The Official Tom Welling for Superman Campaign Thread!!!

[Webhead2006]

were did that qoute about SR2 come from or did u just make it up yourself.

 

[phil]

SV gets a pass for everything because whenever you bring up the faults of SV Clark they always say well he isn't Superman yet or well this is TV it should be different standards for a movie. Now I do like SV and think it is a good series but I hate how people like to think the can judge one thing but then say their series gets a pass all because its on TV or because he isn't Superman yet but then can go that's Superman about the other stuff. Either he is your Superman which means he can be compared to all the other Superman's or he isn't.

Superman is Superman, when he's a teenager just turning 20 he's still young and still thinks like a someone that age. There is a huge difference between an established Superman and a kid before he becomes Superman. Anyone goes through major changes in the way they think as they mature from 20 to 25 and even more from 25 to 30 and more from 30 to 35 as so on, thats reality. There is NO comparison. And yes a weekly TV show is different then a one time big budget movie with an established adult to a teenager and that's a fact! My god please stop acting like there isn't a difference. i can't understand that for the life of me.

 

[phil]

I LOVE the way Routh delivered that line....absolutely love it, very old school. In fact, he did a great job at delivering his lines and at emoting the emotion in all his scenes, IMO. The only scene he was mediocre, imo, is his scene with Ma Kent, but I still like it, just not as much as the rest of his scenes. He really blew me away. Sorry you didn't like him, Phil, but I never expected you to......it's so obvious why.

And on the stalking part, well, I understand the scene in a very different way than you, clearly. By the way, how did you feel when Clark in Smallville was kissing a married Lana? Please tell me.



Word.

Let's get something clear here. I think your a cool guy so I'm not trying to put you down when I don't agree with you. If Wellings not Superman then who gives a flying F. As long as the guy does the part justice. I've said that over and over. But don't sit there and f'n tell me I'm giving an opinion just because of another subject, the acting sucks, no ifs ands about it, it was cheesy as hell. I don't say things to be a friggin p----- and hide behind my computer, I say it because it's exactly how I feel.

 

[phil]

Because that's the burden he took on once he became Smallville's Clark Kent. He can't escape it.

If people see Welling in a Superman costume they're going to always think he's the Clark who grew up on the tv show. He can't stop that. It's already done.

If SV's mythos doesn't come with Welling there is no point for him to be in the role at all. They can get someone else for Superman and not only would it be much easier for the audience to understand it's not connected to SV, no-one thought Routh's was, but they won't be burdened by SV presence hanging over the movie.



There are many different versions of Superman. Even in the same mediums. Some act different from others. They're all unique in their little ways.

It doesn't matter if Welling's Kent becomes Superman he's always going to be tied to SVs mythos. SV's history won't just disappear once he puts the costume on.



Smallville isn't going to be an after thought if Welling or any actors from SV show up. They're identified with SV forever with it just like Routh, Spacey and Bosworth are with SR.




I've already explained how it can do that without taking over the film franchise. Smallville can have its own movies where that Clark becomes Superman. They could even do a new spin-off tv show with Welling as Superman that picks off after Smallville ends.

The GP could care less about a weekly TV show while watching a big budget in your face action movie. And so what if they did? The movies story doesn't have to mention a single story line from SV to show Superman being Superman. you guys act like the whole GP knows everyhting about SV and will hang on every line and compare it, no way.

 

[The Major]

Phil:

People don't need to watch the show to know Welling plays Superman on it.

Putting him in a Superman movie not connected to Smallville would seriously confuse anyone who sees the film then watches Smallville only to realize SV Clark is nothing the Superman Welling plays in a film.

There is no point in using any of the SV cast unless they're connected to the show.

This boosts SV but the Superman films don't gain much from it.

Exactly why is SV having its own seperate tv/dvd movies where Welling becomes Superman, but not connected to the Superman films, such a bad thing? There is no downside with that.

Welling gets to play Superman while people who don't like SV get our own Superman in the films to watch.

 

[phil]

You guys are the ones with these ideas that will ad confusion. We should have one person being Superman on the big screen. There is no way in hell Routh cuts the mustard, forget about that obvious mishap. You don't have to seraparate Welling in a TV movie automatically because he was on a weekly TV show, LOL It should either be Welling on the big screen because he's more than proved himself next to all the other actors or simply a guy who looks the part and is believable as Superman. No more of this feminine crap with high school quality acting, this is a live action big budget Superman.

