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[The Dark Defender]

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If you like to see people's skull's being drilled into and people's limbs being twisted off then yes it is.

Hence my point, movies geared toward hardcore horror fans don't really feel the need to cut away from things that people will find too upsetting, nor should they.

 

[The Dark Defender]

Where did I say that it was all about the twists? I just said I figured one out early on in the film.

You seem to be citing is a major problem with the movie, I was merely pointing out that it wasn't really the point of the movie anyway.

 

[The Dark Defender]

Am I missing something here? Are you guys all 15? The Saw series has never been very good. With all the hype surronding the movie you would've thought it would be the next Se7en. They are silly movies with silly actors and silly gore. They have slightly clever plots, but are completely implausible. While the first two were entertaining, this one seemed tedious to me. The CSI style direction really gets under my skin. The filmwriters obviously stopped making any sense with this one. I don't get it.

Someone disagreeing with you doesn't mean that they're 15, and I never thought Se7en was very good. It was a tedious, overrated exhibition in mediocrity. SAW was to me what Se7en would've been if it were as good as people said it was. Just as SAW haters say they saw their twists coming a mile away, I felt the same way about Se7en, Shawnee and Tobin give stronger performances than anyone in Se7en, and the "silly gore" is part of how no holds barred these movies are. In a time where the market had been flooded with one PG-13 overy Hollywoodized, watered down for the mainstream, ghost flick Ring cash-in after another, the genre needed gritty, uncompromising horror to save it, the SAW franchise is a perfect example.
I don't find them completely implausable, to an extent maybe, but that can be said about practically any movie.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Someone disagreeing with you doesn't mean that they're 15, and I never thought Se7en was very good. It was a tedious, overrated exhibition in mediocrity. SAW was to me what Se7en would've been if it were as good as people said it was. Just as SAW haters say they saw their twists coming a mile away, I felt the same way about Se7en, Shawnee and Tobin give stronger performances than anyone in Se7en, and the "silly gore" is part of how no holds barred these movies are. In a time where the market had been flooded with one PG-13 overy Hollywoodized, watered down for the mainstream, ghost flick Ring cash-in after another, the genre needed gritty, uncompromising horror to save it, the SAW franchise is a perfect example.
I don't find them completely implausable, to an extent maybe, but that can be said about practically any movie.

I don't think anyone see's the twists in SAW coming a mile away. I think they read the spoilers or someone tells them what happens, and they play it as if they knew it all along.

I don't care what anyone says, the twists in SAW have been unpredictable and no one knew what was going to happen, especially in the first one.

 

[lordofthenerds]

Hence my point, movies geared toward hardcore horror fans don't really feel the need to cut away from things that people will find too upsetting, nor should they.

Well, in that case, it was a little to hardcore for me. To each his own I guess.

 

[The Dark Defender]

Exactly, and I can understand perfectly that there are people that can't handle/just don't like that type of brutality. Movies like this aren't made for everyone, they're geared toward a very specific audience, which is a big part of why I love them.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Exactly, and I can understand perfectly that there are people that can't handle/just don't like that type of brutality. Movies like this aren't made for everyone, they're geared toward a very specific audience, which is a big part of why I love them.

Why? It's not like it's any different from any other horror film, you know? Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre all have their brutal violent moments.

 

[The Dark Defender]

Yes, and they're decades old. As I said earlier, the market has been flooded with PG-13 ghost flicks cashing in on the success of The Ring. The genre was in need of brutal, uncompromising horror for horror fans, and the SAW series are exactly the type of films that are saving the genre.

 

[Fran]

I agree, SP. Totally

 

[CrypticOne]

I just seen Saw 3 last night, and it was a pretty good movie. I liked it and the only thing lame about it were the previews in the beginning. I give it a 8/10.

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I just don't see another Saw without Jigsaw in it. Unless the next is a prequel. I was glad that Amanda died because she wasn't following the rules. I liked the ending when Jigsaw explains everything. The best trap for me was The Rake, that is one of the worst ways to go out. Great twists and a good story.

 

[KenK]

I don't think anyone see's the twists in SAW coming a mile away. I think they read the spoilers or someone tells them what happens, and they play it as if they knew it all along.

I don't care what anyone says, the twists in SAW have been unpredictable and no one knew what was going to happen, especially in the first one.

I thought I had it figured out, and I was definitedly caught by surprise.

 

[Matt]

Hence my point, movies geared toward hardcore horror fans don't really feel the need to cut away from things that people will find too upsetting, nor should they.

Correction good horror films don't need to disturb viewers to scare them. Good horror films know, the less you see, the better.

 

[Matt]

Jigsaw is a preacy character, so I thought it worked fine, and I loved the messages that they were preaching.

Jigsaw killing to teach the meaning of life is one thing. Jigsaw lecturing on forgiveness is cheesey.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Jigsaw killing to teach the meaning of life is one thing. Jigsaw lecturing on forgiveness is cheesey.

