The Dark Knight Things you noticed the second time

[The Joker]

During Maroni's trial, Harvey Dent says that Falcone is in Arkham so someone had to take over the mob etc. Does that mean Arkham is operational again.

Arkham wasn't destroyed in Begins. The inmates were just set free.

 

[ALittlePush]

Thank you very much

 

[EHTNAMTAB]

At the very very end, Harvey tells Gordon to say it will "be alright" to his son. When Gordon says this, his son nods, like he believes him!

And ironically, it would have been - the coin was good side up!

 

[ALittlePush]

Rachel kisses Bruce even though Harvey has asked her to marry him.

 

[BestGirl]

At the very very end, Harvey tells Gordon to say it will "be alright" to his son. When Gordon says this, his son nods, like he believes him!

And ironically, it would have been - the coin was good side up!

I wonder what Dent would've done if he hadn't been killed. Just try and walk away? Give himself up to the police?

 

[Anita18]

At the very very end, Harvey tells Gordon to say it will "be alright" to his son. When Gordon says this, his son nods, like he believes him!

And ironically, it would have been - the coin was good side up!

In BB, younger Gordon tells little Bruce "it's okay" after his parents are murdered. For all Gordon knows, he's lying each time, but he acts more convincingly for his son. It definitely turned out better for little James, thanks to the boy who was not okay.

I wonder what Dent would've done if he hadn't been killed. Just try and walk away? Give himself up to the police?

Probably leap off the edge himself. "You think I want to escape from this? There is no escape from this!"

And Gordon and Bats would still have found themselves doing the same thing at the end.

 

[ultrasuperduckman]

I don't see how so many people think that Arkham was destroyed in BB. I've heard this before and all that happened was a portion of the a wall was blown open.

At the very very end, Harvey tells Gordon to say it will "be alright" to his son. When Gordon says this, his son nods, like he believes him!

And ironically, it would have been - the coin was good side up!

I was thinking, the coin landed on the ground good side up. I wonder if it would have had he caught the coin. You know? Because there is more time for the coin to spin from the distance from his hand to the floor...

I understand that the scene was suppose to mean that the coin would have landed good side up. It's just a thought haha.

 

[Anita18]

I was thinking, the coin landed on the ground good side up. I wonder if it would have had he caught the coin. You know? Because there is more time for the coin to spin from the distance from his hand to the floor...

I understand that the scene was suppose to mean that the coin would have landed good side up. It's just a thought haha.

I don't think it "would have" done anything, it was just a visual cue that good (Batman) had triumphed over evil (Two-Face).

 

[BestGirl]

Probably leap off the edge himself. "You think I want to escape from this? There is no escape from this!"

And Gordon and Bats would still have found themselves doing the same thing at the end.

But he already flipped the coin on himself and it came up Good Heads. He couldn't kill himself.

 

[ultrasuperduckman]

I don't think it "would have" done anything, it was just a visual cue that good (Batman) had triumphed over evil (Two-Face).

Right, as I said, I understand that.

Just saying.

 

[batman11]

I don't think it "would have" done anything, it was just a visual cue that good (Batman) had triumphed over evil (Two-Face).

I always liked to think of it in a slightly more interesting way. The coin had been flipped it's final time, and landed heads up. Flipping the coin was Harvey's final act before his death. In death, Harvey was able to live on as a hero to Gotham, instead of being revealed as the law-breaker he had become. Thus, the coin landed heads up, as did Harvey in the eyes of the public - the scarred side (the coin's scarred side is hidden against the floor, Harvey's is kept from Gotham) remains concealed forever.

 

[CJ]

I noticed this one awhile back. When Joker said 'i believe whatever doesn't kill you, simply makes you stranger..' Not only is he talking about himself, but foreshadowing Dent's scarring and mental change later on.

 

[voyzovrezon]

I noticed this one awhile back. When Joker said 'i believe whatever doesn't kill you, simply makes you stranger..' Not only is he talking about himself, but foreshadowing Dent's scarring and mental change later on.