There have been enough films out there that come from TV shows that aren't exactly the same as the shows themselves. In TDK there's a new Rachel, is the GP going to crap themselves and forget who they are for a half hour just because it's not the same girl? Hell no, you guys are reading way too much into these things because your big fans. There are some fans out there that just won't stop crying acting like the GP hangs on everything with Superman and he should be treated like a special character because he's in a "special" movie. The GP isn't that stupid! They don't care what a weekly TV show is to a big budget film and most of them could care less that this guy also played the part in TV. The GP just wants to see something well done on that day at the movies period and enjoy a soda bigger than their head and a box of popcorn! End of story! Just because the TV show may have a different actor they are not going to cry and walk out, my god I can't believe I even reply to that stupid crap.
That show isn't about the role playing Superman, it's about his early years before he even knows himself he's Superman. The GP could care less if it's separated in that way and there is some different faces playing parts, this HAPPENS ALL THE TIME, MOVIES ARE FAKE NOT REAL. The ONLY people that will care are the diehard fans but what is the problem? Just because Superman if fighting a villain does the camera have to stop the actor look at the camera and say "I wasn't actually in the TV show but I am connected to it because...." or stop and a voice says "if you've ever watched the TV show SV this character was played by a different actor and is now being played by..." C'mon, jesus this whole internet thing is so friggin sick and in it's own world it isn't even funny.
Of course people are going to know it's not the same Clark as SV because it isn't, if they EVEN REALIZE IT AT ALL OR IF IT EVEN MATTERS! because he will have a nice big red cape and have an "s" on his chest wearing underpants outside his spandex fighting crime out in the open under a different name!
As long as he's believable as Superman in that version they WILL NOT CARE! If Routh was believable as Superman and SR was any good I'd be all for Routh being Superman no matter if I like him personally or not. When you watch a Rocky movie do they dwell on his childhood? This is just crazy, people need to wake up and smell the friggin coffee.


Okay, sorry for flipping out, it doesn't mean I don't like some of you and would have a drink and a few laughs out of Fantasy Land.

 

[Mike22]

I ablsolutely love it, when the SR lovers start talking about smallville.
On one hand the smallville haters, which a lot of the time just happen to be SR lovers, openly and with such passion express how they feel that smallville sucks and how they think the show is sooo bad and hate it so much and take every opportunity to trash it and put it down. But when it comes to talks about Welling being big screen superman, they make a huge ass U-turn and start talking about how the show has such a large impact on the people that watch the show, that they are so incredibly ******ed and dimwitted that they couldn`t possibly figure out that an actor can play the same character in two different stories. The very "special" fans around here are treating the general audience as if they were a bunch of ******ed morons. And I think that`s judgemental and wrong.
But what I think is really going on is that a handfull of people hang on so strongly with nails and claws to their beloved Routh and want him to keep his status as superman so badly that they`re willing to do just about anything to keep it that way.

How people can come to this conclusion is what`s confusing. Because as Phil said...You guys are reading to damn much into this because you`re huge fans. Huge enough fans to come here day after day and discuss every aspect of the character. I don`t see the 4-5 million people that watch smallville coming here and doing the same. Because they don`t care. They come home from a long day at work and tune in to the show they find entertaining. There`s far more to life than watching a show about young Clark Kent. People have a lot to deal with, the trials and tribulations of life take enough of their time as it is, so at the end of the day they sit down and watch something to relax and take their minds of their daily routines. By the time the weekend comes they just wanna a fun night out to take a load of and enjoy themselves. And I seriously doubt it that the average smallville fan that goes to see a movie where Welling is superman will pull his hair out because he`s not playing the same version of the character. I don`t wanna put anyone down, but it`s just about one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard.
I know that fans like to pretend that they know more thant they really do, but damn it, this is just plain ridiculous.

Let me tell you all what`s really gonna happen.
Thr WB will carefully consider their options and go with what they think is the most profitable option. There`s a lot to consider.
If they feel that SR is the best way to go, then they will go that direction, if they feel a reboot is more appopriate then they`ll do that.
This is very simple basic stuff. Doesn`t matter one way or the other what anybody around here thinks. We all know the WB don`t give an F about the fans and never will.
They go where the money is, and since SR was a dissapointment to them on that front...well, that`s why it`s been two years an no sequel.

