The Official Moon Knight Thread - Part 1

Wow, I didn't expect to like it at all, but I had a really great time reading this. Bendis is really better in writing street level characters.

I love the fact that Marc is a less depressing character here and does not whine and pop pills anymore. He is still mentally unstable, but he seems to be having a good time being mentally ill which makes him scarier and unpredictable and mysterious. What Bendis did here was make the craziness of Spector an asset instead of a liability and it makes reading Moon Knight far more enjoyable than what Huston did recently.

Bendis and Maleev does it again. Im in here for the long haul.
 
Wasn't too bad. The art was solid, as expected. Interesting twist here on the character and I'm going to pick up the next couple of issues to see where Bendis is going to be going with this. I'm just wondering how Marc Spector went from where he did in the last Moon Knight series to being a television producer. It would be nice to get an explanation on how that bridge happened.
 
Well he needed a way to cash in to support his war on crime, but yeah i definatly agree with what Antonydelfini said and we can see that Bendis has big plans with Moon Knight since Avengers #12.1 had more Moon Knight action than what Brubaker ever had for MK in his Secret Avengers run lol. :p
 
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MOON KNIGHT #4
Written by BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS
Pencils & Cover by ALEX MALEEV
With the aid of his Avengers allies, Marc Spector is one step closer to finding out who the kingpin of the super-powered LA underworld is, but the kingpin is one step closer to finding out all of Moon Knight's secrets. From the Eisner award-winning team that brought you Daredevil, Spider-Woman and Halo is another gorgeous chapter in the brand-new mythos of Moon Knight.
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$3.99

DAKEN: DARK WOLVERINE #13
Written by ROB WILLIAMS
Penciled by MATTEO BUFFAGNI
Cover by GIUSEPPE CAMUNCOLI
Who is the Kingpin of the City of Angels?
Daken and Moon Knight are both asking themselves that exact question, so it’s only a matter of time before they run into each other…but will it be as friend or foe? People get crazy under a full moon. Part one of two.
32 PGS./Parental Advisory …$2.99
Moon Knight's appearances in the Marvel Comics Solicitations for August, 2011

There's also this cover featuring Bullseye that the solicitation mentions as being for MK #3. Which is odd because (a) in the July solicits, #3 already had a cover and (b) didn't Bullseye die in SHADOWLAND? Even for Marvel that would be a pretty quick turnaround on characters being dead/alive.
 
Bullseye got killed in Shadowland #1 and was resurrected as a servant in #3 or #4 so yeah his death was meant to serve as a tool, but yeha so Bullseye is the Kingpin of LA? Awesome!
 
Bullseye as the Kingpin would be great.

I can't believe I'm excited for this character. I've bought the 1st 2 issues of Huston's run, the 1st 2 issues of Vengeance of MK, and Shadowland, because I was really interested in the character because of his visual appeal, but he never clicked for me and he never made me think he could be one of Marvel's top characters. But with the 1st issue of Bendis' MK, I kind of see what Bendis is doing. He really made MK a much a more fun, interesting, mysterious and charming character. And I believe after all is said and done, Bendis will be to MK what Miller was to DD.
 
Bullseye got killed in Shadowland #1 and was resurrected as a servant in #3 or #4 so yeah his death was meant to serve as a tool, but yeha so Bullseye is the Kingpin of LA? Awesome!

It's been a while, but I thought the heroes PREVENTED Bullseye from being resurrected by the Hand, and the Beast-possessed-Daredevil. Murdock intended to do so, but he was stopped before he could.

Not like Bendis has let such pesky things get in the way - see NEW AVENGERS (vol. 1) #2.
 
Do you really think what's canon is a concern for the almighty Bendis..? Really..?
 
Do you really think what's canon is a concern for the almighty Bendis..? Really..?

Not at all. I almost replied to SpideyInTree with a quip in that regard. I hear Bendis can be all about some continuity when he wants to in AVENGERS, at least with Ultron. But that's probably an exception.
 
I read the issue lastnight. I enjoyed fairly well, though this is my first time reading MK, so I have nothing to really base him around. I really enjoyed the artwork as well. I'll probably pick up the next few to see if I can get a feel for it.
 
#2 teaser:
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So, as Bendis stated in interviews, not only does Specter have personalities of other heroes in his head, he dresses as them sometimes. But he's not a cartoon character because he's not depressed about it? :dry:

This whole premise seems, well...insane. Pun not intended.

Imagine if I had Two-Face bump his personality to Five and in addition to Harvey Dent and Two-Face, he had Batman, Superman, and Steel in there. Would you take him seriously if at the roll of a die he was wearing a red towel and hitting people with a hammer while screaming about how guns are bad? No, he'd seem like a SNL skit gone too far, least to me.

Maybe the rest of the premise is alright, but I see quite a bit of harm being done to Specter as a character. At least I'll get to see him alright in SECRET AVENGERS so long as I'm on that. Every time I see a preview I don't regret passing on this. Hope those of you who took the plunge are enjoying it. It'd suck to not enjoy a $3.99 book.
 
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The annoying thing is that with Bendis/Maleev on the book, Marvel is literally throwing what it feels as an A-List creative team at MOON KNIGHT. If it sells well, this will be how Moon Knight is written for, basically, ever. If it underwhelms and has to be canned in a year, or less, like SPIDER-WOMAN was (twice), then Marvel will merely feel that Moon Knight himself is the problem and may take a while to relaunch him again.

Which could help, maybe. He'd had a long rest between ongoing series between the end of his 90's series and the relaunch in 2005-2006 with Charlie Husten (aside for a mini series and appearances in MARVEL KNIGHTS or MARVEL TEAM UP, of course).
 
