The Official Superman Casting & Discussion Thread

[daywalker2007]

a few points for people to consider.

SR has given the current generation its Superman and that is Routh. Wherever Routh goes, people refer to him as Superman and thats a fact which WB cannot deny.

I see no reason why Routh cannot continue in this supposed "standalone" Nolan produced Superman movie.

The potential with Routh is that they could have more than 4 or 5 Superman movies with him easily, regardless of who the director may be, etc, (That is if they plan to make each movie a standalone story, and not rely on a sequel aspect or a sudden cliffhanger.). Every few years, a new Superman movie could be made with Routh, regardless if a new director is in charge or not. They just have to ensure quality control.

and besides, all these lot saying that because its a reboot or reintroduction, that Routh cannot be cast again are obviously living in cuckoo land.

You do realise that in Iron Man, one of the main characters was recast, and Don Cheadle took over the role, even though he looks nothing like Terence Howard at all, yet the General audiences accepted it.

The same with Katie Holmes and Maggie Gyllenhall, most general audiences couldn't give a donkey's ass why the actor was replaced, they just accept it and get on with it.

and now the same with the Hulk, Mark Ruffalo looks nothing like Ed Norton, yet is taking over his role.

You get my drift?

With those casting rules in mind, I see no reason why Routh cannot continue. If general audiences can accept a different looking person as a character, surely they would be able to accept Routh in a new Superman movie, even if other cast members have changed??

Its only fanboys who seem to cry at this apparently ridiculous concept.

Having Routh continue as Superman is actually less risky than having someone entirely different, given the amount of merchandise floating around the world where Routh's face is plastered everywhere.

We are now in a unique situation which has never happened before,
where the lead actor for Superman is by far the best current choice. It took WB years to get Superman off the ground, they finally found a great choice, and because they weren't happy with that movie (which they were happy to pump 200 million into by the way) they decide to dump Routh?

Keep these points in mind people.

 

[daywalker2007]

1. The guys only 5'11"
2. He 39, but looks too be in his mid to late 40s.
3. IMO he just don't have the right look for Superman.





Yes the actor who plays Superman has got to be able to act. But he's also got to have the look and IMHO Hamm don't got it.

Hamm has a good look for an older Clark Kent, but thats about it. He looks far older than his 39 years suggest.

Keanu Reeves is nearing 50, yet he looks much younger than Hamm.

There's a difference between looking mature and simply looking old, which is what Hamm is. Hamm is looking old these days.

Imagine a second Superman film with Hamm in it. Lois might end up looking like his daughter.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

Superman is one of those roles where it isn't smart to cast unconventional, like Keaton, Ledger etc..

Batman, Joker etc didn't have that HUGE physical component like Thor, Hercules, Conan ... to meet.


As far as the Hamm situation goes, I'd lose faith because it proves they wouldn't have paid a cent for the casting process this time around and didn't put any effort into doing a nation-wide search (like last time and for Reeve). Superman deserves that, especially now.

IF Superman NEEDS to be recast, it needs to be done with effort. Thankfully, VERY VERY strong chance Hamm won't be in the final running, not even close.

This is the equivalent of them looking at Gosling and Affleck for GL, Harnett for Superman in 2003 etc... It's just a studio thing early in the game.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I keep coming back to this thread looking for new Superman Casting suggestions...

... and yet, no matter what the rules keep stating, all people wanna talk about is Routh... or Plot points... or whether Superman should be tough in this movie.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

 

[db85usa]

Superman is one of those roles where it isn't smart to cast unconventional, like Keaton, Ledger etc..

Batman, Joker etc didn't have that HUGE physical component like Thor, Hercules, Conan ... to meet.


As far as the Hamm situation goes, I'd lose faith because it proves they wouldn't have paid a cent for the casting process this time around and didn't put any effort into doing a nation-wide search (like last time and for Reeve). Superman deserves that, especially now.

IF Superman NEEDS to be recast, it needs to be done with effort. Thankfully, VERY VERY strong chance Hamm won't be in the final running, not even close.

This is the equivalent of them looking at Gosling and Affleck for GL, Harnett for Superman in 2003 etc... It's just a studio thing early in the game.

Ok, but that's YOUR opinion. Whoever is cast, there will be a general disappointment because not everyone can be pleased. So, you don't like Hamm and that's fine but aren't there other people who can voice their suggestions on who they like too? Some people can see Supes in him just like you can in Walsh but not everyone can picture Walsh as Superman, either.

There is no casting call right now and as far as we know, there's no short list either nor is there any kind of requirement that WB is looking for at the moment (American born, certain height, etc.) So it's a casting war among fans, us, so that means that right now, Hamm has just as much of a chance as any other actor's name listed in the thread.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

Showtime already said it won't be Hamm.