 

[Nightwing1977]

hopefully if singer does stay and wb goes with him for MOS they can fix some of the mistakes they did with SR. Personally it would be nice for a reboot film but yea its less likely that will happen we can hope but who knows. Yea they probably would end up going with singer again to try to make a buck off that property then going with a unknown set up.

I agree. They can fix some mistake. Singer fixed X-Men with X2, so I'm sure he can do the same for Supes. He clearly mention it will be less romance, more action, less money to make, using his own vision this time than another Donner's homage, etc. That sound like a Superman film many wanted.

I think your a cool guy so I'm not trying to put you down when I don't agree with you.

Uh...MostPowerful is a girl. Heh! Many still continue to think she is a guy with her screen name.

 

[phil]

Sorry about that MostPowerful, didn't know you were a girl.

 

[Webhead2006]

Yea as i mentioned before personally i rather see them reboot supes then go with singer again but if he can fix some of the mistakes he made with SR i will see the film and then judge to see if i like or dislike it. But yea it all really counts on what wb sees is the better option to go and which could give them the bigger profit and all that. Either singer mos, mos with new director, or reboot we wont know for sure untill wb comes out officially with their plans of supes and all that.

 

[The Major]

I ablsolutely love it, when the SR lovers start talking about smallville.

Insulting people in your first sentence isn't a good way to get posters to agree with you.

On one hand the smallville haters, which a lot of the time just happen to be SR lovers, openly and with such passion express how they feel that smallville sucks and how they think the show is sooo bad and hate it so much and take every opportunity to trash it and put it down.

I may not like it but I don't hate it.

The complaints I bought up were based on fact. I wasn't making anything up.

Nor was I defending Routh's stalking Superman actions in SR which I was put off by.

I'm not even a "SR lover" as you so aptly described. While I liked the film it isn't my favorite version of Superman. I've even critiqued it at SHH on various posts.

But when it comes to talks about Welling being big screen superman, they make a huge ass U-turn and start talking about how the show has such a large impact on the people that watch the show, that they are so incredibly ******ed and dimwitted that they couldn`t possibly figure out that an actor can play the same character in two different stories.

I wasn't talking about people who just watch the show. You don't need to watch the show to know Welling is Clark on it.

That's going to come up no matter what happens. Welling can't escape it.

The very "special" fans around here are treating the general audience as if they were a bunch of ******ed morons. And I think that`s judgemental and wrong.

Fair enough.

But what I think is really going on is that a handfull of people hang on so strongly with nails and claws to their beloved Routh and want him to keep his status as superman so badly that they`re willing to do just about anything to keep it that way.

Not all of us want Routh. He was a fine Superman but it doesn't bother me if he returns or not.

I just want an actor who can do be a good Superman. I don't think Welling can do that.

How people can come to this conclusion is what`s confusing. Because as Phil said...You guys are reading to damn much into this because you`re huge fans.

That's actually something we have in common. SV fans do seem just as passionate for Welling and SV. There's nothing wrong with that.

Huge enough fans to come here day after day and discuss every aspect of the character.

This is what the forums are here for. To talk about the characters and their movies.

I don`t see the 4-5 million people that watch smallville coming here and doing the same. Because they don`t care. They come home from a long day at work and tune in to the show they find entertaining. There`s far more to life than watching a show about young Clark Kent. People have a lot to deal with, the trials and tribulations of life take enough of their time as it is, so at the end of the day they sit down and watch something to relax and take their minds of their daily routines. By the time the weekend comes they just wanna a fun night out to take a load of and enjoy themselves.

That 4 or 5 million is insignificant to the rest of the fan-base who like Superman. Who will show up to a non-SV based/non-Welling Superman movie.

If they are casual viewers as you suggest then Welling doesn't bring anything to the table Routh or any other actor doesn't.

Routh wasn't even that well known before SR in case you didn't notice. Yet he was still able to be a convincing Superman to not deter people away from it. SR managed to incredibly well with him.

And I seriously doubt it that the average smallville fan that goes to see a movie where Welling is superman will pull his hair out because he`s not playing the same version of the character.

