Ant-Man The Official Ant-Man News and Speculation Thread - Part 6

[Snow Queen]

Ah, true.

 

[Dark Raven]

I wonder if Scott Lang actually steals the Ant Man costume in the film like in the comics. In the trailer it almost looks like Hank is introducing him to it for the first time. Maybe he steals something else in this movie?

 

[Gusto]

Hank says he's been watching him for awhile...

I do think Scott stealing the suit imprisons him, but Hank let him/set it up. In the BTS trailer, Scott's wearing his burglar outfit (from the main) and approaching the Ant-Man suit. I doubt Scott in that get-up is Hank simply letting him have a look at the suit.

Basically Hank blackmails him (?). I dunno.

 

[Gusto]

It's for a good cause.

 

[Gusto]

Or maybe not stealing the suit. Something else (I doubt Hank would let him get arrested with the suit in tow). Possibly just sets off a bunch of alarms or steals something else.

 

[Dark Raven]

Maybe Lang is an employee of Pym Technologies and that's how Hank has been watching him for a while. Scott has been quietly working away until his situation forces him to have to steal from his employer, at which point he is caught and arrested. How else could Hank have been closely watching him for a period of time and come to know his character?

 

[Ultron-5]

Yeah but isn't Darren Cross is boss?

 

[The Guard]

This is a really disappointing teaser. Dunno whether the final movie will be any good from this, but the teaser is just beyond "meh". The problem isn't only that it looks generic, which it does. It's that it looks kind of soulless. And that concerns me.

Douglas looks like he's really going through the motions here. And yet they're trying to use such a sappy, slow, emotional voiceover...and it just doesn't work.

It's as generic as you can get visually and conceptually so far, and Scott Lang, the Ant-Man who you'd think should have personality, especially in this filmverse, has an eyebrow piercing and wears leather and such...but seems to have no actual personality, at least based on the trailer.

Paul Rudd is a lot more stoic than we've seen him in some time (are they going for "tired"?) and that just seems like a mistake to me.

Then there's this big, pounding score with some really underwhelming action (TWO police cars!!!)...it just looks sloppily put together. The teaser seems to be afraid to commit to anything conceptually, and doesn't strike a good balance of emotion, action, comedy or drama.

The real way to make ANT MAN work is to go the AQUAMAN route. Make the obvious "jokes", but then he turns out to be, at least in some respects, a badass. Not a superhero, because most superheroes can fight, win, etc. A badass, over-his-head but driven superhero.

And they tried to make him look kind of badass. But he just isn't.

About the only thing that made me go "That's kind of clever" was the name joke at the end.

 

[ctsketch]

This is a really disappointing teaser. Dunno whether the final movie will be any good from this, but the teaser is just beyond "meh". The problem isn't only that it looks generic, which it does. It's that it looks kind of soulless. And that concerns me.

Douglas looks like he's really going through the motions here. And yet they're trying to use such a sappy, slow, emotional voiceover...and it just doesn't work.

It's as generic as you can get visually and conceptually so far, and Scott Lang, the Ant-Man who you'd think should have personality, especially in this filmverse, has an eyebrow piercing and wears leather and such...but seems to have no actual personality, at least based on the trailer.

Paul Rudd is a lot more stoic than we've seen him in some time (are they going for "tired"?) and that just seems like a mistake to me.

Then there's this big, pounding score with some really underwhelming action (TWO police cars!!!)...it just looks sloppily put together. The teaser seems to be afraid to commit to anything conceptually, and doesn't strike a good balance of emotion, action, comedy or drama.

The real way to make ANT MAN work is to go the AQUAMAN route. Make the obvious "jokes", but then he turns out to be, at least in some respects, a badass. Not a superhero, because most superheroes can fight, win, etc. A badass, over-his-head but driven superhero.

And they tried to make him look kind of badass. But he just isn't.

About the only thing that made me go "That's kind of clever" was the name joke at the end.

Never before has a teaser review post said so much..yet...so little at the same time

 

[The Guard]

Sort of like the teaser.