I buy it. For films like this, it's never the guy they're 'looking at' this early on.


He also said don't take seriously most of the names we'll be hearing at this stage of the game.. all types are going to 'read' for this. When we start to get into screentests later in the game, then things will matter.

 

[betamox]

Yeah that's what people said about Keaton, Nicholson, Maguire, Ledger, etc. I really don't care who they cast per se. But it's fun to speculate and to try and picture actors who could play Superman. When Nolan was looking for an actor to play Bats he chose Bale because, "He has exactly the balance of darkness and light that we were looking for" said Christopher Nolan.

So as long as Chris' brilliance continues to be the force behind this whole project then I have faith who ever is cast -- there will be a pretty good reason why.

Not to be contrary but i feel that all 4 of the actors you mentioned were actually well suited for those roles they played.

But this is Superman we're talking about and i guess i for one am not willing to overlook his (Hamm's) agedness and puny stature just because he might be above average when it comes to acting .

 

[betamox]

As an "unknown", it's really too bad Scott Adkins is only 5'11". He has the look and build. Decent actor and right age at 34. Just needs the larger stature.

Now you see to me someone like this guy is a step in the right direction
after checking him out i could see it too ! That tells me if he's out there their are other hiddens gems too ! But who knows what the thought process is we've heard all kinds of stuff already so far !

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I like him!

Seems bulky enough to me!
http://twitchfilm.net/news/uploads/scott-adkins-undisputed-2.jpg

 

[Strider14]

Now you see to me someone like this guy is a step in the right direction
after checking him out i could see it too ! That tells me if he's out there their are other hiddens gems too ! But who knows what the thought process is we've heard all kinds of stuff already so far !

I just watched Ninja last night and was pleasantly surprised that he wasn't your typical martial artist/actor, he showed a good range of emotions and acting range within the film. He is built and cut...just too short for my taste, but definitely better for Superman than Hamm.

Like you said, that means there are other relatively unknowns out there. Just give me one that is at least 6'2" with the same kind of build.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

He was brought up before, many times in the older threads.

He got dismissed for being:

1) Not American

2) Only 5"11

3) a stunt actor (was Weapon XI in Wolverine), though his actual acting isnt that bad.

Clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htZFTyGpIdc


I'd prefer Supes to have a build like BR currently. Anything significantly bigger (like Mike O'Hearn) and it would be impossible disguising him as Clark.

 

[Young Superman]

a few points for people to consider.

SR has given the current generation its Superman and that is Routh. Wherever Routh goes, people refer to him as Superman and thats a fact which WB cannot deny.

I see no reason why Routh cannot continue in this supposed "standalone" Nolan produced Superman movie.

The potential with Routh is that they could have more than 4 or 5 Superman movies with him easily, regardless of who the director may be, etc, (That is if they plan to make each movie a standalone story, and not rely on a sequel aspect or a sudden cliffhanger.). Every few years, a new Superman movie could be made with Routh, regardless if a new director is in charge or not. They just have to ensure quality control.

and besides, all these lot saying that because its a reboot or reintroduction, that Routh cannot be cast again are obviously living in cuckoo land.

You do realise that in Iron Man, one of the main characters was recast, and Don Cheadle took over the role, even though he looks nothing like Terence Howard at all, yet the General audiences accepted it.

The same with Katie Holmes and Maggie Gyllenhall, most general audiences couldn't give a donkey's ass why the actor was replaced, they just accept it and get on with it.

and now the same with the Hulk, Mark Ruffalo looks nothing like Ed Norton, yet is taking over his role.

You get my drift?

With those casting rules in mind, I see no reason why Routh cannot continue. If general audiences can accept a different looking person as a character, surely they would be able to accept Routh in a new Superman movie, even if other cast members have changed??

Its only fanboys who seem to cry at this apparently ridiculous concept.

Having Routh continue as Superman is actually less risky than having someone entirely different, given the amount of merchandise floating around the world where Routh's face is plastered everywhere.

We are now in a unique situation which has never happened before,
where the lead actor for Superman is by far the best current choice. It took WB years to get Superman off the ground, they finally found a great choice, and because they weren't happy with that movie (which they were happy to pump 200 million into by the way) they decide to dump Routh?

Keep these points in mind people.

Agreed

 

[ChickenScratch]

I love Scott Adkins! I've got every movie he's ever been in on DVD, he's one of the new crop of martial arts stars, plus he's in a lot of Florentine's movies and I love that dude as a director.

I don't see him as superman, but he would be a brutal Batman.

