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Matt said:
Correction good horror films don't need to disturb viewers to scare them. Good horror films know, the less you see, the better.


Thank you! The skull scene in Saw 3 was the goriest waste of 10 minutes I've ever seen. Seriously, that's when I knew that Saw 3 crossed the line of entertainment and headed into just trash.
 
It wasn't pointless, it showed a big part of what's sparking Amanda's breakdown. She was having to watch her mentor, the person that she loves like no other suffer horribly; and it didn't last anywhere near 10 minutes.
It also fit in with Lynn's portion of the story.
 
Stormyprecious said:
It wasn't pointless, it showed a big part of what's sparking Amanda's breakdown. She was having to watch her mentor, the person that she loves like no other suffer horribly; and it didn't last anywhere near 10 minutes.
It also fit in with Lynn's portion of the story.

It was pointless, much like most of the violence in the movie. The first two Saws knew where to draw the line. This one just didn't. There comes a point where the violence is distracting. You could've cut half of that scene.
 
Matt said:
It was pointless, much like most of the violence in the movie. The first two Saws knew where to draw the line. This one just didn't. There comes a point where the violence is distracting. You could've cut half of that scene.

It wasn't pointless as I just clearly explained the point. Like I said earlier, all this talk about going over the line is unintentionally complimenting the film.
 
Stormyprecious said:
It wasn't pointless as I just clearly explained the point. Like I said earlier, all this talk about going over the line is unintentionally complimenting the film.

I get that, but it shows how weak the film makers are. you shouldn't have to use violence as a crutch. And it was pointless. You could've had the same effect without a powersaw and drill being shoved in a guy's head for five minutes. They could've toned it down.
 
Matt said:
It was pointless, much like most of the violence in the movie. The first two Saws knew where to draw the line. This one just didn't. There comes a point where the violence is distracting. You could've cut half of that scene.

:woot:
 
Matt said:
I get that, but it shows how weak the film makers are. you shouldn't have to use violence as a crutch. And it was pointless. You could've had the same effect without a powersaw and drill being shoved in a guy's head for five minutes. They could've toned it down.

It shows nothing of the kind, not holding back doesn't show weak filmmaking just as holding back doesn't show strong filmmaking, and it's not a crutch. If you want toned down violence, you shouldn't go to films that rated R for strong gruesome violence and gore.
 
Stormyprecious said:
It shows nothing of the kind, not holding back doesn't show weak filmmaking just as holding back doesn't show strong filmmaking, and it's not a crutch. If you want toned down violence, you shouldn't go to films that rated R for strong gruesome violence and gore.

It was very much so used as a crutch in Saw III. In Saw II and Saw I they drew a line and didn't need to cross it as the characters were compelling enough to get you through the movie. This one really wasn't. The development on everyone but Jigsaw and Amanda was rushed and lacking, thus, they relied on assinine, over the top death traps.

Of course, this is all a matter of opinion so we will simply have to agree to disagree.
 
Matt said:
It was very much so used as a crutch in Saw III. In Saw II and Saw I they drew a line and didn't need to cross it as the characters were compelling enough to get you through the movie. This one really wasn't. The development on everyone but Jigsaw and Amanda was rushed and lacking, thus, they relied on assinine, over the top death traps.

Of course, this is all a matter of opinion so we will simply have to agree to disagree.

It wasn't so much a crutch as a storytelling device, which is what violence is just as suspense is.
The movie is all about Amanda and John's relationship, the only development the supporting characters needed was enough to know why John/Amanda picked them.
 
It occurs to me that, from what Amanda says towards the end, she's actually rather right.

In the end, she says that nobody ever changes - in fact, the lack of change from Williams seems to be what drove her to remove the possibility of escape from the equation. Based on the evidence, it's true - everyone who survives Jigsaw's tests doesn't actually change.

Amanda's still engaged in self-destructive behavior, even if it's of a different sort. Jeff still lusted for revenge, even though, again, it's a different kind. Even Williams remained a guy with a taste for violence and a vaguely misogynistic streak, although I suppose the context might've naturally caused that to come out.

Ultimately, his tests don't really cause any kind of self-revelation.
 
Guess what? Even though the original creators said they're done with the series, you KNEW this was inevitable...

I'm sure you saw it on ComingSoon:

Lionsgate Planning Saw IV for Halloween '07

Source: The Associated Press
October 30, 2006



With Saw III making $34.3 million in its first three days, a record for Lionsgate, the studio is already planning a fourth installment for the same time next year. The Associated Press reports:

Since the low-budget "Saw" debuted with $18.3 million over the same weekend two years ago, Lionsgate has turned the franchise into an annual ritual with quickly produced sequels each Halloween.

The movies follow the diabolical schemes of psycho killer Jigsaw (Tobin Bell), who stages elaborate, bloody games to test the moral fiber of his victims. Lionsgate plans to have "Saw IV" in theaters over Halloween weekend next year.

Saw II earned $31.7 million its first weekend.

Oh boy...
 
Oddly enough, I wanted to call him stupid, but I thought it would be considered tacky.

In Summary, having silly opinions is what makes someone silly.
 
Darren Daring said:
Stormyprecious is amazingly silly. It boggles me.

Amazingly might be a bit much. But kinda silly, perhaps.

Suddenly a dangling question strikes me... will we ever find out what was in Amanda's envelope? Tsk.
 
LastSunrise1981 said:
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Michael- ::wakes up confused in a mysterious place::

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Jigsaw- Hello Michael. I want to play a game. For years you were a ruthless killing machine and were unstoppable. Until Halloween Ressurection was released and you became the whipping boy of Busta Rhymes. You are locked inside of a farm with a mine counting down inside of your body, you have to disarm it yourself. Live or die Michael. Make your choice.

LOL. Good one.
 
Bishop2 said:
Amazingly might be a bit much. But kinda silly, perhaps.

Suddenly a dangling question strikes me... will we ever find out what was in Amanda's envelope? Tsk.

That's what has been bothering me somewhat. I wonder if the prequel/sequel will elaborate on it?

I'm still trying to come up with an answer as to what was in the envelope.
 
The original cut of the movie ran for over three hours, the only scene that has been confirmed to be cut out was a brutal fight scene between Amanda (Shawnee Smith) and Lynn (Bahar Soomekh), as it was shown being filmed on Much on Demand.
 
LastSunrise1981 said:
The original cut of the movie ran for over three hours, the only scene that has been confirmed to be cut out was a brutal fight scene between Amanda (Shawnee Smith) and Lynn (Bahar Soomekh), as it was shown being filmed on Much on Demand.

Over three hours, really? And the final cut doesn't even run fricking TWO?

Where'd you hear the bit about three hours?

I'm curious to see if they'll do an "unrated" DVD. I'd also like to know what was cut/inserted from/into the unrated DVD of the first.
 
Bousman said it was originally slated for a 2 hour 16 minute theatrical release but after MPAA trimmings for the rating and LG trimmings to get the running time down to where they could get as many screenings in per day as they wanted, it was down around 107 minutes.
 
Bishop2 said:
I'm curious to see if they'll do an "unrated" DVD. I'd also like to know what was cut/inserted from/into the unrated DVD of the first.

There is no doubt about that. It'll probably be out right before Saw IV hits theaters.
 

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