So what?

The films are meant to appeal to more then the SV crowd.

I don`t wanna put anyone down, but it`s just about one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard.
I know that fans like to pretend that they know more thant they really do, but damn it, this is just plain ridiculous.

You're welcome to your opinion.

Let me tell you all what`s really gonna happen.
Thr WB will carefully consider their options and go with what they think is the most profitable option. There`s a lot to consider.
If they feel that SR is the best way to go, then they will go that direction, if they feel a reboot is more appopriate then they`ll do that.
This is very simple basic stuff. Doesn`t matter one way or the other what anybody around here thinks. We all know the WB don`t give an F about the fans and never will.

Of course that's going to happen. No-one's denying that.

It doesn't mean SV has an edge on where the film franchise is going, though.

They go where the money is, and since SR was a dissapointment to them on that front...well, that`s why it`s been two years an no sequel.

SV does bring in some money but does WB consider it good enough to impact the Superman films? We don't know.

What we do know is that SR proved to be a decent hit proving Superman can survive without being connected to SV in any way. It wasn't perfect, of course, it just showed that Superman's character is still loved today. It doesn't need SV to survive. It never has.

Of course, SR wasn't enough to meet WB's expectations. But its not impossible to fix without resorting to Smallville taking over the franchise.

 

[Mike22]

Insulting people in your first sentence isn't a good way to get posters to agree with you..

Post wasn`t directed at you alone, but all of those that bring up the "confused" talk up.
I can`t for the life of me understand how calling someone a SR lover is insulting, that word has been used for two years now. .There are people here that call Welling/smallville fans for he same.
And I honestly don`t care one way or another whether people agree with me or not. I state what`s on my mind, and I don`t expect them to agree with me.
If you were offended, I apologise as it certainly wasn`t my intention. But my previous post was directed at everyone I`ve heard talking about "confused audience" in this place as well as others.

The complaints I bought up were based on fact. I wasn't making anything up.

Look man, I`m not trying to be rude or try to start something, but I could care less if you so desperately feel that having Welling as superman would mean a smallville movie. Nor do I agree with it, by any means possible. Welling can very easily be cast as superman in a reboot version of superman without it have any consequence at all. Nobody`s gonna give a flying.rats.ass as long as the movie is good.
I don`t want a smallville movie, and I never have, that is one thing that that`s just so badly misunderstood. Just Welling for superman on the big screen in a reboot version would have been good enough.

Nor was I defending Routh's stalking Superman actions in SR which I was put off by.

I know you weren`t, and I personally can`t see how anyone can either.

I'm not even a "SR lover" as you so aptly described. While I liked the film it isn't my favorite version of Superman. I've even critiqued it at SHH on various posts.

And I didn`t call you one as the post wasn`t directed at you. You`ve made a lot of assumptions here, wrong ones.
There have been plenty of others here on this thread that have gone all out on Welling and smallville with all kinds of crap, stating their opinions as fact most of the time.

I wasn't talking about people who just watch the show. You don't need to watch the show to know Welling is Clark on it.

I seriously doubt it that the average movie goer is so heavily invested in superman that they ALL know Welling has played YOUNG Clark on tv for years now.

That's going to come up no matter what happens. Welling can't escape it.

YOUR opinion. And because you put a negative twist on it. He hasn`t been playing a fully blown superman with the bluetights and the cape, he`s been playing a young, YOUNG , Clark Kent growing up. Having Welling in a reboot movie has nothing to do with smallville because smallville isn`t about superman as we know him, the Clark in smallville is a Teenager that makes mistakes left and right and trying to learn what his future holds for him. The movie would be Welling if full suit with superman " as we know him"
I don`t know what other way to put this that will make you understand that smallville and superman are two different things. Just because some fans insist that Welling looks and feels so much like superman doesn`t mean that`s the character he`s playing on the show.
He can`t escape it when it comes to people like you (no offense).
And by people like you, I mean avid fans that are heavily invested in the character and feel differently about this than the average movie goer.
You cannot expect for the general audience to feel the same as you do.
And by implying that they care as much as you say they do about this, than that`s just what you`re doing.
You, and a few other die hard fans feel this way about Welling, but unless you have some amazing future telling abilities, than I`m more inclined to believe that if Welling was to be cast as superman in a reboot, that it really wouldn`t be a problem at all. Most certainly not like som of the members here try to make it sound. Nowhere near it.