 

[Art Freak]

It's as generic as you can get visually and conceptually so far, and Scott Lang, the Ant-Man who you'd think should have personality, especially in this filmverse, has an eyebrow piercing and wears leather and such...but seems to have no actual personality, at least based on the trailer.

Um...where was that? There's some butterfly bandages on his eyebrow in scenes.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Um...where was that? There's some butterfly bandages on his eyebrow in scenes.

Perhaps fewer giant complainy posts and more paying attention is in order.

 

[Gusto]

Maybe Lang is an employee of Pym Technologies and that's how Hank has been watching him for a while. Scott has been quietly working away until his situation forces him to have to steal from his employer, at which point he is caught and arrested. How else could Hank have been closely watching him for a period of time and come to know his character?

Yeah I don't buy the whole "you're special" thing if Lang wasn't close enough for Pym to observe. I suppose Pym hired him after he was released from prison (they're keeping that right?) and he learned everything from there.

 

[Dyson]

Is there a link to this press release about who is being credited for what in the film?

 

[ctsketch]

Um...where was that? There's some butterfly bandages on his eyebrow in scenes.

Also there are 5 police cars, not two

 

[ctsketch]

and Scott Lang in a prison fight....

 

[Sexy Magician]

Spoiler

Pretty sure he's supposed to be Chitauri, unless I'm misreading it.

Not necessarily. The wreckage during The Battle of New York could have possibly exposed a previously hidden lab or something.

Yeah I was thinking the same, I highly doubt that Ultrons creation has anything to do with the chitauri

 

[jmc]

The argument I've seen is that a teaser is not suppose to show much. Whilst it's true a teaser doesn't have to show you much it's suppose to show you at the very least something interesting, and the thing that the teaser lacked was something interesting. It could have been any superhero from any brand in that trailer, any actor could have been in any of the roles, basically nothing mattered.

 

[Six]

I thought it was a great teaser. It seems to me people either love it or hate it.

 

[Eggyman]

What if Pym anonymously hires Lang to steal from him, and introduces him to the suit that way?

 

[Gusto]

What if Pym anonymously hires Lang to steal from him, and introduces him to the suit that way?

Something like that is what I'm thinking. Lang tries to steal it and gets arrested for it, Pym then bails him out of jail so he can help. Although it doesn't explain why Pym would go through so much trouble...

If not then Lang simply tries to steal it on his own and everything else is in place.

 

[chamber-music]

Isn't Crossfire in this? I remember Patrick Wilson was rumored to play him before he departed the project. I wonder if they recast him or Crossfire was just written out completely.

I think his character was probably written out which is a shame.

There was a shot in there which looked like a flashback to 1960s South America? Adds weight to all the rumors about Howard stark/pym/shield

On i09 they have been trying to work out what the symbols mean on the compound.

 

[747]

It has a neat shift in tone, and Douglas voice-over is effective. I do detect some of the forced, bland coziness of past Peyton Reed movies though.

When leaked test footage is better than the first official teaser it's a bit worrying.

 

[kosh33]

In the voiceover, Pym says he has been watching Lang for sometime time.. maybe he went to jail for trying to steal something from Pym's company... in the time he was in jail, Pym has found out about Lang's back story and now thinks he can be recruited to take something back..

Its a long shot, but since they havent confirmed that Jan is dead, maybe he wants to steal something to save Jan who might be trapped somewhere (like the microverse, like in the comics)..

 

[Mike Murdock]

It's as generic as you can get visually and conceptually so far, and Scott Lang, the Ant-Man who you'd think should have personality, especially in this filmverse, has an eyebrow piercing and wears leather and such...but seems to have no actual personality, at least based on the trailer.

I'm sorry, but that's a dumb criticism. It's a teaser trailer that features nine words (counting "huh") for Scott Lang. It isn't designed to show his personality. So you can't say he "seems to have no actual personality." The teaser is entirely agnostic on that point. You might as well say Darren Cross and Hope Van Dyne have no personality, at least based on the trailer. It's a meaningless criticism.

I'm not disagreeing with much of what you say, but this particular criticism is misplaced.