much chaos do you think is gonna start if Ledger is recasted by some1 besides an A+ actor?

I think some will even boycott the movie
I wont, Ill be dissapointed buT ill still see it

Personally I wouldn't see it if they recast the role, l feel that strongly about it. I have no problem with another actor playing the Joker in another series at some point in the future. I doubt I would prefer anyone else's take on the character, but I don't have a problem with someone trying.

I do have a problem with them doing it in Nolan's series. Besides the fact that I personally think it would be disrespectful to Heath's amazing performance and all he put into the role (some people may disagree, that's fine), I don't think anyone could do it in a way that would be the least bit effective. I wouldn't want anyone to try and emulate Heath's Joker, but at the same time having a different actor put their own unique spin on the same character in the same series wouldn't make any sense. In another series it would be fine. In the same series it wouldn't. You can change the actress who plays Rachel because the character stays essentially the same. But if another actor took on the Joker and gave it a unique spin of their own, it would no longer be the same Joker. I don't know... Maybe it's within the realm of possibility for it to work if, say, they said it was a copycat Joker - not the one we came to know in TDK - or if the events in the third occurred years and years after TDK (but who wants to see an old Batman?) I would just prefer them not to try and do it.

Dark Globe, I was just thinking about that the other day when I saw the film for the second time. I can barely see Heath at all in the Joker, but I can see his youth even less. Had I never heard of Heath Ledger before seeing the Joker, I would have expected him to be around 40 or so. I'm not sure why. The voice maybe, or the hunched up shoulders or something. It's just another testament to how completely he disappeared in the character.

 

[Mr. Joker]

Age of the actor doesn't matter. Could you really even tell how old Heath looked?

If he's still in good shape by the next movie I don't see why not. I think he could do a good job (not as good as Heath, though).

 

[Anubis Raptor]

Man you have to be pretty strong to perform that awesome card trick

 

[Mr. Joker]

Hell yeah.

Oh & not to mention that he took being in a truck that got flipped over like it was nothing. C'mon, the guy was honestly a whack job that would kill Nicholson within minutes even without weapons.

 

[Dark Globe]

 

[Mr. Joker]

We need Two-Face pics!

 

[Anubis Raptor]

We need Two-Face pics!

Agreed.

 

[Anubis Raptor]

If I were you I would take that pic down for safety reasons...^^

 

[Squidarella]

Dark Globe! I'm sure everyone else on here knows, but where is that from?

 

[Mr. Joker]

Me don't know....?

But that pic is hella cool.