I wouldn't mind an extended break if this fails. Something to let the character slowly build up his fanbase again through appearances in Secret Avengers, Heroes for Hire, and other books. Just don't flood the market with him, let people want more.
 
Comic Book writing 101: You dont change a character to fit your needs...think of all the great runs....Claremont on X-men, Simonson in Thor, David on Hulk, Miller on Daredevil...the characters werent changed to fit what the writer wanted to do....
 
I wouldn't mind an extended break if this fails. Something to let the character slowly build up his fanbase again through appearances in Secret Avengers, Heroes for Hire, and other books. Just don't flood the market with him, let people want more.

It could be argued that the long break between Moon Knight's 90's series ending and his new series with Charlie Husten helped fuel that series to debuting well. It was selling 60k or more back then - what SECRET AVENGERS sells now. Of course, the entire comic market, and economy, was a different animal in 2006 than in 2011.

But overall, you are right. However, Marvel rarely have the courage to keep certain characters away from the stage long enough to build demand. Their best success in this regard was Thor. His title was canceled in 2004, and through a series of unplanned circumstances, a relaunch was not ready until 2007. But this allowed fans to genuinely miss him, and gave the impression that Marvel would not relaunch THOR unless it was truly special, or "worthy". Despite sales losses, THOR was still selling better lately than it was in 2004 - one of few titles you can say that about. Yet, Marvel have not replicated this; Black Panther usually returns 6 months or less after his latest launch dies, and so has Moon Knight.

It's not that I hate Moon Knight or so on. I am sure there are fans to Bendis' approach and we'll see how well it sold next month. But you are right, Marvel often feels you can't have too much of a good thing, and are flooding the market at the wrong time.

Comic Book writing 101: You dont change a character to fit your needs...think of all the great runs....Claremont on X-men, Simonson in Thor, David on Hulk, Miller on Daredevil...the characters werent changed to fit what the writer wanted to do....

Those were legendary talents and franchise runs. But those eras also had stronger editors, I believe. Since the end of the harsh Jim Shooter era, I think most editors - especially in the post-bankruptcy era, act like the children of stern parents - who often "rebel" by letting their own kids get away with murder. I think Marvel as a company was so burned by Shooter's "iron fist" rule that they've done a 180 since when it comes to criticism for many of their writers.

That said, not all great writers mangle characters to get good runs out of them. I don't think Ed Brubaker has drastically changed who Steve Rogers is for his CA run. Even Bendis himself didn't warp Daredevil as much as he has Moon Knight for his franchise run there - sure, he made DD's world very dark and grim, after which Brubaker and Diggle followed suit, but all that was inspired by Frank Miller anyway.
 
#2 is good and it's interesting to determine whenever or not it's good Bendis is making Moon Knight bigger by adding his upcoming Ultron event into Moon Knight as the Ultron mystery plays part in the ongoing, but yeah maybe Moon Knight is gonna get a Avengers invitation? He sure did more in #12.1 of Avengers than what he did in Secret Avengers, well maybe alittle less than the 12 issue run of Bru. :p :p

Still this really has the guns to be the next big Bendis thing. :)
 
2 was better than 1 in that it had some nice touches to it.

I like the fact that Moon Knight's reputation is such that a crazy guy who's wearing a Spidey costume with Wolvie retrctable claws over the top of a Moon Knight costume is viewed to be just as likely to ACTUALLY BE Moon Knight as it is some other random nutbag dressing up as heroes.
 
I don't know what scares me more. The thought of Bendis s***ting all over continuity by giving MK a 5th personality; thereby destroying the 4 phases of the moon parallel, or Bendis s***ting all over continuity by just having Bullseye actully pop up again despite being dead...

If Bullseye becomes a personality, he better shelve one of Spidey/Wolverine/Cap...

Any thoughts on who the Kingpin of L.A. is going to be? From that silhouette I'm going with either Owl or, and this'll take some fans back, Crossfire.

One of many unexplored aspects of the character is his time as a C.I.A operative... Sadly, the mystical aspects are starting to also be one of those unexplored aspects...
 
I thought the Kingpin of L.A looked like Count Nefaria, but the solicitation for #3 does remind the readers that Bullseye is dead and Bendis did claim he liked Shadowland, so either he's resurrecting Bullseye or Moon Knight's personalities are off the rocket.
 
CBR Preview's up to revealing some of the art un-lettered, but it still doesn't eveal anything new...
 
I thought the Kingpin of L.A looked like Count Nefaria, but the solicitation for #3 does remind the readers that Bullseye is dead and Bendis did claim he liked Shadowland, so either he's resurrecting Bullseye or Moon Knight's personalities are off the rocket.

Then again, Count Nefaria would be the type of person capable of bringing him back.

If it is Nefaria.

I don't know what scares me more. The thought of Bendis s***ting all over continuity by giving MK a 5th personality; thereby destroying the 4 phases of the moon parallel, or Bendis s***ting all over continuity by just having Bullseye actully pop up again despite being dead...

You're kidding right? It doesn't mess with continuity, since being dead has never stopped a villain from showing up again in comics.

Especially if we are dealing with Nefaria here. And this is Bullseye we're talking about for goodness sake.
 
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I have my doubts it is Nefaria. But I guess we'll just have to wait and see... The start with Hyde would fit though.
 
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Moon Knight #3 preview! :)

Bendis shows us Moon Knight's detective work as he looks for new allies on his crime fightning, and abit of humour in the dialogue too, great. :) Also seemingly testing the loyalty by impersonating as Bullseye.
 
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