The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR Batsuit Discussion Thread

[the dmg]

Thats not whats hes saying, hes just pointing out that whatever the merits of grey tones in urban cammo may be, on film and in lighting this crap shows up differently.

I know that. The point is that gray would still stick out when they are trying to hide him in the shadows on film. So yes, that is what he's saying. The fact that the TDK suit had gray on it and still looked black on film with him out of the shadows, while in production shots it was on the lighter side, they can definitely pull off going a shade lighter and still keep him hidden in the dark.

 

[JAK®]

The funny thing to me is, with every other superhero, they have to put on a black costume whenever it's supposed to show that they're "going dark." Batman is supposed to already be dark, so why shouldn't he have a black costume by default?

As for this claim that gray is stealthier than black-- first of all, Batman's suit in Nolan's movies IS gray. The way it is lit makes it look black, but it's actually matte gray. I see no reason to make the cowl darker and put panties on it when there would be no discernable difference in most lighting conditions anyway. Second of all, if you're going to use that argument, then surely you would not object to Batman's suit having an urban camo pattern, since whatever benefit a middle gray suit would have would be minuscule compared to actual camo?

There's your perfect Batman suit material. And you wouldn't be able to complain about it, since your argument is that black isn't stealthy enough.

LOL

You really are something, you know that? You really are a slimy little worm. I'm going to ignore the fact that you clearly skimmed over my post, as I mentioned the exact same things you have just brought up, but now you are pretending that it's the traditionalists that bring up the stealth argument? When for years people like you were defending all-black because of stealth, and now that studies have shown the opposite is true, all of a sudden it's our silly argument?

GOD DAMN, talk about arguing to a brick ****ing wall. All of this over a comic book character's suit as well.

Read my posts and then see how stupid you have just been.

 

[Galactus123]

I want to see Batman Beyond costume

If not in The Dark Knight Rises then there should be a sequel that is set in future. Dick Grayson could be next Batman.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

Which Batman comics were "necessary"?

Oh there are quite a few, despite it contradicting the nature of fiction writing itself. I think the need for certain stories arise simply because of the medium. The magazines tell a continuing series, and with so many talents interpreting the characters certain traits and qualities, including stories essential to those qualities, become necessary. Changing status quos or reintroducing elements, however, are not always so. A few stories I would deem necessary for the character, in its modern era incarnation, would have to be Year One, The Long Halloween, both the Fugitive and Murderer storylines, and perhaps Dark Knight Returns. Its influence on the industry and the character is rather important. But I am not talking about the continuity of these stories, for comics that's never as important as editors would have us believe, I am talking about the interpretation or idea behind it. I think Arkham Asylum, the OGN by Morrison, also falls into this category. Not for the sake of good stories, but for the sake of a strong definition.

There's your perfect Batman suit material. And you wouldn't be able to complain about it, since your argument is that black isn't stealthy enough.

I'm sure Lucius would've suggested this. I'm also sure that Mr. Wayne would simply ask for something in black.

I'm still thinking that while the theme in the first film was about intimidation, and the second was function, the third might be stealth. But of course, certainly nothing like that.

 

[TerryMcGinnis]

I want to see Batman Beyond costume

Spoiler

If not in The Dark Knight Rises then there should be a sequel that is set in future. Dick Grayson could be next Batman.

Hey now, don't you ditch my namesake for Dick Grayson. If they are going to do a Batman Beyond live action film I sincerely hope they don't **** up, they should stick to the source material and not invent ****. Terry McGinnis is Batman Beyond and that's the way it's supposed to be.

With that said, a couple of days ago I drew/painted my vision of a Beyond suit that's faithful and still looks plausible:

The material would be carbon fiber cloth and kevlar underneath. As for the eyes and mouth, I don't want a realist freak directing this, these details should be done via CGI.

It's on my deviantART account: http://art3misentreri.deviantart.com/gallery/

 

[Timstuff]

LOL

You really are something, you know that? You really are a slimy little worm. I'm going to ignore the fact that you clearly skimmed over my post, as I mentioned the exact same things you have just brought up, but now you are pretending that it's the traditionalists that bring up the stealth argument? When for years people like you were defending all-black because of stealth, and now that studies have shown the opposite is true, all of a sudden it's our silly argument?

