Resorting to putting words in my mouth now?
"If you assume this very specific story point"
Yeah, I'm definitely putting words in your mouth bruh.
Perhaps, I should've made myself even more clearer, there are precedents I'm pointing to when conceptualizing Lex Luthor in Man of Steel's world. For instance, I'm drawing heavily on B/S: Public Enemies (where Luthor completely manipulates the media and mainstream consciousness into believing that he has good intentions while B&S knew Luthors public image was bs),
The same story where Lex Luthor uses Gorilla Grodd? The insane supervillain who wants the extinction of all human life? And disregards his public image by fighting Batman and Superman in the streets of Tokyo?
Hmmm....... Seems more like that works with mine more than yours.
and most especially Brian Azzarellos Lex Luthor: Man of Steel, more specifically, in regards to Luthors paranoia and overall distrust for superheroes. The precedents are there if you had bothered to read the comment instead of making assumptions.
Not for Superheroes, for Superman. Who he's desperate to paint Superman as the bad guy. Also, I never said the phrase "If you assume"- you did about three times in one post.
If that's your argument, then your argument sucks, plain and simple. All you've said is "Joker works in BvS because X, Y, Z did it" without going into detail as to why that would work.
Okay, let's go over one of your "divine inspirations"- Superman/Batman: The World's Finest (Public Enemies).
Lex Luthor wants to appear as a good guy.
Hires insane supervillains, at least one of which wants the extinction of human life and another is a world enslaver.
Lex resorts to getting his own hands dirty.
How would Joker (who is at best a mass murderer) not fit in there?
In fact, the evidence you brought up is flawed because you assume that what is essentially Timms plot can be adapted with no problems (we still need to see Kryptonite introduction so as to be an equalizing force, Luthors motivations, etc.).
No I didn't.
Lastly, quoting TDK means absolutely nothing as theres a difference between a mob trying to fight back against Gothams partially restructured laws and police force, and DCs smartest man having a personal vendetta as a result of fear and paranoia over Supermans potential to do harmful things, as well as an ego that he could be as great as Superman. The mob acted out of desperation due to imminent prison time coming their way vs. Luthors personal conflict against superheroes.
Lex Luthor does not hate superheroes. He hates Superman. He hates Superman because he represents the end of humanity. But he's the only one who can see it, everyone is depending on him to killa god.
You're absolutely right! Why would on Earth would he be desperate!
Luthor has no need to rely on an external force (who is bat**** crazy mind you) when he has money, and (street) smarts.
Clearly Lex does have need to rely on external forces considering he's done it so goddamned often.
Just because it worked in the cartoon movie, it doesnt mean that the same can be said when it is applied to real world/movie logic.
Kek. I only saw that film once, why do you keep bringing it up? Purely because it has the two of them?
I "misremembered" the details. I remembered the Joker going after Sheila, but forgot that the Joker never knew who Sheila really was.
So what would be your answer to my original question?