Apocalypse X-Men: Apocalypse Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 6

[def28]

Yes to this, it is my primary reason for my distaste in the franchise at this point though I am happy to see an actual team formed at the end of Apocalypse. I would prefer if Kinberg was replaced though im certain that wont be happening. I just feel he along with others are destroying the Legacy of XMen. I only ask to have someone onboard who really has a feel for the characters that are utilized and to quit killing characters off after one movie not being able to use them again.

 

[jaymes_e06]

Yes to this, it is my primary reason for my distaste in the franchise at this point though I am happy to see an actual team formed at the end of Apocalypse. I would prefer if Kinberg was replaced though im certain that wont be happening. I just feel he along with others are destroying the Legacy of XMen. I only ask to have someone onboard who really has a feel for the characters that are utilized and to quit killing characters off after one movie not being able to use them again.

Agreed with that for sure.

 

[henzINNIT]

Film made a profit. It was a success. End of story.

Just because you say something and want it to be true haters doesn't make it true.

You should have considered your second sentence before you typed the first.

The film just about made it into the green, but it was a significant drop from the last film, well below its competition at Marvel and DC and got slaughtered by critics. Even fans online are rare. Most updates on this film and the universe in general are being received with shrugs or memes about Marvel regaining the rights. Compare the activity here now to just 2 years ago when DOFP was out.

Yes to this, it is my primary reason for my distaste in the franchise at this point though I am happy to see an actual team formed at the end of Apocalypse. I would prefer if Kinberg was replaced though im certain that wont be happening. I just feel he along with others are destroying the Legacy of XMen. I only ask to have someone onboard who really has a feel for the characters that are utilized and to quit killing characters off after one movie not being able to use them again.

Another large time jump would be a big mistake. The 90's could be fun but can also wait.

 

[magneto23]

The film just about made it into the green, but it was a significant drop from the last film, well below its competition at Marvel and DC and got slaughtered by critics. Even fans online are rare.

Did it really get "slaughtered" though. It was almost split down the middle with critics. How would you describe what happened to the DC movies then?

 

[MadVillainy]

Did it really get "slaughtered" though. It was almost split down the middle with critics. How would you describe what happened to the DC movies then?

Curb stomped and thrown into the sun

 

[BeholdMe]

You should have considered your second sentence before you typed the first.

The film just about made it into the green, but it was a significant drop from the last film, well below its competition at Marvel and DC and got slaughtered by critics. Even fans online are rare. Most updates on this film and the universe in general are being received with shrugs or memes about Marvel regaining the rights. Compare the activity here now to just 2 years ago when DOFP was out.



Another large time jump would be a big mistake. The 90's could be fun but can also wait.

Did you mean to quote me, because I don't see how your comment applies to mine? I'm sorry if it's something I'm not seeing.

 

[henzINNIT]

Did it really get "slaughtered" though. It was almost split down the middle with critics. How would you describe what happened to the DC movies then?

I'll be honest, I just checked and it ended up higher than I remembered, but 48% is still bad sadly. A film on RT just needs to earn a slightly positive review for that final percentage, and just over half the critics wouldn't even grant it that. Mediocre films like Thor 2 still get positive scores overall.

DC though... That's a whole other level. They need to get their s**t together.

Did you mean to quote me, because I don't see how your comment applies to mine? I'm sorry if it's something I'm not seeing.

I...um... No, you're right to ask. Reading it back, I don't even know what I thought you said lol.

Agreed on fresh blood though. I like Singer fine, he brings interesting thematic ideas to the table, but the think-tank over at Fox desperately needs some talent that actually know and care about these characters.

 

[psylockolussus]

Film made a profit. It was a success. End of story.

Yeah sure, if Fox only expected Apocalypse to gross lower than X1 in North America and earned less than $600 million worldwide.

Just because you say something and want it to be true haters doesn't make it true.

Just because someone isn't saying Apocalypse isn't a box-office success like you do, it doesn't instantly make them a "true hater".

 

[jaymes_e06]

Film made a profit. It was a success. End of story.

Just because you say something and want it to be true haters doesn't make it true.

Exactly. Their so bothered by it making more than DOFP which actually is the highest grossing film in the series.

It's like they can't negotiate the dichotomy.

