Why Thor or Superman cannot beat Sentry.

[Venom.Symbiote]

Basically comicbook fights are like professional wrestling: Anyone can beat anyone else on any given day, providing the script writer deems it so. You just can't believe everything you see.

 

[Guyverjay]

JLA/Avengers isn't canon regardless of that dumbass egg of Krona's

Kurt Busieks ego is astounding

 

[Whirlysplat]

JLA/Avengers isn't canon regardless of that dumbass egg of Krona's

Kurt Busieks ego is astounding

You like Thor huh.

- Whirly

 

[Whirlysplat]

Actually, all Prof X has to do is switch Flash's brain off and crawl across the finish line.

Unfotunate flaw to this, The Flash is many times faster than the speed of thought.



- Whirly

 

[Whirlysplat]

Superman hasn't been able to move planets for at least 20 years. I agree that it makes sense that not every powerful hero wins every fight against a weaker opponent. What I don't agree with is that in the specific Venom/Supes fight shown, there's no logic given for why that fight would ever work. Venom just shows up and starts beating on Superman like Superman's a child. At least when they had Spider-Man fight Superman they came up with a somewhat plausible explanation for how it'd work despite the power gap--red sun radiation. Spider-Man was saturated with it and it basically bypasses Superman's powers since Kryptonians are no different from humans under a red sun. In that Venom fight Venom kicked Superman around because... why? It made no sense when you compare their respective powers and in-canon feats.

When he hears Luthor has been elected President he travels at 13 times the speed of light and smashes his way straight through a moon of Saturn, like a knife through butter in a fraction of a fraction of a second my friend.

- Whirly

 

[Horrorfan]

Unfotunate flaw to this, The Flash is many times faster than the speed of thought.



- Whirly

That's just stupid. That's just DC for ya


BTW another reason Sentry could take Supes...Carnage is stronger than Venom, right? And Venom manhandled Supes....but Sentry destroyed Carnage with ease!


Oh yes... I went there.

 

[Guyverjay]

You like Thor huh.

- Whirly

I like good comics hence why I don't like JLA/Avengers

 

[Guyverjay]

Unfotunate flaw to this, The Flash is many times faster than the speed of thought.



- Whirly

Yet Gorilla Grodd and brainiac have managed it, comics are strange like that

 

[Genesis 1.0]

Yet Gorilla Grodd and brainiac have managed it, comics are strange like that

*Wipes a tear away from his eyes*

I completely forgot about Grodd doing that to Flash.

 

[Guyverjay]

When he hears Luthor has been elected President he travels at 13 times the speed of light and smashes his way straight through a moon of Saturn, like a knife through butter in a fraction of a fraction of a second my friend.

- Whirly

He doesn't smash through anything, he merely cleaves a trench through it as far as I remember. That feat is lame anyway

 

[Whirlysplat]

He doesn't smash through anything, he merely cleaves a trench through it as far as I remember. That feat is lame anyway

Work out the stats and the picture shows the moon being halved. The feat is not as lame as Thor and the "Midgard serpent".

As for the Flash and Gorilla Grodd we call theis PIS "Plot induced stupidity". The Flash if he does not wait to be taken over should be to fast, the Grodd psychic takeover is silly but it happened in canon. His neural impulses are also moving superfast which makes it doubly silly, still it happened in continuity so it's canon. Just like the "Thorbuster" punch.

- Whirly

 

[Guyverjay]

Work out the stats and the picture shows the moon being halved. The feat is not as lame as Thor and the "Midgard serpent".

Not in the picture I remember smiley but if you can provide the shot that proves otherwise I will retract. But since you mention canon how about the time when Supers explicited stated he wasn't faster than light. I can call all the times he apparently goes multiple light speed WS (writer stupidity). You are correct both feats are lame

As for the Flash and Gorilla Grodd we call theis PIS "Plot induced stupidity".

LOL "we"?. Like you're in some exclusive club

The Flash if he does not wait to be taken over should be to fast, the Grodd psychic takeover is silly but it happened in canon. His neural impulses are also moving superfast which makes it doubly silly, still it happened in continuity so it's canon. Just like the "Thorbuster" punch.

- Whirly

What is it with you and Thor anyway

Do you have some lame ass idea that he's my favourite character or something? That would be corp not I. Thor isn't even in my top ten

P.s until MARVEL recognise it as canon, it isn't. You know what with Thor being THEIR character an all After all at that moment in time Thor wasn't on the avengers and he had the odin power

 

[Whirlysplat]

What is it with you and Thor anyway

Do you have some lame ass idea that he's my favourite character or something? That would be corp

P.s until MARVEL recognise it as canon, it isn't. You know what with Thor being THEIR character an all After all at that moment in time Thor wasn't on the avengers and he had the odin power

Check out the official Avengers handbook

- Whirly

 

[Guyverjay]

Handbooks and thier contents have never been canon so there is no need

 

[Whirlysplat]

Handbooks and thier contents have never been canon so there is no need

It's acknowledgement by Marvel, which is what you asked for. Sorry what's the point of the up to date handbooks then?

- Whirly

 

[Guyverjay]

It's acknowledgement by marvel which is what you asked for. Sorry whats the point of the up to date handbooks then?

- Whirly

Acknowledgement in an (in continuity) C-O-M-I-C book makes it canon not a handbook. Geez if we took everything that has ever been printed in a handbook as canon half the feats of the marvel universe would make no sense

 

[Whirlysplat]

Acknowledgement in an (in continuity) C-O-M-I-C book makes it canon not a handbook. Geez if we took everything that has ever been printed in a handbook as canon half the feats of the marvel universe would make no sense

Ummm, half the feats do make sense? Right........

