Apocalypse X-Men: Apocalypse Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 2

[GuestStar2004]

The Apocalypse ending in itself feels like a great way to start a new set of movies, the costumes, the sentinels being teased as danger room tools, the team dynamic set up

Now if you stick to that feel then you can make something pretty special out of it, but don't do what singer ended up doing... teasing it and not actually giving us a slice of it.

 

[GuestStar2004]

First Class is the cheapest looking film in the X-Men franchise(not counting Origins), it almost looks like a TV show.

That could be down to being a rushed production, its not like vaughns other movies had that issue

 

[Lily Adler]

I like both Singer and Vaughn, but wouldn't mind Singer taking a break from the director's chair again and let Vaughn or someone else take the seat. I'm just more concerned about Kinberg solely writing scripts without Goldman or Vaughn there to restrain him.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

You aren't being serious if you believe that the first X-Men film doesn't look like a t.v movie and looks better than First Class.

 

[The Chris]

I think there's a certain energy and visual vibe that just oozes off of Vaughn's work, whether its Kick-Ass, First Class, Kingsman and even Layer Cake. For me personally First Class was able to have a little more of a comic book vibe while also having the real world drama feel that Singer brings in.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I think there's a certain energy and visual vibe that just oozes off of Vaughn's work, whether its Kick-Ass, First Class, Kingsman and even Layer Cake. For me personally First Class was able to have a little more of a comic book vibe while also having the real world drama feel that Singer brings in.

And that's why First Class is my favorite X-Men film. I think Singer struggles with the more outlandish comic booky stuff.

 

[Johnny-Oh]

You aren't being serious if you believe that the first X-Men film doesn't look like a t.v movie and looks better than First Class.

It was a movie made in the 2000s with half the budget of First Class, the comparision only serves to prove my point.

 

[BeholdMe]

I know not everyone agrees and that a lot of fans love Singer as director and his X-Men films but the style issue that Sithborg brings up is my overall complaint. I am bored with Singer's non distinctive journeyman style and way of doing things. I was never a fan of it and I feel like a lot of things about the X-Men films are painfully outdated. I'm not asking for a reboot but I would love a different creative team behind the scenes.

This what I want as well Singers vision is fading and we need some new insight and a new team behind the franchise. XMen needs to catch up with some of the other CBM right now it's falling back and it could be so much better.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I like both Singer and Vaughn, but wouldn't mind Singer taking a break from the director's chair again and let Vaughn or someone else take the seat. I'm just more concerned about Kinberg solely writing scripts without Goldman or Vaughn there to restrain him.

Kinberg Is likely going to write the next X-men film even if they rebooted.He just seems too intergraded with fox now.During deadpool and Apocalypse releases it has been kinberg being the producer doing all the press.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I think even with it's rushed schedule First Class looks great. It's a much more interesting looking film than Singer's X-Men films. You want to see cheap go watch Apocalypse because those special effects are hardly special. I'm wondering where all of the money went.

 

[Abudefduf]

Oh God no, not Vaughn. That guy shouldn't be allowed nowhere near the likes of Storm, Jean & company.

 

[Sithborg]

I love Singer's X-men movies. But even I agree he should take a break. I don't think it is good for a franchise to be tied to one director like that for so long. New blood should always be welcomed. I look forward to Boone, Miller, and Mangold's future contributions.

Hell, last time Singer took a break, he came back with DOFP.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I think there's a certain energy and visual vibe that just oozes off of Vaughn's work, whether its Kick-Ass, First Class, Kingsman and even Layer Cake. For me personally First Class was able to have a little more of a comic book vibe while also having the real world drama feel that Singer brings in.

there wouldn't be any of the real world drama most likely if vaughn returns.
The real world drama feel of FC was because singer was producer.

As fan of singer i hope if he doesn't direct next X-men he just leaves it to
Kinberg.he gets no credit for first class they say it's all vaughn if they like it.and if people want to attack film they blame him.

Vaughn's style is much more lighter with hyper-violent feel.granted the hyper-violence was restraned with first class since it was Pg-13 film.

 

[Smilodon]

Probably the QS sequence that took three weeks, practical effects and expensive cameras. Cut it down next time.

Vaughn has shown with Magneto that he can do serious and "dark" and "gritty" just as well as Singer could. Of course, Magneto is probably Vaughn's character so whether he can or will do that to others remains to be seen but at least we won't have lethargic action scenes.

That being said I don't think Vaughn (because he hates sequels) will come back, but he will have plenty more to work with if he does come back I feel.

 

[ApophènX]

Whoa funny i feel all the contrary, Vaughn felt kitch and non appeling to me where Singer as a kind of vortex vibe to it, your sucked in. I re watched usual suspect and it's already there, something old, kinda of remind me of matrix sometime.