GOD DAMN, talk about arguing to a brick ****ing wall. All of this over a comic book character's suit as well.

Read my posts and then see how stupid you have just been.

Feeling pissy today, are we? Why, if I didn't know better I'd say I struck a nerve.

 

[Travesty]

I want to see Batman Beyond costume

Ha, that's a sweet manip. Where did you find that?

 

[Timstuff]

I'm sure Lucius would've suggested this. I'm also sure that Mr. Wayne would simply ask for something in black.

Heheh, I know, right? I'm pretty sure that after two movies of Bruce wanting his costume in black, he's not one day going to walk up to Lucius and say "can make my new suit gray with black panties on it? I want to look like a comic book character."

 

[regwec]

The debate over the plausibility of a grey Batsuit is the longest running argument since the Great Schism of 1054.

 

[redhawk23]

The debate over the plausibility of a grey Batsuit is the longest running argument since the Great Schism of 1054.

Good show, kind sir.

 

[Xtroid]

Aaah stripes!

 

[Saint]

The debate over the plausibility of a grey Batsuit is the longest running argument since the Great Schism of 1054.

It's alarming, the number of people who, incredibly, will insist that talented filmmakers could not make a black and grey costume work if they actually wanted to.

 

[EliteF50]

It's alarming, the number of people who, incredibly, will insist that talented filmmakers could not make a black and grey costume work if they actually wanted to.

It worked in City of Scars, it could definitely work in a Hollywood film.

 

[TerryMcGinnis]

Aaah stripes!

Stripes are in these days, didn't you get the memo Just look at the new Spidey suit.

On topic: a black and gray suit could in fact work amazingly well in a film with some proper art direction. Anyone who believes otherwise needs to reevaluate their sanity ASAP.

 

[Timstuff]

It's alarming, the number of people who, incredibly, will insist that talented filmmakers could not make a black and grey costume work if they actually wanted to.

Even more alarming are the number of people who, incredibly, just can't admit that an all-black suit looks cooler on film than the one from the comic.

 

[Boom]

It's alarming, the number of people who, incredibly, will insist that talented filmmakers could not make a black and grey costume work if they actually wanted to.

This is a perfect post. It really is.

 

[Timstuff]

This is a perfect post. It really is.

Please, elaborate.

 

[Boom]

Because it's 100% true.

I won't say one color scheme is cooler than the other, because that is a matter of opinion. But for someone to claim that black and grey simply CANNOT work on screen is both ridiculous and ignorant.

 

[Mr. Earle]

Even more alarming are the number of people who, incredibly, just can't admit that an all-black suit looks cooler on film than the one from the comic.

That's a matter of taste, not a fact.

 

[JAK®]

The minute a decent looking grey and black costume appears in a film, everyone would be all over it, support for the Nolan costumes will disappear, and all the nay-sayers will act like they never said anything.

 

[Saint]

Even more alarming are the number of people who, incredibly, just can't admit that an all-black suit looks cooler on film than the one from the comic.

What a silly, silly, thing to say; as if "coolness" is absolute and quantifiable.

I'm glad I have the capacity to like more than one option at a time, and that I'm not so insecure that I have to devalue alternatives to feel comfortable in my preferences. Such qualities mean that I don't get caught making silly posts like yours.

 

[protoctista]

Wow, people really get mean here don't they?

 

[JAK®]

Wow, people really get mean here don't they?

When you get treated with condescension because you want a suit to look a certain way, that tends to happen.

 

[Bathead]

Even more alarming are the number of people who, incredibly, just can't admit that an all-black suit looks cooler on film than the one from the comic.

That's because it doesn't.

 

[Bathead]

I said it before, and I'll say it again. If Burton had gone with a grey and black scheme for the batsuit back in '89, we wouldn't be having these arguments about the grey versus black suit now. We'd likely be arguing about some other kind of nit-picky crap.