The Dark Knight Rises Tom Hardy as Bane XV

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[Faramir]

Honestly guys, this thinly veiled sexual tension can only be solved via three-way.

It's okay, when it's in a 3-way. The Golden Rule.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

It's okay, when it's in a 3-way. The Golden Rule.

 

[Faramir]

I wholeheartedly agree.

While he IS the greatest villain in the Batman Universe (at this point), I tend to believe that other villains, such as Bane and Ra's al Ghul, provide a much more legitimate threat to Batman and Gotham.

I've read my share of comics, and although I am not an expert on the subject (compared to other members here), I've read enough to notice DC's 'direction' with some it's characters and plots. It's unfair but DC and Marvel prefer to stick with the characters that bring in the attention... even though the act has gotten stale, ancient and unbelievably repetitive.

I know. Writers will do anything the fans want, even for shock value only. They constantly cover their asses with little off-continuity experiments, anyway. Look:

 

[Travesty]

I know. Writers will do anything the fans want, even for shock value only. They constantly cover their asses with little off-continuity experiments, anyway. Look:

Are you now saying artists are the same as writers? That's a cover, not written story.....

 

[Bane.]

Quite a funny interview at the premire for tinker tailor, some reporter goes

"Now your in...The Dark Knight Rises? Havent heard of that is sounds like a vampire film."

Hardy just bursts out laughing

 

[Faramir]

Are you now saying artists are the same as writers? That's a cover, not written story.....

I'm saying DC likes to toy with the idea. The story became an excuse for a sensationalist front cover. To back it up, No Man's Land had the Joker at the mercy of Bane, completely defenseless, only to have Mercy making Bane leave at the last second.

Bat-lore is too frequently contradicting and looking for quick shock value. It sacrifices characters potential too often. I wholeheartedly believe that Batman's rogue gallery is the one with most potential in any superhero universe. I just wish they exploited it better.

 

[Goku Goes Crazy]

Quite a funny interview at the premire for tinker tailor, some reporter goes

"Now your in...The Dark Knight Rises? Havent heard of that is sounds like a vampire film."

Hardy just bursts out laughing

there a video for this? lol

Was the reporter being serious?

 

[Travesty]

I'm saying DC likes to toy with the idea. The story became an excuse for a sensationalist front cover. To back it up, No Man's Land had the Joker at the mercy of Bane, completely defenseless, only to have Mercy making Bane leave at the last second.

Bat-lore is too frequently contradicting and looking for quick shock value. It sacrifices characters potential too often. I wholeheartedly believe that Batman's rogue gallery is the one with most potential in any superhero universe. I just wish they exploited it better.

What do you think cover art is for? It's almost always different than what you get in the actual strips. It's to create shock value, so you notice the book, which has nothing to do with writers, although, that was your point.

In other words, your point is moot when your only reference to writers, is cover art.

 

[The Joker]

What do you think cover art is for? It's almost always different than what you get in the actual strips. It's to create shock value, so you notice the book, which has nothing to do with writers, although, that was your point.

In other words, your point is moot when your only reference to writers, is cover art.

Exactly.

Shockingly The Joker didn't grow into a hundred foot giant and pin Batman to a giant playing card in this story, despite what the cover shows:

 

[Faramir]

Exactly.

Shockingly The Joker didn't grow into a hundred foot giant and pin Batman to a giant playing card in this story, despite what the cover shows:

But this did happen.

You do honor your signature.

 

[KRIM]

there a video for this? lol

Was the reporter being serious?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMmxHKote28&feature=player_detailpage#t=134s

 

[The Joker]

But this did happen.

Yes, it did. Bane punched Joker around a couple of times.

Bane breaking Joker's back over his knee, like on that cover you posted, did not happen. That was just a visual homage to this:

You do honor your signature.

How?

 

[Faramir]

What do you think cover art is for? It's almost always different than what you get in the actual strips. It's to create shock value, so you notice the book, which has nothing to do with writers, although, that was your point.

In other words, your point is moot when your only reference to writers, is cover art.

My point is not moot. I don't have a problem with the cover art. I have a problem with the general direction of looking for new exciting stuff that readers can drool about, and the best way the writers can back that up is writing brief and sweeping passages that under-use great characters (i.e. Bane) and solve almost everything with deus ex machinas (a.k.a. Joker's primary writing device, apparently).

The cover was to illustrate my point, which is not moot. I'd rather have Bane break Joker's back (no matter how repetitive that is) if it's backed up with a real story, with real preparation, real execution, and real exploration of consequences. What I don't like is sad cop-outs of cheap and cheating storytelling. And that is on DC's and its writer's shoulders.

 

[Faramir]

Yes, it did. Bane punched Joker around a couple of times.

