Days of Future Past What you didn't like about X-Men:DOFP - Flaws/Critiques

[Legion]

It's a problem because if the next film is Beast and crew...well...Beast aint gonna die. No matter what Apocalypse throws at him, we know he must survive. The same can be said for every character still alive when Prof X is an old man. No one alive at that time can possibly die while the younger actors are playing these roles.

We really don't know enough about the Apocalypse plot. We know it takes place in the '80s and will focus on the "FC" cast but there may very well be time travel or other alternate universe antics that haven't been revealed yet which would make the events of the film impactful.

 

[psylockolussus]

This makes every future movie that hasn't even been made a prequel. I hate when comics do this nonsense, and I'm not going to start liking it when movies do it. Basically, every X-Men movie for the next generation will be prequel films to the last few minutes of this movie.

Well thats what happened when you do movies set in the past.

 

[Heretic]

Well thats what happened when you do movies set in the past.

But it could have been avoided had they just blinked out of the future and then not returned to it. Having the future be a mystery is so much better than having everyone walking around happy, long after the next several movies that aren't even made happen.

 

[Matt.S99]

When the drama involves life and death struggles and I know that EVERYONE lives...it hurts the drama. There are so many X-Men characters...I am willing to accept some of them dying to make room for more.

Okay, I get that and your point is totally valid, but again, it can very well be the last time we get to see the OT cast like this again. That's why it was done. Just gotta look past it.

 

[psylockolussus]

But it could have been avoided had they just blinked out of the future and then not returned to it. Having the future be a mystery is so much better than having everyone walking around happy, long after the next several movies that aren't even made happen.

Well they didn't do that.

And like I said before, if they were really over with the OT cast, they wouldn't show the altered future. They would have just left things in 1973.

 

[Matt.S99]

If anything, I think the scene means they are pretty much over with the OT cast, for the most part. And made it a nice moment of nostalgia.

 

[psylockolussus]

"We have a lot of catching up to do"

Hmmm I don't think so.

 

[Matt.S99]

That's just a line. It doesn't mean anything. It could just very well have been a line to make us go, ''Awesome! That was really cool! We know the X-Men do more things in the future.'' Us seeing that is another story.
I'm not saying it's a for sure thing that they won't come back, and I do hope they do, but I'm not holding my breath.
Unless they just do X:A in the 80's and then revert back to using the OT cast and setting everything from 2023 onwards.
But again, I'm doubtful. I don't think they will get letting go of Jen Lawrence, Fassbender, Mcavoy, and now Tatum. I feel Gambit being in the next film and casting Tatum means that they want to use him as the ''next Wolverine'' and take the series in that direction. Maybe a couple flash forward scenes? Or more time travel, lol.

 

[Feenix]

For me, the one aspect of the movie that bothers me is the time in between FC and this movie. The future is easier to wrap my head around because I can see it taking a decade to destroy the world like the sentinels did. But 10 years between the events on the beach in Cuba and this? And Magneto looks awesome for a guy who was being fed scraps for the last decade. Also, when Havok asks Raven where Erik is and she says she's on her own now, it sounds like they were just together and split up, not that she's been on her own for years.

Havok shouldn't have to ask where Erik is. Unless he was hiding under a rock, he should know that Erik assassinated the president. That would be big news.

 

[psylockolussus]

That's just a line. It doesn't mean anything.

That doesn't mean anything? Then they should have removed that line, right? It could be a hint. And the producers already said they are open to do more films with the OT cast and even Patrick Stewart gave a hint in doing more X-Men films. The fact that Fox is not saying that this is it for the OT cast, means its not really the end for them. It could be, but its not set in stone.

 

[Heretic]

For me, the one aspect of the movie that bothers me is the time in between FC and this movie. The future is easier to wrap my head around because I can see it taking a decade to destroy the world like the sentinels did. But 10 years between the events on the beach in Cuba and this? And Magneto looks awesome for a guy who was being fed scraps for the last decade. Also, when Havok asks Raven where Erik is and she says she's on her own now, it sounds like they were just together and split up, not that she's been on her own for years.

Havok shouldn't have to ask where Erik is. Unless he was hiding under a rock, he should know that Erik assassinated the president. That would be big news.

