The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread - - - - - - Part 99

[TheNextNolan22]

Sound is really good but the picture could be a lot better. Leo is strangely orange in a few scenes.

Glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. The sound is really great. And I agree that the picture could have been better, but I thought it was much better than the transfer for The Dark Knight.

 

[Ramsay Snow]

Stellar Blu Ray transfer on Inception.

Nice. Well, hopefully TDKR transfer is even better and improves any imperfections.

 

[Deserana]

Thank you This gives me faith that TDKR's will be good.



Oh, I see

Actually scrap my picture thoughts as I've only seen it in 1080i (just remembered). It's a dillemma I either see blurays upstairs with a smaller TV and no surround sound but with a perfect 1080p TV or I see it down stairs with a bigger TV surround sound but a 1080i picture quality. Many say they can't see the difference but to me the difference between 1080i and 1080p is huge!

 

[Yurka]

Can't pass up a chance to see BB again in IMAX, LieMAX marathon, here I come. Got my tix

 

[Ramsay Snow]

Actually scrap my picture thoughts as I've only seen it in 1080i (just remembered). It's a dillemma I either see blurays upstairs with a smaller TV and no surround sound but with a perfect 1080p TV or I see it down stairs with a bigger TV surround sound but a 1080i picture quality. Many say they can't see the difference but to me the difference between 1080i and 1080p is huge!

Ah okay. 1080p looks really good but I only view it on 720p on my laptop - it can't handle 1080p maybe a better one can...

 

[gamereviewgod]

Neither Blu Rays have the Master Audio track. They are True HD. Compressed audio, nowhere near as good as Master Audio. They need to get on the ball with that ****! Pathetic!

TrueHD and DTS-HD are identical in terms of their output. There is no difference. Both are uncompressed, lossless audio formats.

Thank you, that explained it perfectly I'm kind of disappointed, what I saw could have looked much better

Both Dark Knight and Batman Begins came at a time when Warner's new releases were crushed under awful compression schemes. All of them had issues up until say, early 2011-ish. Dark Knight is filled with needless sharpening/edge enhancement and DNR, in a rather poor attempt to bring the non-IMAX footage up to the level of, well, the IMAX footage. It doesn't work that way, and it's a transfer that desperately needs updated, more so for a film of that caliber.

 

[Carnotaur3]

Someone took my K18 seat, was it you!!

Oh well, I got the one next to it. Hate having to settle, even that close.

No, I haven't ordered any tickets. Gonna wait it out. Not seeing the film until I'm with my girl.

 

[TheIrishAvenger]

@gamereviewgod: Welcome to teh hype!

 

[rashad]

The NBA Finals begin tonight. A fresh TV Spot may air.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

@Gamereviewgod great first post!

 

[TheIrishAvenger]

The NBA Finals begin tonight. A fresh TV Spot may air.

How long until they start?

 

[Bat]

2 hrs

 

[redfirebird2008]

Dark Knight is filled with needless sharpening/edge enhancement and DNR, in a rather poor attempt to bring the non-IMAX footage up to the level of, well, the IMAX footage. It doesn't work that way, and it's a transfer that desperately needs updated, more so for a film of that caliber.

I don't even think it's an issue of the Blu-ray transfer process. They gave it plenty of bitrate, unlike Batman Begins. I think it's simply that they took TDK's IMAX DMR print (which had a ton of EE and DNR added) and put it on Blu-ray.

 

[Bat]

Ah okay. 1080p looks really good but I only view it on 720p on my laptop - it can't handle 1080p maybe a better one can...

lol dude your avatar is awesome!!!

 

[TheIrishAvenger]

2 hrs

 

[TheIrishAvenger]

Thank God redfirebird is here

 

[gamereviewgod]

I don't even think it's an issue of the Blu-ray transfer process. They gave it plenty of bitrate, unlike Batman Begins. I think it's simply that they took TDK's IMAX DMR print (which had a ton of EE and DNR added) and put it on Blu-ray.

Also a definite possibility, sure. What I don't recall though, after seeing it in IMAX, was all the sharpening. It would have drove me nuts sitting in that theater, certainly with a screen of that size!

It wasn't necessarily the bitrate either. I should clarify. Most of Warner's (then) lazy compression techniques used a suffocated VC-1 codec which was never sufficient and added gobs of artifacts regardless of what the numbers showed. VC-1 is fine in the scheme of things, not so much under Warner's guidance. That process ruined many a great film, Dark Knight being one possible casualty.

 

[Uroboric Forms]

Hopefully there will be new transfers for the inevitable trilogy boxset?

 

[redfirebird2008]

Also a definite possibility, sure. What I don't recall though, after seeing it in IMAX, was all the sharpening. It would have drove me nuts sitting in that theater, certainly with a screen of that size!

It wasn't necessarily the bitrate either. I should clarify. Most of Warner's (then) lazy compression techniques used a suffocated VC-1 codec which was never sufficient and added gobs of artifacts regardless of what the numbers showed. VC-1 is fine in the scheme of things, not so much under Warner's guidance. That process ruined many a great film, Dark Knight being one possible casualty.

I don't have any problem with VC-1. Hell, WB did a great job with it on classic films like the Wizard of Oz.

 

[J.Howlett]

I don't even think it's an issue of the Blu-ray transfer process. They gave it plenty of bitrate, unlike Batman Begins. I think it's simply that they took TDK's IMAX DMR print (which had a ton of EE and DNR added) and put it on Blu-ray.

While I don't have the problems with it that many have, this is what they more than likely did.

 

[J.Howlett]

I don't have any problem with VC-1. Hell, WB did a great job with it on classic films like the Wizard of Oz.

And Gone With The Wind. Stunning Blu Ray.

 

[Ramsay Snow]

lol dude your avatar is awesome!!!

Thanks. Kane52630 provided me with it, but I chose the character

 

[gamereviewgod]

I don't have any problem with VC-1. Hell, WB did a great job with it on classic films like the Wizard of Oz.

It's fantastic. Few studios treat their catalog better than Warner (regardless of codec), but their new releases for a while? Ugh. Hangover (first release) is a great example of what not to do with a codec, and even more recently, Crazy Stupid Love, which oddly used AVC.

But, like I said. In general terms, their new releases are fine now. They heard the community and reacted accordingly. That's what makes me wish for new Batman encodes when Rises hits home in a box set.

 

[J.Howlett]

I don't know. I saw Crazy Stupid Love theatrically and the BD is pretty much on point to what I saw theatrically.

As for new encodes and remastering of Begins and Knight, considering the significance of this series, ten years from now, we'll get a proper redo of those two films.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

I suggest we keep our eyes peeled over all the major channels on cable. More than one spot could appear tonight.