The Wrestling Thread Has More Hype Than WrestleMania XXIX - Part 91

[Kaleb]

Isn't Wrestlemania usually 4 hours instead of 3?

the HHH matches give it a 4hr feeling ( took him like half an hr to pin booker T I remember)

 

[I'm Venom]

Isn't Wrestlemania usually 4 hours instead of 3?

WrestleMania 28 - 121 minutes of wrestling, 8 total matches
WrestleMania 27 - 101 minutes of wrestling, 8 total matches
WrestleMania 26 - 113 minutes of wrestling, 10 total matches
WrestleMania 25 - 115 minutes of wrestling, 8 total matches

So over the last 4 years, the average amount of wrestling is 112 minutes. I don't think anything is going to go thirty minutes this year, and Cena and Rock would be better off going shorter this year.

 

[Kaleb]

 

[Team Andino]

I usually don't care for too much of the comedic wrestling that Chikara does but that second gif gave me a good laugh.

 

[Kaleb]

 

[Anno_Domini]

Isn't Wrestlemania usually 4 hours instead of 3?

Isn't it five hours this time with the one hour pre-show?

 

[Metallo]

Originally Posted by PyroChamber
Now it seems like whenever they do put AJ in a match, she barely does anything. All she does is maybe a couple of moves, look crazy, and then the match is over.

Yeah her role isn't as prominent as it used to be.

Originally Posted by Slushy
Shamrock was ahead of his time to prevented him from becoming WWF Champion. Too many main eventers, worked too stiff (can't blame him), and lack of mic skills. I still love the guy though.

As for Dwayne Johnson's box office success again, boots to asses...

Er...isn't Retaliation's U.S. opening WEAKER than Rise of Cobra's despite the advantages of a three day (Easter) weekend AND 3D ticket prices? Advantages RoC didn't have? Thats not even mentioning the earlier midnight openings in some places.

Its Rock once again already attaching himself to an existing film franchise and not even a stupendously sucessful one at that. If they were counting on him to give this series a big time BO boost he hasn't really done it so far.

The argument could easily be made that its opening weekend is the sucess of the Joe brand name more than solely the Rocks...especially since its not doing any better domestically than the first film so far. Its doing better overseas but that seems to be a trend for most movies now compare to years ago.

Joe wasn't as sucessful as TF before the films but I feel like they made some major missteps with a potential G.I. Joe film franchise from the very beginning that make it difficult for it to reach its potential without a full on reboot. Its a shame. Done "better" these films could have made almost as much bank as the Transformers franchise and even those films have their flaws.

Originally Posted by Kaleb
the HHH matches give it a 4hr feeling ( took him like half an hr to pin booker T I remember)

Triple H wanted to savor that job from Booker T.

Originally Posted by I'm Venom
WrestleMania 28 - 121 minutes of wrestling, 8 total matches
WrestleMania 27 - 101 minutes of wrestling, 8 total matches
WrestleMania 26 - 113 minutes of wrestling, 10 total matches
WrestleMania 25 - 115 minutes of wrestling, 8 total matches

So over the last 4 years, the average amount of wrestling is 112 minutes. I don't think anything is going to go thirty minutes this year, and Cena and Rock would be better off going shorter this year.

Boy...thats just sad. Its called WRESTLEmania not TALKamania or VideopackageMania, WWE. For a 4 hour show you'd think more than half of it would be wrestling. TV is for talking. PPV should be more for action but it seems like even on WWE PPV's we are seeing less and less relatively speaking. If I wanted skits and talking I'd just watch Raw. I don't have to pay almost 70 bucks for one three hour Raw.

Thats why I hated WM27. I didn't mind Rock hosting but those skits got stupid real quick. Especially that opening speech from the Rock.

Originally Posted by Kaleb

Lol. this is too funny.

 

[Dr. Evil]

The Rock has also attached himself to Fast and Furious, which is mostly Vin Diesel. Hell, the last movie took place in Brazil, a country where the WWE had a disastrous outing when they visited there last year.