 

[Sithborg]

The Cuba fight may not have had the luxury of expensive SFX, but the flow was great and the first true team fight for the X-men. I feel Vaughn would be able to avoid the "beam spam" that Apocalypse devolved to and which the X-men, I feel, are in particular danger of falling into for their action scenes.

 

[Johnny-Oh]

I think even with it's rushed schedule First Class looks great. It's a much more interesting looking film than Singer's X-Men films. You want to see cheap go watch Apocalypse because those special effects are hardly special. I'm wondering where all of the money went.

Not sure why you're getting so defensive. Apocalypse has better cinematography than First Class easily, the lighting is perfect and I love the use of colors.

First Class looked cheap, that was the reason I didn't even watch it in theaters, everything looked like a TV show. When I finally watched the film I loved it but it still looked cheap. The visual effects and green screen are pretty awful as well, those flying scenes OMG

If there is something in First Class that is significantly superior to Singer's X-Men movies is the score, Henry Jackman did an amazing job.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I don't think Vaughn is coming back either and I'm okay with that but I would like to see another good and more dynamic director given a shot.

I have nothing to get defensive about Johnny Oh. Most see First Class as superior to Apocalypse.

 

[Johnny-Oh]

I don't think Vaughn is coming back either and I'm okay with that but I would like to see another good and more dynamic director given a shot.

I have nothing to get defensive about Johnny Oh. Most see First Class as superior to Apocalypse.

Well I would agree with that, but it doesn't change the fact that you're being extremely defensive.

 

[Smilodon]

Eh, Singer has saturated a lot of the past two films I feel like. I think the digital cameras he uses are for that intent (though the vibrant colors heighten the comic book feel of it and I do like it). FC looks equally great and actually tries to emulate the period it's in. (though I know nothing of cameras besides what I read)

And lol at marvelrobbins thinking Vaughn couldn't be serious without Singer on board. Singer even mentioned that he's not the kinda producer to screw around with a director. Why would Vaughn of all directors agree to a project where he is going to be monitored closely like that. Vaughn clearly wanted to work within the general framework established by X1/X2 while putting his own signature on things.

Vaughn is dynamic. I think we need a bit more energy and visceralness to these films. Not necessarily from him, but from someone with more modern sensibilities.

 

[TheVileOne]

Alice only got $9.8 Ouch! Disney's 1st flop for 2016

http://www.thewrap.com/x-men-apocalypse-leads-friday-box-office-with-26-4-million/

Another situation where sometimes you should've quit while you're ahead.

 

[GuestStar2004]

the first made a billion so you can see why disney thought it was a good idea to do a sequel

 

[TheNewSlayer]

I can honestly say that for me and a few friends X-Men First Class is considered the worse x-men movie so far. X-Men Last Stand and X-Men Origins are way better than First Class.

First Class is a boring movie to watch. Is just Xavier, Magneto and Jennifer Lawrence talking all the time. The only real action scene is the last one. X-Men Last Stand there so much going on, so many good visual effects. I'll never forget how I felt watching the Jean Grey house in Theater back the day. It was a great feeling. Last Stand has its flaws but is more interesting to watch for the 10th time than First Class. Origins also had so many memorable moments like the Gambit vs Wolverine scene, all Sabretoth vs Wolverine scenes, the Final act Sabre, Wolvie vs Deadpool (sure is not accurate to the comics but for that movie it made sense the way it was made)

Maybe is because I'm not from this generation but I love the original cast. And I think even though the new cast is good, the old one is better for their roles.

 

[Johnny-Oh]

Eh, Singer has saturated a lot of the past two films I feel like. I think the digital cameras he uses are for that intent (though the vibrant colors heighten the comic book feel of it and I do like it). FC looks equally great and actually tries to emulate the period it's in. (though I know nothing of cameras besides what I read)

And lol at marvelrobbins thinking Vaughn couldn't be serious without Singer on board. Singer even mentioned that he's not the kinda producer to screw around with a director. Why would Vaughn of all directors agree to a project where he is going to be monitored closely like that. Vaughn clearly wanted to work within the general framework established by X1/X2 while putting his own signature on things.

Vaughn is dynamic. I think we need a bit more energy and visceralness to these films.

Speaking of that, First Class is the origin of most of the continuity errors of the franchise yet Singer gets all the blame for it. This kind of double standards is what bothers me, his movie suffers with the problems a lot of people judge Singer's movies for but his fanboys always avoid to talk about them.

In general I do think the franchise needs a new vision and new talent but I don't need to trash talk the other directors just to make an argument for that, from the moment it was announced I always expected Apocalypse to be Singer's final film.

 

[Smilodon]

I'm not trashing either by the way. Critical sure, trashing no. And what I meant by that was starting the film in Auschwitz like X1. Yeah FC caused continuity issues, but I'm not giving Singer or Vaugn flack for that. (And won't unless they're just absolutely abhorrent continuity mistakes)