Days of Future Past What you didn't like about X-Men:DOFP - Flaws/Critiques

[PunyGod]

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[DrDoom]

Yeah, I'm glad they scaled Wolvie's powers back from that ridiculous idea lol

 

[Cosmic]

Yes, thank you. What's he going to do next, lift an entire city?

 

[Majik1387]

I think he means the weight of all the other materials should make it harder, like lifting a piece of rebar by it self is easier than a piece of rebar surrounded by 100 tons of concrete

I don't recall Magneto lifting the stadium came across as some easy feat for him to accomplish.

Sounds nitpicky as hell to say he can't move a stadium.

 

[Cosmic]

Yes, that pesky source material. It's only the reason why we even have X-Men films, anyway. It's not like somebody else created these characters and stories before they appeared in Hollywood.

In DOFP, Magneto could've used the train tracks to steal/transport the Sentinels to his secret hideout and then reprogrammed them, using his technical skill. That's all they had to do to have it make sense.

And of course, Wolverine doing that was complete BS. You should be ashamed to even bring that up.

 

[danoyse]

How about toning down the snark a bit, folks?

 

[Majik1387]

Yes, that pesky source material. It's only the reason why we even have X-Men films, anyway. It's not like somebody else created these characters and stories before they appeared in Hollywood.

In DOFP, Magneto could've used the train tracks to steal/transport the Sentinels to his secret hideout and then reprogrammed them, using his technical skill. That's all they had to do to have it make sense.

And have the U.S. Government on higher alert that their mutant hunting robots have gone missing putting them more on their guard? No.

Magneto knew it was smarter to infiltrate with said weapons instead of stealing or transporting them elsewhere, so no one would suspect anything when he strikes.

 

[danoyse]

And I don't think he reprogrammed them. He just infused them with the metal and worked them like puppets. He was studying the blueprints he took from Trask's presentation in Paris, and he spilt the railroad tracks down like wires and ran them through each of the Sentinels.

They were still working the way they were supposed to: when they saw Wolverine and Beast, it registered them as mutants and went after them. He was just keeping them from firing on him and Mystique the same way he was controlling the rest of the guns there.

 

[PunyGod]

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[nycgirl]

Yeah, way overpowered (though I would like to see the use of force fields).

I'm surprised no one mentioned Magneto dragging Mystique around by the bullet in her leg. I think drawing the bullet toward him should have only created an exit wound, rather than pull the weight of an entire body for several yards. Just a minor quibble, though. It didn't really take me out of the scene.

 

[psylockolussus]

Yes, thank you. What's he going to do next, lift an entire city?

If the city is made of metal, then why not.

 

[PunyGod]

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[X-Maniac]

And I don't think he reprogrammed them. He just infused them with the metal and worked them like puppets. He was studying the blueprints he took from Trask's presentation in Paris, and he spilt the railroad tracks down like wires and ran them through each of the Sentinels.

They were still working the way they were supposed to: when they saw Wolverine and Beast, it registered them as mutants and went after them. He was just keeping them from firing on him and Mystique the same way he was controlling the rest of the guns there.

Yes, I agree. It wasn't a 'reprogramming' as such, though that word has been used to describe it for want of a better phrase. He just used the metal to work them like puppets, as you say.

 

[RLAAMJR.]

I prefer a long white hair for Storm. She's more noticeable with long white hair.

No Rogue

Not enough battle scene in the future. Singer could have added at least 10 more minutes for the x-men in the future battling against the sentinels before they got killed.

 

[Havok83]

her hair looked like absolute crap with long hair in the movies. The only time she had decent hair was X-men The Last Stand. She hasn't had the best stylists in the movieverse

 

[nycgirl]

Agreed. I was looking forward to seeing the long white mane, but when I laid eyes on those ratched bangs... Smh. Where did they dig up her stylist? I know regular women who aren't contracted by Hollywood blockbusters who consistently keep their weaves looking fly.

It got better, though. The soft layers she had in X2 worked.

 

[DrDoom]

Was hoping, what with the apocalyptic setting, that she'd sport the mohawk in DOFP

 

[Nicky]

- JFK being a mutant. No, just no.
- Never explaining where Kitty Pryde's sudden ability to transport people through time came from.
- Wolverine being sent back to a time when Magneto and Professor X couldn't be further apart. Um, why?
- Not explaining how Charles got to keep his body. Yes, I've heard the lame twin brother story but it's ever actually addressed in the movie. Also, his twin brother conveniently can't walk either? lol
- Wolverine's adamantium claws
- Why was Charles able to walk when he visited Jean?
- Storm being completely side lined once again

Logan's butt shot did get a few snickers at my viewing, I guess it's just not something you'd see in a superhero movie, ....although even in Superman The Movie we did see little Kal-El's baby peepee when the Kents find him.

I was completely taken aback by that! A woman in my theatre could be heard groaning pleasurably though...

 

[Majik1387]

- JFK being a mutant. No, just no.

- Never explaining where Kitty Pryde's sudden ability to transport people through time came from.

Secondary mutation.

- Wolverine being sent back to a time when Magneto and Professor X couldn't be further apart. Um, why?

That's the time that set DoFP in motion; Xavier and Charles happened to be further apart at that time, that's why.

- Not explaining how Charles got to keep his body. Yes, I've heard the lame twin brother story but it's ever actually addressed in the movie. Also, his twin brother conveniently can't walk either? lol

First, it was never a twin brother. That was just bad fan-speculation.
Second, Xavier transferred his consciousness into the patient Moira was watching.