BTW, I don't see the WWE going back to Brazil for a long time, if ever.

 

[Team Andino]

It was pretty weak for the first two weeks. It's sadly obvious Creative had nothing planned. Then Paul Bearer passed, and the use of the Urn has been the focus of their feud with Punk stealing it and taunting Taker. Then finally Punk cut a good promo last Monday about Taker's streak, giving the feud the much needed edge it's been missing.

Pathetic to hear that creative clearly had little planned for this, even with the passing of Paul the whole stealing of the urn thing feels like it belongs for a build towards any other B level PPV not a Wrestlemania build in this day and age. Punk/Taker should be grand instead of an afterthought.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Creative can't do anything when they work for an egotistical, self centered, womaning boss who might be bipolar.

 

[SpideyVille]

Boy...thats just sad. Its called WRESTLEmania not TALKamania or VideopackageMania, WWE. For a 4 hour show you'd think more than half of it would be wrestling. TV is for talking. PPV should be more for action but it seems like even on WWE PPV's we are seeing less and less relatively speaking. If I wanted skits and talking I'd just watch Raw. I don't have to pay almost 70 bucks for one three hour Raw.

I haven't really followed WWE as closely in the past few years, but from my understanding, they've gone as established themselves more as a Sports Entertainment brand than a Wrestling brand. I agree that the PPV should be where they go all out, especially at the Grandest Stage of them all, Wrestlemania, but its not surprising to see them focus on other stuff, whether it be backstage drama, the Hall of Fame class, celebrity guests. Its a shame, but its just another sign of how much things have changed.

 

[SpideyVille]

Pathetic to hear that creative clearly had little planned for this, even with the passing of Paul the whole stealing of the urn thing feels like it belongs for a build towards any other B level PPV not a Wrestlemania build in this day and age. Punk/Taker should be grand instead of an afterthought.

This is a big reason why I really hope they don't do something stupid like have Punk end the Streak. Ever since the Streak became a thing worth noting and talking about in the buildup of his matches, every match that the Undertake had felt like its own main event. But now, with the Undertaker showing up just weeks before WM, with no real rivalry or opponent who wants to take him down, it seems weak and almost too predictable that he would win.

 

[Van Petrol]

Have people seen this re-leather of the US title a fan did? He should sell the design to WWE or something, it looks bloody amazing imo.

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Not a fan of the design, but Paul is awesome! He's re-leathered a few belts for me. Nice guy too.

 

[Van Petrol]

I don't think he enjoyed the lifestyle. He talks about WWE about fifteen minutes into the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6KAPKZSn8I

I don't blame him for not wanting to do an incest angle or some of the other angles. It's interesting that he and Owen shared the same issues with creative. They worked well together. Also I thought it was awesome when Dan Severn joined the roster for a brief time.

Yeah, sounds like it. Yeah, him and Owen had some good confrontation and bouts. I agree about Severn too.

I was always surprised they didn't do Austin vs Shamrock, the toughest SOB in the WWF vs the World's most dangerous man seemed to write itself, the redneck brawler vs the MMA specialist. It always made me wonder if Shamrock had something in his contract where he couldn't lose clean.

I agree. Though I guess with the roster being a bit crowded in the ME scene around the time Shamrock was there, that there was really no space for him.

I remember seeing that match on Raw for some reason. I think Austin wrestled his ass off

Yeah, they had a couple of good bouts on Raw. Once for the WWF title, and then later, an 'I Quit' match.

 

[Van Petrol]

I knew they had a match on Raw but I didn't know it was an I Quit match, I bet ended without a proper finish thgough.

I always thought in 99 that Shamrock was an ideal choice to be Vince's guy after Rock turned face, Shamrock could have slipped into the role as Vince's corporate weapon going after Austin and the title.

Yeah, the stooges interfered near the end, if I remember correctly. Yeah, I agree on the latter, I was actually discussing that exact same scenario a little while back with some buddies.