It would not be big news. The world does not know that mutants exist...and the government wants to keep it that way...so they tossed Magneto underground and never told anyone about his involvement...and then publicly arrested and killed a patsy named Lee Harvey Oswald just to close the case for the public.

 

[Liam_H]

So if we get both casts back, are they just gonna alternate movies from present and past?

 

[Heretic]

Oh lord...fans just cant accept anyone ever leaving a movie franchise.

There is ZERO need now for two Magnetos, two Xaviers etc in these freaking movies.

 

[Matt.S99]

Then why would they cast a huge A list ''it'' man like Tatum in a movie that will still take place in the past, if they are just looking to go back to using the OT cast?

Again, I'm not saying they won't. I am not working on the films, so I have no clue. But personally, I just dont see it happening. At least, not many more movies with them. Maybe 1.

The way I see it, they have this HUGE time gap between DOFP and the future scene for a reason. Gives them alot of room to make more films set in the past.

 

[Feenix]

We won't get the OT cast back (except maybe Wolverine). It's over, the actors are done and moving on to other projects. It's not a bad thing.

 

[CaptainCanada]

So if we get both casts back, are they just gonna alternate movies from present and past?

No, I would say this is pretty clearly a swan song for the original cast.

 

[Liam_H]

That just a genuine question to people who want to see the original cast in another movie.

 

[Matt.S99]

So, I'm not the only one who thinks that. Good

I would absolutely love more films with the OT cast. Who wouldnt? I just don't see it happening. I feel they would have left that scene out entirely or at least not have such a big time gap if they wanted to do more films with them.

 

[psylockolussus]

Then why would they cast a huge A list ''it'' man like Tatum in a movie that will still take place in the past, if they are just looking to go back to using the OT cast?

Again, I'm not saying they won't. I am not working on the films, so I have no clue. But personally, I just dont see it happening. At least, not many more movies with them. Maybe 1.

Channing Tatum is not even 100% confirmed. We also don't know if he's gonna be a X-Men, a villain or a horseman of Apocalypse.

I just think they wouldn't do this altered future and bring everybody back only to tell the audience that thats the end for the original cast.

If DOFP performs really well at the box-office, the media would see the return of the original cast as a big factor to that, as they already labeled the OT cast as the "box-office rescue" read Box Office Mojo and Box Office.com.

 

[Matt.S99]

Channing Tatum is not even 100% confirmed. We also don't know if he's gonna be a X-Men, a villain or a horseman of Apocalypse.

I just think they wouldn't do this altered future and bring everybody back only to tell the audience that thats the end for the original cast.

If DOFP performs really well at the box-office, the media would see the return of the original cast as a big factor to that, as they already labeled the OT cast as the "box-office rescue" read Box Office Mojo and Box Office.com.

And I think that is EXACTLY why they included that scene. As a nice nod/ fairwell to the beloved OT cast.

 

[Rike]

http://www.hitfix.com/news/x-men-producers-say-another-film-with-the-original-cast-is-possible

 

[CaptainCanada]

I just think they wouldn't do this altered future and bring everybody back only to tell the audience that thats the end for the original cast.

The altered future is a way to show the audience that the things they didn't like about X-Men: The Last Stand were fixed. X-Men: Apocalypse is in 2016, and will be centered around the newer characters (gotta get that last film out of JLaw while they still have her contracted cheap). Stewart and McKellen will be approaching 80 by the point they might start to think about another one (2018 or so), Janssen and Berry past 50, etc. And most of the original cast is barely in the movie, anyway.

It's "possible", but I rather doubt it.

 

[D.P.]

A complaint thread at the top. I can't even be surprised.

 

[Matt.S99]

Yes, that is cool. Things are said all the time though. Donner said on a red carpet interview to forget about X3 and Origins(But didnt say the same about X1,X2,TW). Both films are still ''canon'' to the one time line. So what does that mean?

I do hope that they are being truthful and that something else can happen with the OT cast, but I think it's more possible that they will continue here on out with the FC cast instead.

 

[Heretic]

The complaints are fairly minor...or at least they are big complaints that are small pieces of an overall great movie.