What Jigsaw was explaining that some should be able to let go and forgive without having so much vengeance and hatred in their hearts.

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He knew Jeff would kill him and fail his test, so his lecturing wasn't all that cheesy when you think about it.

I think what Jigsaw was explaining is that you don't want to be like him. John could never live a peaceful life, he sees others take life for granted and no matter what his work would never stop, as there is always someone who is ungrateful for their good life.

 

[Matt]

What Jigsaw was explaining that some should be able to let go and forgive without having so much vengeance and hatred in their hearts.

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He knew Jeff would kill him and fail his test, so his lecturing wasn't all that cheesy when you think about it.

I think what Jigsaw was explaining is that you don't want to be like him. John could never live a peaceful life, he sees others take life for granted and no matter what his work would never stop, as there is always someone who is ungrateful for their good life.

I understood it, I don't get why you and Stormy keep trying to explain the movie to people who didn't like it. I got it just fine. I just thought it was too preachy.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

I understood it, I don't get why you and Stormy keep trying to explain the movie to people who didn't like it. I got it just fine. I just thought it was too preachy.

We're not. But if you can't see that Jigsaw is a preachy character and that Saw is a preachy film in itself, then we can't help you.

Saw 1 and 2 were pretty preachy themselves, especially with Jigsaw talking to Matthews at his lair. So how is it cheesy now and it's not cheesy then?

Spoiler

What was the audiences reaction when Matthews crushed his foot and broke it? The audience in my theater screamed and a couple behind me screamed "HOLY ****!"

 

[The Dark Defender]

Correction good horror films don't need to disturb viewers to scare them. Good horror films know, the less you see, the better.

That's not a correction, it's just a viewpoint.
Less is more can work, but so can no holds barred gore. There are plenty of terrible horror films with no gore, and plenty of terrible horror films with it. It's just one factor; and not all horror films are meant to be scary, some are meant more to disturb. Different horror films have different purposes.
Those that feel less is more is the key to a good horror movie probably shouldn't bother watching horror films that are labeled as "Rated R for strong gruesome violence and gore."

 

[The Dark Defender]

I understood it, I don't get why you and Stormy keep trying to explain the movie to people who didn't like it. I got it just fine. I just thought it was too preachy.

Perhaps you do, but I've read comments from plenty of people that clearly didn't(and I don't base that just on their dislike if, they make comments that clearly show they missed the point).

 

[The Dark Defender]

Jigsaw killing to teach the meaning of life is one thing. Jigsaw lecturing on forgiveness is cheesey.

He wasn't killing to teach the meaning of life, he wasn't try to kill; and his lecturing on forgiveness fit just fine with his outlook throughout the films.

 

[ultimatefan]

Jigsaw has become the big slasher freak of the new millennium, the more intellectual comrade of Jason, Michael Myers and Scream.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Michael- ::wakes up confused in a mysterious place::

Jigsaw- Hello Michael. I want to play a game. For years you were a ruthless killing machine and were unstoppable. Until Halloween Ressurection was released and you became the whipping boy of Busta Rhymes. You are locked inside of a farm with a mine counting down inside of your body, you have to disarm it yourself. Live or die Michael. Make your choice.

 

[Bishop2]

He wasn't killing to teach the meaning of life, he wasn't try to kill; and his lecturing on forgiveness fit just fine with his outlook throughout the films.

Jigsaw is kidding himself when he claims that he's not really a killer - that's part of what's so great about this movie, I feel... as I discussed in my review a couple of pages back, it fully exposed what hypocrites he and Amanda both were. For all their supposed moral superiority, they are the ultimate sinners, breaking their own "rules" and going back on their own stances all the time... that's what makes 'em so damn evil.

 

[The Dark Defender]

Jigsaw is kidding himself when he claims that he's not really a killer - that's part of what's so great about this movie, I feel... as I discussed in my review a couple of pages back, it fully exposed what hypocrites he and Amanda both were. For all their supposed moral superiority, they are the ultimate sinners, breaking their own "rules" and going back on their own stances all the time... that's what makes 'em so damn evil.

That's one way of looking at it.

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I do love that he would rather have Amanda, who he loves just as much as the average man loves his girlfriend/wife, who he wants to carry on his legacy after he dies, die with him than carry on his work in what he feels is a completely wrong way by making it punishment instead of attempted redemption, and it breaks his heart. I saw where both Amanda and John were coming from, which is what I love about the movie.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Playing in 3,167 theatres Saw III grossed an estimated $34,300,000 on its opening weekend. With a production budget of $12 million, the film is considered a box office success. Saw 3 is currently in the first position on the box office charts, overgrossing The Departed and The Prestige by almost 25 million.

 

[Jack Bauer]

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What was the audiences reaction when Matthews crushed his foot and broke it? The audience in my theater screamed and a couple behind me screamed "HOLY ****!"

I think along with myself and maybe a few other audience members groan when we saw that. Plus the theater had a very loud speaker so when that happened you heard it clearly and loudly.