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JAK®;19513827 said:
If you expect something and you get what you expected... that's the exact opposite of disappointment.

AHHH okay :) that makes sense. Thanks. For some reason I couldn't see that.
 
I think Mr. Snyder should stay away from 'another' origin story. Superman is iconic & a legend in that regards. Everyone knows his history. Do we really need to pay to see it yet again? Do something different for Pete's sake & dare to be original. Lets see Superman go toe to toe with Doomsday or something far from the norm I hope we dont get.
 
I don't think as many people know Superman's origins as much as the folk around here think. I mean, people in their late 20s or 30s, sure. But people my age, in their late teens and early 20s, that aren't really comic fans don't know. Aren't they part of the key demographic for superhero movies? Whenever Superman comes up they usually only know/think they know the following:

1. What he looks like.
2. Clark Kent is his name.
3. He's too strong and that makes him "gay"

I think at least some attention should be payed to the origin. If not a full-blown origin story at least reference it.
 
While you may think so I think the elements of Superman's story are far more widely know than you assume it is. He has not been off TV screens in one form or another, many of those elements are as well known as characters from any other beloved cartoon ... for those who didn't read the comics.
 
Well, there would be a lot less complaining. But I never said you should have super-low expectations for every movie or that you shouldn't look forward to a movie. If you see evidence that a movie won't meet high expectations why would you still have high expectations?

You might not have high expectations but fans can still hold out hope that the promotional material isn't an accurate representation of the quality of the film.

I think at least some attention should be payed to the origin. If not a full-blown origin story at least reference it.

I'd take the reference. After all the superhero origin movies that have come out lately I think audiences could be origined out. Superman could set himself apart by only having a quick reference to the origin and getting straight to the action. Perhaps a deeper examination of the circumstances of his birth and/or childhood could be saved for sequels.
 
You might not have high expectations but fans can still hold out hope that the promotional material isn't an accurate representation of the quality of the film.
I do have high expectations for Green Lantern, there's not a single movie (besides Dark Knight Rises and Man of Steel) that I'm more looking forward to... But okay.

All I was saying is, as Jak put it, expecting something to disappoint you is an oxymoron.
 
I'd take the reference. After all the superhero origin movies that have come out lately I think audiences could be origined out. Superman could set himself apart by only having a quick reference to the origin and getting straight to the action. Perhaps a deeper examination of the circumstances of his birth and/or childhood could be saved for sequels.

Remember the old Fleischer cartoons and how they captured the origin in every episode? That's kinda iconic and reminiscent of the introductory caption-box at the beginning of nearly every comic book. What if they took that route? Like TIH? The way they did it in Superman Returns was also similar, but would using it like that make people compare this to the last film?
 
I'm good with whatever they decide, but i'd like to see them do the origin in the opening credits in a half comic book, half live action mix.

You have the pages of a comic open and you see mile high towers, lush greenery, weird animal life, small spacecraft/cars? zipping by here and there, but with real people walking in the fore and background, with a voice over by a famous actor.

He tells the story with each turn of the page, again with real people interacting with the CB art, and so on and so forth, we see the rocket launch of Kal-el, smallville, etc etc.

It would transition from the pages of a comic to all live action when clark arrives in metropolis and he looks up at the tall skyscrapers for the very first time.
 
I really rather not see another 30-45 mins. of film watching the space craft crash to earth, baby Clark giggling, teen Clark leaping over cornfields, his HS years trying to fit in up to the Daily Planet.

Boring. Yaaaaaaawn. Been there seen that, can we just move on?
 
Christopher Nolan talks 'Dark Knight Rises' and says Henry Cavill is going to be 'amazing' as 'Superman' in Santa Barbara
Gregory Ellwood said:
While most of Hollywood was enjoying the 2011 SAG Awards Sunday evening, Christopher Nolan was being lauded at this year's Santa Barbara Film Festival where he was honored with the festival's Modern Master Award.

The "Inception" filmmaker, who was snubbed by his peers in the Academy's directing branch less than a week ago, seemed in good spirits as he engaged in a Q&A about his critically acclaimed thriller and his upcoming films "The Dark Knight Rises" and "Superman," which he is producing.

While Awards Campaign was back in LA with eyes glued to the SAG Awards, the always classy Pete Hammond reminded Nolan that he'd seemed set on ending his journey with the Caped Crusader after "The Dark Knight Returns." What changed his mind exactly?

"I think realy it was about finishing the story. For me it's about…knowing where I want to go with the thing and I think with Batman the story we're going to tell is Bruce Wayne's story. So, that's what gets me excited about getting back into something," Nolan says. "The sequel thing is rather interesting because there is a lot of comfort in the familiarity of it, but there is also a challenge of reinventing it for yourself as well as the audience. You just can't do the same things again. But once you start thinking about Bruce Wayne's story you want to see where that goes."

Nolan was also asked about his involvement on the new "Superman." He clearly wants everyone to know this is Snyder's movie -- a director looking out for another director -- but did sound like he's excited about the new Man of Steel.

"What I'm doing on that is that I hired a great director to take it on and it's more his problem than mine hopefully," Nolan says laughing. "I'm going to be very busy, but I'm super excited to watch Zack's movie when its done and I think Henry [Cavill] is going to be amazing."
 
So there we go. People can shut up about Nolan as if he was the director.
 
JAK®;19618604 said:
So there we go. People can shut up about Nolan as if he was the director.
He said the same thing over a month ago and that didn't stop anyone. :o
 
So then Snyder was his choice and not some studio-imposed decision.
 
Or that's what they want you to think...
 
It bugs me how Snyder gets basically no credit for this film, even Nolan ha said its Snyder's movie.
 
It bugs me how Snyder gets basically no credit for this film, even Nolan ha said its Snyder's movie.
He'll get credit alright... if the film sucks.
 
....The very title of this thread dosent help things, to be honest.
 
It bugs me how Snyder gets basically no credit for this film, even Nolan ha said its Snyder's movie.
he will get credit for super angle and action and slow motion. and a hot Lois Lane in a short skirt

:awesome:
 
JAK®;19622884 said:
He'll get credit alright... if the film sucks.

Until we have an idea on how much input Snyder has if the story sucks & everything else sucks the Nolan name gets the blame since he was on this production before anyone else
 
It bugs me how Snyder gets basically no credit for this film, even Nolan ha said its Snyder's movie.
people even think nolan had the hand in casting cavill because he auditioned for batman 6 years go lol

even tho nolan had no idea who he was when interviewed he was "whoever you just named " LOL

even tho he is line with zack's previous casting - unknown but good actors but nolan still gets the credit for casting him
 
people even think nolan had the hand in casting cavill because he auditioned for batman 6 years go lol

even tho nolan had no idea who he was when interviewed he was "whoever you just named " LOL

even tho he is line with zack's previous casting - unknown but good actors but nolan still gets the credit for casting him

No it was Bale who didn't know who Cavill was. Nolan clearly knew in his interview. I'm sure it was Snyder's choice, I don't think Nolan said you have to cast this guy but I reckon Snyder may have run it past him. When the story broke of Cavill's casting a report did say that Zak Snyder and Chris Nolan had chosen him from his screen test and then taken it to Robinov. But its Snyder's film and even in the interview with Nolan he said that its Zak's movie and he can't wait to watch it.
 

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