Fair enough.

I`m glad you`re one of those that can understand this, because so many treat them like brainless idiots that it`s just so damn annoying to a whole new level.
This is why I don`t tend to put much into what I hear on these kind of boards. The opinions (most of the time, not always) are so heavily biased that some people even start talking on behalf of the general audience and in their minds "accurately predict" how they will react to Seeing Welling as superman.

Not all of us want Routh. He was a fine Superman but it doesn't bother me if he returns or not.

Glad to hear.

I just want an actor who can do be a good Superman. I don't think Welling can do that.

I agree very much about getting someone that can be a good superman.
But I respectfully disagree about Welling. I don`t expect you to agree with me by any means, but we all have our image of superman and to me, he`s the one that comes the closest. But that`s just me.
This whole thing with the casting is like a race, all we can do is place out bets, and hope that our choice wins. In the end it`s all about which one you put your money on.

That's actually something we have in common. SV fans do seem just as passionate for Welling and SV. There's nothing wrong with that.

I agree.

This is what the forums are here for. To talk about the characters and their movies

Absolutely.

That 4 or 5 million is insignificant to the rest of the fan-base who like Superman. Who will show up to a non-SV based/non-Welling Superman movie.If they are casual viewers as you suggest then Welling doesn't bring anything to the table Routh or any other actor doesn't.

The millions of people that watch smallville on a regular basias will go see smallville and I think it`s pretty safe to assume that these people would all be very interested in seeing Welling as superman since that`s the goal of the show to show Clarks journey to becoming superman. The smallville audience will most likely all go see the reboot version with Welling without having objections.
Theres are the people that know Welling and his history on tv as young Clark.
But the rest of the general audience that don`t know Smallville history, or know about Welling or his history as Clark, wont really mind or be confused by having Welling as superman because they`re completely unfamiliar with Welling and his past.
This is a win win situation for the WB. They get the smallville viewers and the general audience.

Routh wasn't even that well known before SR in case you didn't notice.

I am fully aware of Rouths past.

Yet he was still able to be a convincing Superman to not deter people away from it. SR managed to incredibly well with him.

Wait wait wait. How convincing Routh was is a discussion for another time in another place, because I don`t agree with it by any means.
And what you`re implying here ( if I understood it right) ist that Welling would alienate people from watching the new superman movie if he was cast??? Is that it?
Just...HOW....HOW??? Those that watch smallville will want to see Welling put the suit on, and those that don`t watch smallville don`t even know of Welling, so they`ll just go see it for superman alone. It`s a win win situation.

So what?
The films are meant to appeal to more then the SV crowd.

I KNOW. That`s what I`ve been saying. Because there are those that keep on with the rather, for the lack of better word "unique" opinion that the audience will be "confused" by having Welling as superman and therefor not watch it. That right there is good enough reason to never listen to what fan boys have to say about anything regarding this whole thing. I`ve never been pleased with the WB and their work on superman, but when I hear some of the fans say things like "the audience will be confused", I`m glad the WB never listens to fans.

It doesn't mean SV has an edge on where the film franchise is going, though.

Ok man, listen to me very carefully, please. Smallville doesn`t have a single thing in the world to do with the theatrical version of superman.
Nothing. It never has, it never will. The new found popularity that smallville found when it started may have helped the WB hurry up to make a new version of superman, but that`s it.
What I`m talking about is Welling, and Welling alone. Not Rosenbaum, not Kreuk, or the rest of the cast. Just Welling. And there have been rumors left and right that the WB did in fact offer the part to Welling but those A-hole producers wouldn`t let him. So at least the WB feel the same as I do about him.
I don`t want a smallville movie, and I never have, but I would have preferred it to that disastrous SR movie we got.
I`m not arguing for a smallville movie. But I`m arguing for what I`ve been fighting for, Welling in a reboot version of superman. NOT a smallville movie.

SV does bring in some money but does WB consider it good enough to impact the Superman films? We don't know.