Bane breaking Joker's back over his knee, like on that cover you posted, did not happen. That was just a visual homage to this:

How?

I had already answered. Look at my replies to Travesty. The cover was to illustrate and reference my point. Why it was understood literally, I have no idea.


P.S. Most people who see a 'giant Joker holding a Batman card' cover understand it metaphorically. Bane breaking Joker's back was a cheap sales stunt.

 

[The Joker]

I had already answered. Look at my replies to Travesty. The cover was to illustrate and reference my point. Why it was understood literally, I have no idea.

No offense, but perhaps it's because you did a poor job of clarifying your point.

Not that I agree with the points you made either. No Man's Land is one of the greatest Batman stories ever told.

P.S. Most people who see a 'giant Joker holding a Batman card' cover understand it metaphorically. Bane breaking Joker's back was a cheap sales stunt.

Horse radish. That is a classic comic book cover trait. DC and Marvel do it all the time and have done for decades. The covers frequently have images that don't happen in the story. Another example, do you really think anyone believed Penguin murdered Batman when they saw this:

I have that comic. Penguin didn't get to shoot Batman at all in that story.

 

[Travesty]

My point is not moot. I don't have a problem with the cover art. I have a problem with the general direction of looking for new exciting stuff that readers can drool about, and the best way the writers can back that up is writing brief and sweeping passages that under-use great characters (i.e. Bane) and solve almost everything with deus ex machinas (a.k.a. Joker's primary writing device, apparently).

The cover was to illustrate my point, which is not moot. I'd rather have Bane break Joker's back (no matter how repetitive that is) if it's backed up with a real story, with real preparation, real execution, and real exploration of consequences. What I don't like is sad cop-outs of cheap and cheating storytelling. And that is on DC's and its writer's shoulders.

So you're saying that No Man's Land is a story with no preparation, no real execution, and is merely just "lazy", as you're trying to write it off?

I had already answered. Look at my replies to Travesty. The cover was to illustrate and reference my point. Why it was understood literally, I have no idea.

Because you were talking about how sensationalized DC writers are, and then said, "well look at this crazy pic", which has no basis to a very good Batman story. In other words, it makes no sense to even make that comparison, especially when attributing it to writers.

 

[Ultimatehero]

Forget the mask controversy. Hardy IS Bane. That mask is f-ing intimidating as hell! And the way he carries the role? I seriously think the third will be the best somehow. Beyond that? I will not say anything over anything, being already stationed within WB as a writer - I understand the reason for keeping some things secretive so don't try. I'm a closed book on this one. As said, as a writer - I respect creative license and output by the artist at hand.

 

[Bane.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMmxHKote28&feature=player_detailpage#t=134s

Bingo.
Hardys face of disbelief is brilliant

 

[lgi]

I would like to see Hardy take off his Bane mask at down times, at least once.

 

[Faramir]

No offense, but perhaps it's because you did a poor job of clarifying your point.

Point taken.

Not that I agree with the points you made either. No Man's Land is one of the greatest Batman stories ever told.

Agreed. I was just referring to the brief being referenced in that issue's cover, not the whole arc.

Horse radish. That is a classic comic book cover trait. DC and Marvel do it all the time and have done for decades. The covers frequently have images that don't happen in the story.

Alright, but even you must admit there are times when the cover actually depicts a strong motif in the story, and when it has no substance at all. Hush had this cover:

... and while Batman never dug a grave, it was thematically meaningful and connected to what was going on inside the pages. It could have easily happened, without question, and both Bruce and "Jason" were very well-written. It was a actually the focus of that issue's story.

I can't say the same on Bane breaking Joker's back. That confrontation was not even tertiary to the whole plot.

So you're saying that No Man's Land is a story with no preparation, no real execution, and is merely just "lazy", as you're trying to write it off?

Nope. Just that part. Read above.

Because you were talking about how sensationalized DC writers are, and then said, "well look at this crazy pic", which has no basis to a very good Batman story. In other words, it makes no sense to even make that comparison, especially when attributing it to writers.

They are. How did that cover relate to the whole arc? Or to that issue? The way the writers backed the cover up was a sad excuse for a scene that ended up butchering a constantly underrated character, again. I do have a problem with that.

But I admit I was not being clear in my first post. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[EliteF50]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMmxHKote28&feature=player_detailpage#t=134s

He hardly bust out laughing, but thanks for the video. Hardy looks great!

 

[Octoberist]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMmxHKote28&feature=player_detailpage#t=134s

I think the interviewer was trying to be funny but it was rather dry.. Notice how he blew off Dark Knight Rises and it was done in a casual but facetious way.

 

[craigdbfan]

I think Hardy is wondering if he was doing that or if he was serious. It got him by surprise a little.

He handled it well either way.