Batman Returns The Official Batman Returns Thread - Part 4

[Ponyboy]

Thought this was a clever use of the chest emblem from the Returns suit

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

She decided to do her first superhero movie since “Batman Returns” partly because she enjoyed director Peyton Reed’s take on “Ant-Man.” “It had this great sense of humor about it and just this unusual tone,” she says. “This new script has the same thing. It’s nicely written.”

She’s also pleased that more than 20 years after its release, “Batman Returns,” with its grim take on Gotham City, is still held up as a high point of cinematic Dark Knight tales. “It was all Tim Burton,” she says. “He was able to bring this heart and darkness and humor to it.”

Pfeiffer says she would love to reprise her Catwoman character, though she won’t repeat the lengths she went to in playing Selina Kyle. In the pre-CGI era, a scene where Catwoman sticks a bird in her mouth before releasing it required her to perform with a live animal. “I can’t believe I did that,” she says. “I could have gotten a disease.”

Variety Interview

There we go Bat-Fleck. La Peiffer is willing to give it another go in the Cat-suit.

 

[Elevator Man]

I'm happy that she's getting somewhat of a comeback with Aronofsky's Mother!, Branagh's Murder On The Orient Express remake, and the upcoming Antman sequel. Hopefully all are juicy roles.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Michelle still gorgeoas at her age.and great to seems to be getting a lot of film work nowadays.

 

[Nardz937]

https://batman-news.com/2017/10/17/...3xlp-batman-returns-soundtrack-this-november/

Exclusive: Mondo to release expanded 3XLP ‘Batman Returns’ soundtrack this November

Batman Returns has a beautiful, operatic score by Danny Elfman, but while it’s widely regarded as some of the best music ever orchestrated for a superhero film (or any film, for that matter) it hasn’t been pressed to vinyl in over 25 years! Well, just like Batman and Penguin said in the movie, “Things change.”

Mondo has announced a highly stylized vinyl with original artwork by Kilian Eng, and it’s coming to MondoCon in less than a month as an exclusive 3XLP. MondoCon 2017 will be held at the Austin American-Statesman in downtown Austin this November 4th and 5th. Tickets have sold out, but stand-by passes will be made available at the Austin American-Statesman each day of the event. In addition to the exclusive posters and records, Mondo will also have panels on comics, film, music, games (their upcoming board game about John Carpenter’s THE THING looks bad ass), and more.

There’s still hope if you can’t make it to Austin on November 4th, though! Any remaining copies of the 3XLP will go on sale online soon after MondoCon wraps, AND a 2XLP version will be sold both online at MondoTees.com and in stores so everyone has a chance to own the music to Batman Returns and the fabulous art by Kilian Eng.

Mondo is honored to celebrate the 25th anniversary of Tim Burton’s BATMAN RETURNS with an expanded 3XLP soundtrack release. Danny Elfman’s score to BATMAN RETURNS is as sweeping and epic in scope as an opera. The carnival of characters (heroes, villains and everything between) are tragic and struggling with duality, in a snow-covered metropolis that sets the stage for Elfman’s composing at his absolute finest.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Hey guys, it's been a while since I've been in here. What happened to the Batman 1989 thread?

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Batman 1989 thread.

 

[GREEN =w= DAY]

With Christmas season practically upon us, anyone else gonna watch Batman Returns?

 

[jaymes_e06]

I've never stopped watching it on a regular basis.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Oh I watch it a few times a year... but I'll definitely be giving it a re-watch as Christmas approaches.

 

[Nardz937]

Yep. I watch this movie several times a year.

Christmas is just another good excuse to use to give it a watch.

 

[Ponyboy]

https://batman-news.com/2017/10/17/...3xlp-batman-returns-soundtrack-this-november/

Exclusive: Mondo to release expanded 3XLP ‘Batman Returns’ soundtrack this November

Can't believe I missed out on this already... it sold out quick! Guess I'll have to settle for the 2LP

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Slightly too expensive for me anyway. Especially as I finally have my eye on this:

 

[OutOfBoose]

With Christmas season practically upon us, anyone else gonna watch Batman Returns?

My winter holidays movie.

 

[BaelaTargaryen]

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What Tim Burton's Original Vision Was for 'Batman Returns'

Tim Burton's Batman Returns may have been a box office hit when it was released in 1992, but despite being generally enjoyed by fans and critics alike the film was criticized by being too dark and too violent. Now, a new video deconstructs the Batman sequel and reveals Tim Burton's drastically different original vision.

As the video from LowRes Wünderbred explains, Burton wasn't particularly interested in directing another film in the Batman franchise. However, Warner Bros. gave Burton a large amount of creative control to return which lead to him exploring a very different story. In the original "Batman 2" script by Sam Hamm, the plot followed the Penguin -- named Mr. Bonafice in this version -- hiring Catwoman to track down a set of antique ravens. With one of the antique ravens being located under Wayne Manor, the video explains that the story drew from the work of Frank Miller with elements from The Dark Knight Returns dropped into the script. Specifically, "Batman 2" would have featured a "vigilante Batman cult" and Batman riding a horse.

According to the video, Vicki Vale would have returned in this version of the sequel, and the Penguin/Oswald Cobblepot for mayor plot was abandoned completely. "Batman 2" ultimately would have had a much lighter tone than what Batman Returns ultimately had, with the tone of "Batman 2" being described as falling somewhere between the early episodes of the animated series and Adam West's Batman television series from the 1960s.

However, this lighter version -- which would have ended with Bruce proposing to Vicki -- didn't impress Warner Bros. They felt that the film lacked depth when it came to the villains as compared to Jack Nicholson’s dynamic Joker in Batman, so Burton was pushed to pursue a different approach. Hamm's script was done away with, Heather's screenwriter Daniel Walters was brought on board and while there was still some borrowing from the Batman television show -- that's where the idea of Penguin running for mayor came from. It's also explained that, in addition to cutting Vicki Vale from the film entirely, both Marlon Wayans' Robin and Billy Dee Williams' Harvey Dent were both cut as well, with Dent eventually being recast with Tommy Lee Jones when Joel Schumacher came on board for 1995's Batman Forever.

While Batman Returns went on to have the highest opening weekend of 1992 and, for it time, the highest opening weekend of any film up to that point, the film did have some cultural backlash. Parents were concerned about the violence and sexual references in the film despite its PG-13 rating and McDonalds's pulled their Happy Meal promotion for the film. Batman Returns would ultimately become a bit of a cult classic -- with some even arguing that the film is a perfect Christmas movie -- but knowing more about Burton's original vision, fans will no doubt find themselves wondering what might have been.

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

With Christmas season practically upon us, anyone else gonna watch Batman Returns?

After the event, but yes I did - on Boxing Day

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

Variety Interview

There we go Bat-Fleck. La Peiffer is willing to give it another go in the Cat-suit.

I would pay very good money to see Keaton and Pfeiffer suit-up one more time!

 

[Lead Cenobite]

I doubt Batman 2 would have been as light as they intended if they were bringing back Burton to direct it, even if they didn't give him free reign. It probably would have ended up about like the first movie.

 

[Herofan]

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What Tim Burton's Original Vision Was for 'Batman Returns'

I read the script and it actually was very violent, I think quite a bit more violent than BR (Catwoman ruthlessly killed a lot of people), and I believe it was Burton rather than WB who found the idea of looking for treasure to be uncompelling.

 

[TMC1982]

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What Tim Burton's Original Vision Was for 'Batman Returns'

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http://comicbook.com/dc/2018/01/01/batman-returns-tim-burton-original-vision/

Tim Burton's Batman Returns may have been a box office hit when it was released in 1992, but despite being generally enjoyed by fans and critics alike the film was criticized by being too dark and too violent. Now, a new video deconstructs the Batman sequel and reveals Tim Burton's drastically different original vision.

As the video from LowRes Wünderbred explains, Burton wasn't particularly interested in directing another film in the Batman franchise. However, Warner Bros. gave Burton a large amount of creative control to return which lead to him exploring a very different story. In the original "Batman 2" script by Sam Hamm, the plot followed the Penguin -- named Mr. Bonafice in this version -- hiring Catwoman to track down a set of antique ravens. With one of the antique ravens being located under Wayne Manor, the video explains that the story drew from the work of Frank Miller with elements from The Dark Knight Returns dropped into the script. Specifically, "Batman 2" would have featured a "vigilante Batman cult" and Batman riding a horse.

According to the video, Vicki Vale would have returned in this version of the sequel, and the Penguin/Oswald Cobblepot for mayor plot was abandoned completely. "Batman 2" ultimately would have had a much lighter tone than what Batman Returns ultimately had, with the tone of "Batman 2" being described as falling somewhere between the early episodes of the animated series and Adam West's Batman television series from the 1960s.