It doesn`t bring in some, but it brings in a huge amount of money to the WB on DVD sales alone. The show is and has always been a cash cow to the WB. It sells DVD`s as much as the shows that have 3-4 times it`s ratings. Don`t underestimate the value of the smallville audience to the WB. They win a whole lot on this at every angle by casting Welling.
Getting the smallville audience at the movies and then for the DVD sales.
And I`m pretty sure that the large amount of people that have been buying the smallville DVD`s will get that last DVD with Welling as superman to add to their collection.
This is the problem with a few fans that complain so much these days. They`re so preoccupied with trashing Welling and doing everything they can to keep him away from the movies, that they`re forgetting that the WB have a different view on this that makes far more sense to them, business wise.

What we do know is that SR proved to be a decent hit proving Superman can survive without being connected to SV in any way. I-t wasn't perfect, of course, it just showed that Superman's character is still loved today. It doesn't need SV to survive. It never has.

Who ever said it HAS??? Certainly not me, so please stop saying this, I don`t like it, because I never said it, and it has zero to do with me.
Seriously man, you are very very very preoccupied with making sure that smallville and the movies stay far from one another. But it doesn`t make any sense why you`re trying so hard because they already ARE, far from each other..

Of course, SR wasn't enough to meet WB's expectations. But its not impossible to fix without resorting to Smallville taking over the franchise

I`m gonna say this one last time and I REALLY hope you get it.
I never said that movie superman needs smallville to survive. I don`t care who it was that said it to make you so determined to make such a big deal out of what I see as non-existing, but it wasn`t me.
The WB were expecting 500 million dollars and the got 391 million. They were disappointed. Nobody, and I do mean nobody has ever said that smallville should take over with the exception of a few die hard fans, and even they are in a minority, because even smallville fans don`t want a smallville movie.
What happens next in regards to movie superman will depend on a lot of things, but not One of those things have to do with what the fans want.
So I think it would serve you better to not put to much stock into what some of the die hard SR or smallville fans want. Look at what`s more likely to happen from officially released news in stead, it will save you a lot of unnecessary debates.

 

[Mike22]

I'm still so puzzled why people think if Wellings Superman in a movie everything from a TV show has to come with him. When Superman is Superman that's it, he's not going to be hanging out in his loft on the farm anymore. SV will be an afterthought especially to the GP that most could care less about the TV show and never followed it to begin with.
For those who think it has to automatically be a "SV MOVIE" then how are we going to see Superman be Superman because that part had nothing to do with the weekly TV show?

I know, believe me, I often just sit here and shake my head in complete and utter amazement at how some people can come to these way illogical conclusions.
When Smallville ends , it takes it`s story with it. End-of-story.
There will never be a smallville movie, and if it does, it will be developed for tv, not the big screen. What we`re arguing for is big screen superman.
There will be no continuance of smallville in a reboot version of superman. Where the frikkin' hell do people get these ideas?
If smallville had had 20-30 million viewers, than that would have been a reasonable concern to think about. But it has 4-5 million viewers.

The general audience aren`t stupid or ******ed. Treating them as such leaves no basis for validation of ones point.

 

[phil]

Insulting people in your first sentence isn't a good way to get posters to agree with you.



I may not like it but I don't hate it.

The complaints I bought up were based on fact. I wasn't making anything up.

Nor was I defending Routh's stalking Superman actions in SR which I was put off by.

I'm not even a "SR lover" as you so aptly described. While I liked the film it isn't my favorite version of Superman. I've even critiqued it at SHH on various posts.


I wasn't talking about people who just watch the show. You don't need to watch the show to know Welling is Clark on it.

That's going to come up no matter what happens. Welling can't escape it.



Fair enough.



Not all of us want Routh. He was a fine Superman but it doesn't bother me if he returns or not.

I just want an actor who can do be a good Superman. I don't think Welling can do that.


That's actually something we have in common. SV fans do seem just as passionate for Welling and SV. There's nothing wrong with that.


This is what the forums are here for. To talk about the characters and their movies.



That 4 or 5 million is insignificant to the rest of the fan-base who like Superman. Who will show up to a non-SV based/non-Welling Superman movie.

If they are casual viewers as you suggest then Welling doesn't bring anything to the table Routh or any other actor doesn't.

Routh wasn't even that well known before SR in case you didn't notice. Yet he was still able to be a convincing Superman to not deter people away from it. SR managed to incredibly well with him.



So what?

The films are meant to appeal to more then the SV crowd.