Dent foreshadowed his own future when he said "You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

 

[BestGirl]

"A little fight in ya, I like that."

"Then you're gonna love me."

The Joker really does come to "love" Batman and relish their little cat-and-muse game.

 

[EHTNAMTAB]

Can't belive i only just noticed this!!

When the Joker makes his enterance at the mob meeting, we hear a body slump and fall to the floor, just as the joker starts laughing!

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Really? I've never noticed that before and I've seen it about 50 times. I'll have to check it out again tomora.

 

[frodawgg]

joker laughing when he is falling and almost dies at the end, because he thought he won.

 

[The Joker]

Can't belive i only just noticed this!!

When the Joker makes his enterance at the mob meeting, we hear a body slump and fall to the floor, just as the joker starts laughing!

Never ever noticed that before....

 

[Anita18]

Dent foreshadowed his own future when he said "You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

I noticed also at the end, when Dent spills his guts about losing everything ("You wouldn't dare try to justify yourself if you knew what I'd lost." "Then why was I the only one who lost everything?") and making some people a little since we were barely shown his relationship with Rachel, I realized that he isn't talking about Rachel specifically.

Dent is a Type A control freak. Heck, he's so sure of himself he makes bets with a two-headed coin. He never ever questions his decisions, because they're always the right ones. He had a plan all right - make Gotham whole, get rid of the mob, marry Rachel and have a nice life. What Joker does to him is to collapse his very foundations of existence, show him that without order, his life is nothing.

 

[BestGirl]

^Losing Rachel was obviously a big deal, but I think it was the scarring that put him completely over the edge. He obviously was never going to work in politics again, it was unlikely any other woman would have him, people were going to be staring at him on the street for the rest of his life...I think most anyone would lose it, though not necessarily to that extent.

 

[Indrid Cold]

Can't belive i only just noticed this!!

When the Joker makes his enterance at the mob meeting, we hear a body slump and fall to the floor, just as the joker starts laughing!

Prolly the dude with the metal detector, that the mobsters had to pass to get into the meeting.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

^Losing Rachel was obviously a big deal, but I think it was the scarring that put him completely over the edge. He obviously was never going to work in politics again, it was unlikely any other woman would have him, people were going to be staring at him on the street for the rest of his life...I think most anyone would lose it, though not necessarily to that extent.

Plus I think he would be angry about the fact that he was right all along. And Gordon's inaction indirectly led to his a Rachel's incident.

 

[jameson34656]

Can't belive i only just noticed this!!

When the Joker makes his enterance at the mob meeting, we hear a body slump and fall to the floor, just as the joker starts laughing!

I ALWAYS thought this was Gordon grunting as he kicks the money out of anger. Then one day while my friend was watching the movie, I wasn't really paying attention to the scene and it totally clicked that it was someone being killed by The Joker as he comes into the room.

 

[Anita18]

Prolly the dude with the metal detector, that the mobsters had to pass to get into the meeting.

No, Joker comes in through a different door. The Chechen goes into the room, then has to go around the table to sit next to Maroni. Joker goes into the room and sits at the head near the Chechen.

I ALWAYS thought this was Gordon grunting as he kicks the money out of anger. Then one day while my friend was watching the movie, I wasn't really paying attention to the scene and it totally clicked that it was someone being killed by The Joker as he comes into the room.

All I hear is a door opening, and I hear it very clearly. Nobody was manning that door, just like nobody's manning the door he goes out of.

 

[Killer Queen77]

I ALWAYS thought this was Gordon grunting as he kicks the money out of anger. Then one day while my friend was watching the movie, I wasn't really paying attention to the scene and it totally clicked that it was someone being killed by The Joker as he comes into the room.

I'm pretty sure it IS Gordon grunting as he kicks the pile of money on the floor. The Joker doesn't even enter the room from the same door as the other mobsters did. There's no metal detector guys on the side he enters from. He just appears to stroll in casually, doing that slow sarcastic laugh. I'm pretty sure he didn't kill anyone at that point.

EDIT - Ahaaa, I see Anita18 got in there first! I concur, Anita18. t: