The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR Batsuit Discussion Thread IX

[EliteF50]

Suuuuuuuure.

... You seriously think the TDK suit is better in any way?

I love the boots/gauntlets, but if you don't, simply swap them for BB's and voila. Perfect Batsuit.

 

[TerryMcGinnis]

That's pretty damn good!

 

[craigdbfan]

That's really awesome.

The pattern for the plated legging is also a million times better than whatever they tried doing with the TDK costume.

 

[Muta]

I personaly like the TDK suit for the most part. I will agree that the legs are a bit... busy, would of been alot better had the plating been similar to the pics above. There was really no need for that many spererated plates on the legs, I guess it was to balance out the suit? The cowl/helmet seems to be a huge gripe but TDK cowl makes ALOT more sense to me. The chest and the way the cape doesnt shroud the shoulders is an annoyance also. In all... tdk suit makes sense. (minus those legs, lol)

 

[Muta]

lol... just noticed that the pics above had the cowl replaced with the TDK like I mentioned. Now replace the abs/belt/arm gauntlets with the TDK design and viola! (The shin guards/boots on the pic above are awesome and could work as some sort of shock absorber.. the guy is jumping from rooftops..

 

[Citadel30]

I really like the design above, however i do think the ears are just a tad bit too tall. shorter the ears to 2/3rds that height and its pretty good.

 

[regwec]

My only problem with the design above (apart from the silly boots and gauntlets) is that it still has a sculpted rubber neck, which would impede the actor's movement and require him to perform a "Bat-turn" when he wants to look around.

Other than that, I can't see how anyone could have any real objections to it.

 

[Troy_Parker]

The Bat-turn should be a requirement, it looks more dramatic. xD

 

[Troy_Parker]

Honestly, apart from a texture/colour change, I think the Arkham City suit would be perfect. I like the gauntlets and shinguards... meh.

In a Batman suit, everything shouldn't be super-streamlined, it should look slightly bulky tbh.

I think a SLIGHTLY modified version of the BB suit would have been perfect, but nvm.

Guess we'll have to wait until the next reboot. :P

 

[genraider]

Some of you have really unrealistic expectations for what a real life suit should look like. The TDK suit isn't perfect but most of the "better" suits people post images to here look awful and would never, ever work on film.

 

[TerryMcGinnis]

Some of you have really unrealistic expectations for what a real life suit should look like. The TDK suit isn't perfect but most of the "better" suits people post images to here look awful and would never, ever work on film.

You mean to imply that the above suit would not work in film? I'm curious as to why you'd think so when far more ridiculous suits have worked on film and I'm not talking about Batman exclusively.

The one issue that I have with Batman's movie suits is that none of them managed to capture both his imposing presence AND his lithe motion. It's one or the other, and quite often neither.

 

[Pagan]

Honestly, apart from a texture/colour change, I think the Arkham City suit would be perfect. I like the gauntlets and shinguards... meh.

In a Batman suit, everything shouldn't be super-streamlined, it should look slightly bulky tbh.

I think a SLIGHTLY modified version of the BB suit would have been perfect, but nvm.

Guess we'll have to wait until the next reboot. :P

and I'm of a totally different opinion. the batsuit should be sleek,lightweight and flexible. Bats is an acrobat. An escape artist. a martial arts expert. Anything that would restrict that should be thrown out before the discussion goes any farther. He's not a tank. He strikes fast from the shadows. his defense is that you don't see him coming. and when you do it's too late. He should have a lightweight bulletproof mesh that the suit is made of. Not 200 lbs of rubber bulk that he can't move in.

 

[Troy_Parker]

In the movie he wasn't not carrying 200 lbs of rubber bulk either.

It was pre-existing armour that he modified to his needs.

 

[Troy_Parker]

Some of you have really unrealistic expectations for what a real life suit should look like. The TDK suit isn't perfect but most of the "better" suits people post images to here look awful and would never, ever work on film.

Haha, agreed.

 

[Troy_Parker]

and I'm of a totally different opinion. the batsuit should be sleek,lightweight and flexible. Bats is an acrobat. An escape artist. a martial arts expert. Anything that would restrict that should be thrown out before the discussion goes any farther. He's not a tank. He strikes fast from the shadows. his defense is that you don't see him coming. and when you do it's too late. He should have a lightweight bulletproof mesh that the suit is made of. Not 200 lbs of rubber bulk that he can't move in.

I honestly don't mind either way. But I think they went too far with making it light and overall... thinner with TDK suit.

I think the TDK suit would work with a few less plates.

 

[The Watchman]

Pretty much exactly what I'd like to see in a reboot. It's fresh.

 

[genraider]

You mean to imply that the above suit would not work in film? I'm curious as to why you'd think so when far more ridiculous suits have worked on film and I'm not talking about Batman exclusively.

The one issue that I have with Batman's movie suits is that none of them managed to capture both his imposing presence AND his lithe motion. It's one or the other, and quite often neither.

You're excusing your argument for another suit by saying "far more ridiculous suits have worked on film". Yes, I agree, these other suits people post images of look absolutely silly and far worse than the TDK suit.

I am an avid Batman comic reader, and I understand your concern about capturing his "imposing presence", but in the comics it is rarely about his suit. It's about his towering size over everyone else. Look at how big he is in the comics compared to other criminals and low life thugs. It's much more about size and setting than the suit. Frankly, the movies are not going to pull it off without different actors and directors. I much prefer Nolan's version of Batman to what anyone else would make, so I'm content with the suit and everything else.

Basically, this entire thread is about nerd nitpicking when no one outside of the fifteen people on this topic really cares.

 

[Mister Meddle]

So it makes us nerds for wanting something closer to the comics? Was that really necessary?

Well at least you care.

 

[TerryMcGinnis]

You're excusing your argument for another suit by saying "far more ridiculous suits have worked on film". Yes, I agree, these other suits people post images of look absolutely silly and far worse than the TDK suit.

I'm not excusing my argument, nor do I see a reason to EXCUSE anything. While some images posted here are indeed silly, many are not silly at all. The question again would be how to accomplish such designs while still allowing the wearer to move relatively freely. I'm not in the "TDK's suit sucks" camp, I like it a lot in some shots and dislike it to the same degree in others. It's only natural that since Nolan started sort of a Batman renaissance in many aspects, people feel that it's too bad other aspects, like the suit in TDK, aren't quite up to snuff. The closer something gets to being perfect the more jarring little imperfections become.

I am an avid Batman comic reader, and I understand your concern about capturing his "imposing presence", but in the comics it is rarely about his suit. It's about his towering size over everyone else. Look at how big he is in the comics compared to other criminals and low life thugs. It's much more about size and setting than the suit. Frankly, the movies are not going to pull it off without different actors and directors. I much prefer Nolan's version of Batman to what anyone else would make, so I'm content with the suit and everything else.

I realize that making Batman as overwhelmingly massive and intimidating compared to the garden variety thug, like he is in the comics, is nigh impossible to do onscreen without very liberal use of CGI - many would argue this would kill the essence of the character. Either that or finding someone who's built like an NFL linebacker but has the acting chops of Bale - not very likely. But you must admit it was achieved to a certain extent in Begins, and it worked wonderfully while it lasted there. The suit was a big part of it, though not the only, the tone of the film was very different too. Pretty much everyone here is aware that the suit introduced in TDK is here to stay, in some shape or another, in TDKR. However, that doesn't prevent us from discussing possible alterations to the design which would bring it closer to a streamlined and more traditional appearance.

In the bolded part, even if you are referring to just the suit and not the films, you're making a GIANT leap of faith in claiming that you couldn't like another Batman suit/film better than Nolan's versions. Absolute claims like that are usually a mark of immaturity. The old saying goes, a wise man changes his mind, a fool never will. I'm not trying to imply you're a fool, but the last part isn't helping your case at all.

Nolan's batfilms are fantastic in their own right, but there are many more possible angles to approach the subject matter that could produce a DIFFERENT, but no less outstanding result.

Basically, this entire thread is about nerd nitpicking when no one outside of the fifteen people on this topic really cares.

Nerds nitpicking on a superhero forum?! No way.

 

[CapedCrusader14]

That Arkham suit is pretty damn good.

But leave it for a reboot.

 

[The Caped Knight]

Wow The Arkham Asylum batsuit comes to life .

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

After seeing these newly surfaced pics of the MOS Superman suit, I dislike TDK suit even more. We could have a batman suit with the same material and "assume" the armor would be underneath without it being layered on top in puzzle pieces over chainmail.

Hopefully in 6 years or so the costume designers for the reboot use a similar style and material.

 

[Mister Meddle]

Superman looks great.

 

[Majik1387]

You should check out the close ups of his costume

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Yes he does, he looks amazing that was exactly my point Meddle. It makes me sad were going to get such an amazing new suit for MOS but were stuck with TDK suit for the last film in Nolans trilogy, its almost a crime.