You're welcome to your opinion.



Of course that's going to happen. No-one's denying that.

It doesn't mean SV has an edge on where the film franchise is going, though.



SV does bring in some money but does WB consider it good enough to impact the Superman films? We don't know.

What we do know is that SR proved to be a decent hit proving Superman can survive without being connected to SV in any way. It wasn't perfect, of course, it just showed that Superman's character is still loved today. It doesn't need SV to survive. It never has.

Of course, SR wasn't enough to meet WB's expectations. But its not impossible to fix without resorting to Smallville taking over the franchise.

you have to be kidding me, LOL

 

[Nightwing1977]

Sorry about that MostPowerful, didn't know you were a girl.

This is why we need those little "gender symbols" here. It help avoid the embarrasment of calling a girl "dude".

 

[Changeling]

Why do you guys think that having a different interpretation of a character will confuse the GA? The GA doesn't care if the guy who plays Superman in the movie is the same guy in Smallville but just a little bit different. They won't get that confused and if they do get confused, they'll eventually forget about, lay back and watch the movie, and overall not care if the character is different. All they care about is if they like the movie. Not how the character is a little bit different than a different interpretation.

 

[Olea]

Why do you guys think that having a different interpretation of a character will confuse the GA? The GA doesn't care if the guy who plays Superman in the movie is the same guy in Smallville but just a little bit different. They won't get that confused and if they do get confused, they'll eventually forget about, lay back and watch the movie, and overall not care if the character is different. All they care about is if they like the movie. Not how the character is a little bit different than a different interpretation.

I agree. Even if the general public is a bit confused at the beginning watching the same actor from the tv series play the part of Superman, just few minutes into the movie and should be enough to allow them to relax and understand that things are not exactly the same. But that requires good writing and I'm not sure the WB has the writers available for something like this.....

 

[Olea]

An article posted yesterday in the Hollywood Reporter suggests that Reaper - which was picked for a second season - will return to the CW midseason and will be paired with Supernatural once Smallville concludes it's run.

"Reaper" will return for 13 episodes midseason and will likely be paired with "Supernatural" on Thursday nights after "Smallville" concludes its run.

Following this, Steve, from SaveSuperman.com did some digging and this is what he got from a trusted source:

"I didn't think this news was being released yet but that just shows how fast things can change. With the ongoing contract issues, loss of stars, constant budget concerns after declining viewership, and a number of other problems I'm not permitted to get into, it looks as if we will be closing the Smallville book for good on Dec 11 and not May 7 next spring as originally planned. Whether this actually happens still depends on a few things though. If there's a SAG strike, there may not even be another season. Things are really bad for everyone this year."

This presumably means that Smallville will be off the air and done with season 8 by December 2008. Could this mean that Welling might still be a candidate for the part of Superman for JLA - if rumours are true that it will be shooting towards the end of the year?

 

[Webhead2006]

no one knows for sure, its likely smallville will get full 22 episode count. Smallville could just be taking a winter hiatus break where reaper comes in and plays its episodes then smallville returns, or they could put reaper/smallville on a different night counting on what shows do well and not get canceled and all that.

 

[Showtime]

I doubt they are going to bother coming back for 13 episodes just to end the show, that makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[Webhead2006]

actually i found an article last night over at devoted to smallville site and they say smallville is likely to be getting a full 22 season order, and the whole reaper thing they(cw) never said it would be airing on thursdays. So really my guess it all counts on whats up with their new shows on tues/wensday and if they fail or dont fail on where reaper will be showing up midseason.

 

[Webhead2006]

Double post.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

Reaper got a 13-episode renewal for the second season. So it very well could be a mid-season replacement.

 

[Olea]

I doubt they are going to bother coming back for 13 episodes just to end the show, that makes no sense whatsoever.

Honestly, I don't see why they bother, Showtime. They should have a two-hour finale and wrap up everything. Season 8 just doesn't sound appeal with a Doomsday that could be what? Jekyl and Hyde?

 

[Webhead2006]

no what i was saying reaper was confirmed on what day of the week it will be coming in on midseason. My guess it counts on how cw's new shows go and not go. As for smallville we will just have to wait an see what producers/network says officially for season count and who and who isnt in the season. If allision is leaving officially she will probably make a statement officially tomorrow.