However, this lighter version -- which would have ended with Bruce proposing to Vicki -- didn't impress Warner Bros. They felt that the film lacked depth when it came to the villains as compared to Jack Nicholson’s dynamic Joker in Batman, so Burton was pushed to pursue a different approach. Hamm's script was done away with, Heather's screenwriter Daniel Walters was brought on board and while there was still some borrowing from the Batman television show -- that's where the idea of Penguin running for mayor came from. It's also explained that, in addition to cutting Vicki Vale from the film entirely, both Marlon Wayans' Robin and Billy Dee Williams' Harvey Dent were both cut as well, with Dent eventually being recast with Tommy Lee Jones when Joel Schumacher came on board for 1995's Batman Forever.

While Batman Returns went on to have the highest opening weekend of 1992 and, for it time, the highest opening weekend of any film up to that point, the film did have some cultural backlash. Parents were concerned about the violence and sexual references in the film despite its PG-13 rating and McDonalds's pulled their Happy Meal promotion for the film. Batman Returns would ultimately become a bit of a cult classic -- with some even arguing that the film is a perfect Christmas movie -- but knowing more about Burton's original vision, fans will no doubt find themselves wondering what might have been.

 

[Hordakfan]

Saw this in theaters 4 times when i was 11 and had some merchandise even Mcdonalds cups and even got the movie on VHS for christmas.

Who else thinks Batman TAS is almost a spin-off of the Burton films in aspects even the designs of Selina Kyle and Penguin in the first 3 seasons even in the 4th season with Catwoman's costume being like Pfeifer's to Jack Napier etc.?

 

[Herofan]

Something to consider but more for fun. One of the trailers kind of presents the characters and plot as simpler, more straightforward, even closer to the comics. 2:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcg0shbC_Js

The plot seems a lot simpler-Penguin is just a criminal/crime boss, Catwoman just wants to seduce and frame Batman, when that fails Penguin uses various forces and means to try to destroy Gotham. Although other trailers did portray the characters more as they actually were in the film, dark and twisted, so the film wasn't deceptively marketed.

And these toy commercials are funny in how light, goofy, commercial, family-friendly they make the film seem to be (nearly/kind of Schumacher-y), not a dark element at all aside from a few seconds of music (in just one of five). 2:32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0o5hcxunAA

 

[Hordakfan]

Something to consider but more for fun. One of the trailers kind of presents the characters and plot as simpler, more straightforward, even closer to the comics. 2:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcg0shbC_Js

The plot seems a lot simpler-Penguin is just a criminal/crime boss, Catwoman just wants to seduce and frame Batman, when that fails Penguin uses various forces and means to try to destroy Gotham. Although other trailers did portray the characters more as they actually were in the film, dark and twisted, so the film wasn't deceptively marketed.

And these toy commercials are funny in how light, goofy, commercial, family-friendly they make the film seem to be (nearly/kind of Schumacher-y), not a dark element at all aside from a few seconds of music (in just one of five). 2:32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0o5hcxunAA

I had some of those toys when i was 11.

And do you agree Batman TAS had some elements from the Burton films even Selina Kyle and Penguin to Jack Napier?

 

[Herofan]

Yeah, definitely some influences and homages. Penguin and Selina's looks in TAS were influenced by BR I think by WB mandate but interestingly in TNBA Selina looks less but Catwoman looks more like the movie version. The decision to make Joker prior to his transformation a mobster in the acclaimed MotP also seems a deliberate choice by the creators rather than something WB would insist on.

And I think everyone loves the Batmobile as it was in both the Burton films and TAS.

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

Who else thinks Batman TAS is almost a spin-off of the Burton films in aspects even the designs of Selina Kyle and Penguin in the first 3 seasons even in the 4th season with Catwoman's costume being like Pfeifer's to Jack Napier etc.?

Timm has gone on record as saying that they very much wanted to carry over that Burton-esque feeling (even getting Danny Elfman to do a variant version of his Batman theme for the first season main titles). I've also read that Timm was invited to WB studios to see the make-up designs for DeVito's Penguin. Security around the project was so tight that Timm wasn't able to take any photographs so he had to sketch what he saw and base his designs for the character around that.

I love Batman Returns. It's pretty much neck and neck with The Dark Knight as my favourite Batman movie.