- Wolverine's adamantium claws

It is entirely possible he got them back somehow; popular opinion suggest Magneto gave them back, but it doesn't matter at this point.

- Why was Charles able to walk when he visited Jean?

It was a different reality, which is now non-existent.

- Storm being completely side lined once again

Not really.

I was completely taken aback by that! A woman in my theatre could be heard groaning pleasurably though...

It's just a butt. Mystique's has been shown non-stop in all of the movies, it just gets a pass because it's female and blue.

 

[MarvelU]

Magneto can't reprogram computers by infusing them with metal.

I don't think he re-programmed specifically via code and such, he probably found a way to make their components work with wires and electricity and magnetism running through them by studying the blue-print. He probably found a way to activate them via the blue prints and then with the new circuits found a way to make them shoot (via his control) without the need of the mutant detector gadget (although there were 4 mutants in the crowd, but Magneto controlled where the Sentinel would fire). Then he would guide them to specific mutants, seen as one Sentinel tried to attack him when he lost focus. Of course this does mean that Magneto is somewhat of a genius in electro-magnetic equipment and robotics (which was never hinted at in First Class).

 

[Nicky]

Secondary mutation.

Not. Explained.

That's the time that set DoFP in motion; Xavier and Charles happened to be further apart at that time, that's why.

You obviously don't seem to get my point so let me spell it out for you: They could have gone back way before that, even before Emma Frost and co were murdered to warn everybody about the upcoming events.

First, it was never a twin brother. That was just bad fan-speculation.Second, Xavier transferred his consciousness into the patient Moira was watching.

That doesn't answer why he's back in his own body after it got obliterated.

It is entirely possible he got them back somehow; popular opinion suggest Magneto gave them back, but it doesn't matter at this point.

Of course it does.

It was a different reality, which is now non-existent.

Lazy.

 

[danoyse]

There's a sudden overabundance of being used in place of conversation. You've all rolled your eyes at each other enough, stick to your words now.

You obviously don't seem to get my point so let me spell it out for you: They could have gone back way before that, even before Emma Frost and co were murdered to warn everybody about the upcoming events.

You seem to be the one missing the point. They sent Wolverine back to a specific date to stop a specific event. It happened to be at a time when Charles and Eric were at odds, but Trask's assassination was the catalyst for the entire Sentinel creation that destroyed the planet, so that was why they went back to that specific date to stop that from happening. It was explained that Kitty's ability to transport people that far back was dangerous, so they weren't going to risk going back any further than they already were. Saving the world was more important than saving a handful of mutants, well-liked as they were.

Plus, sending him back to a time when everyone got along would be kinda boring.

 

[Majik1387]

Not. Explained.

It doesn't have to be explained.

You obviously don't seem to get my point so let me spell it out for you: They could have gone back way before that, even before Emma Frost and co were murdered to warn everybody about the upcoming events.

I get it just fine. Charles and Erik happened to be at odds over the events that happened after XMFC to the 1970s when Wolvie was sent back. People hold grudges; Wolvie happened to be thrown in the middle of one between them because it was at that time the Sentinels were given the go ahead. Not anytime beforehand; it wouldn't make sense for Wolvie to go back any earlier than he did, especially to warn them about mutant hunting robots that wouldn't exist for 10 years or so. What would they do with that info farther in the past? No you send the problem solver to where the problem began.

That doesn't answer why he's back in his own body after it got obliterated.

It's a new body, that just happens to look like his old body.

Of course it does.

Not at all. The future Wolvie had in DoFP before changing it is gone and rewritten. Why he had adamantium claws at the temple doesn't matter; that future doesn't exist anymore.

Lazy.

Not really. Marvel comics, especially the X-Men series is known for having multi-verses. Age of Apocalypse, Exiles, Days of Future Past, Bishop's timeline, Nimrod, etc.

There's a sudden overabundance of being used in place of conversation. You've all rolled your eyes at each other enough, stick to your words now.

A whole use of them 3 times is an overabundance now?

You seem to be the one missing the point. They sent Wolverine back to a specific date to stop a specific event. It happened to be at a time when Charles and Eric were at odds, but Trask's assassination was the catalyst for the entire Sentinel creation that destroyed the planet, so that was why they went back to that specific date to stop that from happening. It was explained that Kitty's ability to transport people that far back was dangerous, so they weren't going to risk going back any further than they already were. Saving the world was more important than saving a handful of mutants, well-liked as they were.

Exactly.

 

[Nicky]

You seem to be the one missing the point. They sent Wolverine back to a specific date to stop a specific event. It happened to be at a time when Charles and Eric were at odds, but Trask's assassination was the catalyst for the entire Sentinel creation that destroyed the planet, so that was why they went back to that specific date to stop that from happening.

Again, my point has been missed. They could have warned Mystique and the others about Trask beforehand. Before the mutants were killed which lead to Mystique wanting to murder him. Before he even built the Sentinels. Furthermore, if they did we would have been able to have Emma Frost in this continuity but that's not gonna happen now.

It was explained that Kitty's ability to transport people that far back was dangerous, so they weren't going to risk going back any further than they already were. Saving the world was more important than saving a handful of mutants, well-liked as they were.

Nope, it would have been dangerous for the other mutants but not for Wolverine whose "mind can heal as fast as it breaks". They said it themselves. That's the reason why they sent him back in the first place. He could go back as far as he wanted because his mind could heal as fast as it disintegrated.

Plus, sending him back to a time when everyone got along would be kinda boring.

tbh that's the real reason, innit. It was purely plot convenience.

 

[danoyse]

A whole use of them 3 times is an overabundance now?

In a row? Yes.