 

[SpideyFan866]

Isn't it five hours this time with the one hour pre-show?

Yes. 1 hour for the pre-show, which is expected to feature 2 maybe even 3 matches, and then the main show which is 4.

and this is typically what it is every year.

 

[Van Petrol]

Thats a great idea. They could have even played up Shamrocks MMA background as making him superior and used it to piss off wrestling fans. It could have gotten Shamrock and Vince more heel heat.

I wonder if Vince looked down his nose at MMA too much to put it over like that...especially then before it really took off as more mainstream?

I wouldn't be surprised. Afterall he wouldn't want another fighting style product looking better than his.

 

[The Sage]

According to The Wrestling Observer, Jeff Jarrett not appearing on the recent "One Night Only" PPV featuring past TNA champions is very telling of his current status/position in the company.

The report notes that Jarrett lost all his power in TNA back when Dixie Carter felt Jarrett lied to her about his relationship with Kurt Angle's then-wife Karen Angle who is now married to Jarrett. At the end of 2011, both Karen and Jeff Jarrett were written off TNA TV so Jeff could focus on the Ring Ka King project in India.

When the Ring Ka King project was not renewed in India and the All Wheels Wrestling project for The Speed Channel failed, Jarrett was left with very little to do in TNA, and he has since worked on a few smaller projects outside the company including filming a scene for the movie "Spring Breakers." It's being said that both Eric Bischoff and Bruce Prichard were against the idea of bringing Jarrett back to TNA as an on-air talent.

Amidst concern within WWE that CM Punk is currently working with several nagging injuries, Punk has been pulled from all post-WrestleMania live event advertisements which indicates he will be given some time off after the big PPV to heal up.

Punk is not being advertised for any house show events following 'Mania, including the European tour which kicks off on 4/17 in The Netherlands. Punk is also not being advertised for any WWE events in May, including the Extreme Rules PPV taking place on 5/19. We previously reported that Punk is likely to be missing the Extreme Rules PPV, which is one of the reasons why WWE is booking both The Rock and Brock Lesnar to appear on the show.

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/270...jarretts-current-tna-wrestling-positionstatus
http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/270...tus-wwe-nominated-for-six-social-media-awards

 

[Van Petrol]

I'm going to the Raw tapings in April, and at the moment it looks as though I won't be seeing Punk.

 

[spidey-dude]

I'm going to the Raw tapings in April, and at the moment it looks as though I won't be seeing Punk.

thats sucks.... awesome you got tickets though, I couldnt get any

 

[spidey-dude]

in semi related news I've just seen that a UK betting shop lets you bet on wrestlemania matches..... how certain are we on outcomes boys?? spidey-dudes thinking he could make some easy money

 

[The Sage]

in semi related news I've just seen that a UK betting shop lets you bet on wrestlemania matches..... how certain are we on outcomes boys?? spidey-dudes thinking he could make some easy money

The three main-events are a given to me, though there is the off chance of Brock beating HHH.

 

[spidey-dude]

The three main-events are a given to me, though there is the off chance of Brock beating HHH.

the question is do I have the balls to put alot of money on Cena winning at odds of 1-10.....

 

[Van Petrol]

thats sucks.... awesome you got tickets though, I couldnt get any

Yeah, I got lucky as my brother's friend works at the box office and got us the tickets. Got good seats too, 2-3 rows back from ringside.

in semi related news I've just seen that a UK betting shop lets you bet on wrestlemania matches..... how certain are we on outcomes boys?? spidey-dudes thinking he could make some easy money

And which betting shop would this be?...

 

[SpideyFan866]

The three main-events are a given to me, though there is the off chance of Brock beating HHH.

Eh. I think the only one that's a given is Brock vs. HHH.

I think Punk vs. Taker and especially Rock vs. Cena II is unpredictable.

At most, I'd say its a 55/45 chance of a predictable outcome for either.