So why do Marvel publish handbooks then? To provide stats and facts obviously. You're changing your goalposts, you asked for acknoledgement by Marvel and I provided a reference.

- Whirly

 

[Guyverjay]

Ummm, half the feats do make sense? Right........

So why do Marvel publish handbooks then? To provide stats and facts obviously. You're changing your goalposts, you asked for acknoledgement by Marvel and I provided a reference.

- Whirly

Okay (EdIt that since its true) Ice man was never in X-factor after all its in a handbook so it must be true

Nobody around takes handbooks as canon, if you want to, go ahead. Marvel have been printed stats for years, I suppose anytime namor has lifted over 85-90 tons it must NOT be canon because handbooks have stated thats all he can lift...right?

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

To start off if anyone has anything to say to change my opinion go ahead. I am open minded.

Sentry was able to defeat Carnage easily, no more than one page. When Superman fought Venom, who is supposedly weaker than Carnage, gave Superman a pretty hard time even with Spiderman helping.

So not only that but when Thor fought Superman he lost so that means he is weaker than Superman and if he fought Venom he would have a challenge (and be being a Venom fanboy I think he would lose ).

Also lets compare Venom in the Marvel universe. He beat Spiderman up easily who was able to defeat Firelord (Venom obviously cant beat Firelord but I am referring to physical strength), he was able to withstand Juggernauts punches and saying "it tickles", Venom was able to beat Wolverine, and there are others.

So how strong is Sentry? I dont think we saw the limit yet but we know he is stronger than Thor or Superman.

First off,you actually belived anything in New Avengers?That slop that Bendis wrote?NA is going to be disbanded,and hopefully reconned.So that sence is already out of the way,Carnage compaired to villians that Thor or Superman has fought,will only make for a mind nusiance.

Cross overs...i would not really trust,for the most part they can be wrong at times.Sentry is not stronger than Thor or Superman,since he will be downgraded,its all a matter of time.

 

[Purple Man]

First off,you actually belived anything in New Avengers?That slop that Bendis wrote?NA is going to be disbanded,and hopefully reconned.So that sence is already out of the way,Carnage compaired to villians that Thor or Superman has fought,will only make for a mind nusiance.

Cross overs...i would not really trust,for the most part they can be wrong at times.Sentry is not stronger than Thor or Superman,since he will be downgraded,its all a matter of time.

Waah waah. I don't like Bendis. He changed my stale old Avengers with something fresh and new. All this change is too much for me. If it doesn't stay relatively the same for forty years, I don't like it.

Change is bad, writers should write the same stories that our parents read back in the sixties. You kids today.

Oh yeah, did I say "Waah waah" yet. Because I want you all to know how much I hate Bendis' hack writing.

 

[Whirlysplat]

Okay (EdIt that since its true) Ice man was never in X-factor after all its in a handbook so it must be true

Nobody around takes handbooks as canon, if you want to, go ahead. Marvel have been printed stats for years, I suppose anytime namor has lifted over 85-90 tons it must NOT be canon because handbooks have stated thats all he can lift...right?

Actually most forums accept handbooks in my experience. Although errors do get made. The fact JLA/ Avengers is included is acknowledgement by Marvel of the event in Avengers mainstream history.

If you want to disregard Marvel and DC's later inclusion of the event in their characters histories then that's your choice. I choose to go with Marvel and DC over you, that's my choice. It's no biggie.

- Whirly

 

[Genesis 1.0]

Waah waah. I don't like Bendis. He changed my stale old Avengers with something fresh and new. All this change is too much for me. If it doesn't stay relatively the same for forty years, I don't like it.

Change is bad, writers should write the same stories that our parents read back in the sixties. You kids today.

Oh yeah, did I say "Waah waah" yet. Because I want you all to know how much I hate Bendis' hack writing.

^^^^^Post of the Month.

It's the same tears, the same whining, and the obession with the ideal that their opinon adds up to fact.

 

[Purple Man]

I'm going to sail a ship on a sea of fanboy tears.

It will be called the 'S.S. Change is good so shut up and quit whining' and will be made of issues of New Avengers and Civil War that people discarded in fits of fanboyish rage because hacks like Millar and Bendis ruined such classic characters that were doing so well before they came along.

 

[Guyverjay]

Actually most forums accept handbooks in my experience.
Although errors do get made. The fact JLA/ Avengers is included is acknowledgement by Marvel of the event in Avengers mainstream history.

If you want to disregard Marvel and DC's later inclusion of the event in their characters histories then that's your choice. I choose to go with Marvel and DC over you, that's my choice. It's no biggie.

- Whirly

I choose the opposite you know the actual comics themselves

 

[Whirlysplat]

I'm going to sail a ship on a sea of fanboy tears.

It will be called the 'S.S. Change is good so shut up and quit whining' and will be made of issues of New Avengers and Civil War that people discarded in fits of fanboyish rage because hacks like Millar and Bendis ruined such classic characters that were doing so well before they came along.

I love this post because it's so true. Change is good usually imo.

Actually most forums accept handbooks in my experience. Although errors do get made. The fact JLA/ Avengers is included is acknowledgement by Marvel of the event in Avengers mainstream history.

If you want to disregard Marvel and DC's later inclusion of the event in their characters histories then that's your choice. I choose to go with Marvel and DC over you, that's my choice. It's no biggie.

- Whirly

I choose the opposite you know the actual comics themselves

Except those from DC which include this event in continuity.

- Whirly