 

[Lead Cenobite]

I agree



What I like about Manganiello is that he has a more roughed look than the other names that keeps popping out, and it would be a different approach than the other versions of the character we have seen (in live action) so far, and its a side that its recurrent in comics

And when I see Joe, I see a Superman that can be tough, but gentle, it reminds me of teh superman from the John Bryne and Dan Jurgens era (he looks a bit like superman from birthright)

You know, the Birthright Superman actually reminds me of Claude from GTA III.

 

[Young Superman]

Has this been posted? http://www.**************.com/fansites/SFTS/news/?a=21162

 

[Kryptonian Warrior]

Has this been posted? http://www.**************.com/fansites/SFTS/news/?a=21162

Yeah, it was posted yesterday. I believe that Jamie has already debunked this, although I am not 100% sure, but yeah, it came out yesterday morning.

Edit: I was reading back a few pages and he or nobody has exactly dismissed the article. Showtime said ".....but this report, meh".

I personally don't like the choice, if it turns out to be true. I just wish they would select "you know who" and be done with it. Since we can't say his name, I won't.

 

[That-Guy]

ATTENTION ROUTH FANS

I know that you think he's the perfect Superman, or at least was good enough to be given another shot. I also understand that we don't have any 100% solid proof that he won't be in this new Superman movie. However, Routh has his own thread. He's had it for a while. If you want to talk about him, please do so in there. The posts in this thread are getting really annoying.

 

[Kryptonian Warrior]

ATTENTION ROUTH FANS

I know that you think he's the perfect Superman, or at least was good enough to be given another shot. I also understand that we don't have any 100% solid proof that he won't be in this new Superman movie. However, Routh has his own thread. He's had it for a while. If you want to talk about him, please do so in there. The posts in this thread are getting really annoying.

YES SIR MR. THAT-GUY!!! I guess that means that I'm not even allowed to come in here, since I have "his" name in my name and all. Get over yourself, man. Plus you said his name in a thread where his name is to never be mentioned, so I guess you disobeyed they rule, too. I'm sure that I will get reprimanded, but whatever.

 

[ChickenScratch]

ATTENTION ROUTH FANS

I know that you think he's the perfect Superman, or at least was good enough to be given another shot. I also understand that we don't have any 100% solid proof that he won't be in this new Superman movie. However, Routh has his own thread. He's had it for a while. If you want to talk about him, please do so in there. The posts in this thread are getting really annoying.

LOL. Maybe you should edit our posts too.

 

[GreenKToo]

Call me cuckoo then, because if its a reboot, reintroduction, a new take, whatever, then I would like a new actor.
If and when wb says Hamm is no longer in the running, then i'll stop supporting him, but until then he's my guy.

 

[Comicfan]

Ok, but that's YOUR opinion. Whoever is cast, there will be a general disappointment because not everyone can be pleased. So, you don't like Hamm and that's fine but aren't there other people who can voice their suggestions on who they like too? Some people can see Supes in him just like you can in Walsh but not everyone can picture Walsh as Superman, either.

There is no casting call right now and as far as we know, there's no short list either nor is there any kind of requirement that WB is looking for at the moment (American born, certain height, etc.) So it's a casting war among fans, us, so that means that right now, Hamm has just as much of a chance as any other actor's name listed in the thread.

Well, I think there is a good chance the actor that would en cast as Superman, would be one that in the end wasn't mentioned here

In the mean time, we keep campaigning for our favorite choices

 

[Young Superman]

I'm getting really tired of people trying to defend smaller/shorter actors like Bomer or Hamm for Superman, by bringing up Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark. It's a completely different situation with Stark, height is not a big part of his character. He wears a suit of armor and that's where he gets his powers. Supermam on the hand has been portrayed as a tall/muscular man since nearly the beginning, height and a muscular buid are a big part of Superman's character. He has to be physically imposing. We all know the yellow sun gives him his powers but it also made him tall and muscular

 

[Kryptonian Warrior]

I'm getting really tired of people trying to defend smaller/shorter actors like Bomer or Hamm for Superman, by bringing up Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark. It's a completely different situation with Stark, height is not a big part of his character. He wears a suit of armor and that's where he gets his powers. Supermam on the hand has been portrayed as a tall/muscular man since nearly the beginning, height and a muscular buid are a big part of Superman's character. He has to be physically imposing. We all know the yellow sun gives him his powers but it also made him tall and muscular

I don't know about all that now, but it is the way that he has been portrayed throughout the years, in the comics. Unless I am missing something here.





Oh and by the way..........ROUTH

 

[Young Superman]

He's still that way in the comics