 

[psylockolussus]

I'll be honest, I just checked and it ended up higher than I remembered, but 48% is still bad sadly. A film on RT just needs to earn a slightly positive review for that final percentage, and just over half the critics wouldn't even grant it that. Mediocre films like Thor 2 still get positive scores overall.

Yeah a rotten score is always not good. Especially when the last 4 X-Men movies before Apocalypse got a fresh rating!

 

[Wildcard]

Film made a profit. It was a success. End of story.

Just because you say something and want it to be true haters doesn't make it true.

This film made such a small margin of a profit that the only reason Fox won't fret is because Deadpool can cover its ass.

This isn't about being a "hater" or disliking the movie. It underperformed to the tune of some 20% from where DOFP left off. Once again, even taking into account the budget was lowered, for a film that spent north of $200/$250 million when marketing is taken into account, that's a horrible statistic. It grossed less in North America than the first X-Men movie almost 20 years ago. These aren't opinions, these are facts.

Is it an outright flop in the way of Ghostbusters, Independence Day: Resurgence and Ben-Hur? No, but it's not a runaway success either. Hell, it's barely a success at all.

 

[psylockolussus]

Not to mention, it was also released in IMAX/3D which could have easily inflated its box-office numbers.

 

[MadVillainy]

Not to mention, it was also released in IMAX/3D which could have easily inflated its box-office numbers.

Exactly.

 

[SAUspartan]

This film made such a small margin of a profit that the only reason Fox won't fret is because Deadpool can cover its ass.

This isn't about being a "hater" or disliking the movie. It underperformed to the tune of some 20% from where DOFP left off. Once again, even taking into account the budget was lowered, for a film that spent north of $200/$250 million when marketing is taken into account, that's a horrible statistic. It grossed less in North America than the first X-Men movie almost 20 years ago. These aren't opinions, these are facts.

Is it an outright flop in the way of Ghostbusters, Independence Day: Resurgence and Ben-Hur? No, but it's not a runaway success either. Hell, it's barely a success at all.

You are out of you're mind. These are not facts.

 

[jaymes_e06]

This film made such a small margin of a profit that the only reason Fox won't fret is because Deadpool can cover its ass.

This isn't about being a "hater" or disliking the movie. It underperformed to the tune of some 20% from where DOFP left off. Once again, even taking into account the budget was lowered, for a film that spent north of $200/$250 million when marketing is taken into account, that's a horrible statistic. It grossed less in North America than the first X-Men movie almost 20 years ago. These aren't opinions, these are facts.

Is it an outright flop in the way of Ghostbusters, Independence Day: Resurgence and Ben-Hur? No, but it's not a runaway success either. Hell, it's barely a success at all.

Some of these stats are made up conjecture and hyperbole and some are true if you sift your way through there.

 

[marvelrobbins]

i shouldn't bother but saying apocalypse was a bomb is stretch.if it is then so is star Trek Beyond which did far less than first 2 trek abrams films.

Then anyone who thought apocalypse was going to do DOFP business or more were in serious denial.Apocalypse was always going to do less.

I suspect when time comes for next X-Men film fox may do the following

reduced budget

outfits throughout film.now they may not be the exact same ones we saw at end of apocalypse but one of things that i feel came to an end in apocalypse was black leather outfits in franchise

more humor.now we probally won't see as much comedy as in deadpool and many MCU films that isn't captain america trilogy but i feel they will add more humor.

who knows if fox would bring back Jennifer Lawrence and michael fassbender now that Hugh Jackman is gone.and likely the option of original cast goes with him.

both first class and the wolverine got sequels and they did less ww than apocalypse.unfortully fox doesn't have the opotion anymore in a apocalypse
followup to bring back the original cast as they did with DOFP.hell fox is even doing sequel to promeuthas and that could have been called a disappointment too.

 

[Iceman]

Being a box office disappointment doesn't mean you won't get sequels as long as you have shown some box office muscle in the past. If the next Batman/Superman/Spider-man films are box office disappointments, we would still get future films as everyone knows films by those characters CAN make money. And the early X-films showed there is some box office potential and while this hasn't been fully capitalised on, at least the films aren't losing money so the studio will have hope that the bigger bucks will come in when they get the formula right.

 

[def28]

There will always be X-Men movies, direct sequels are another story. Rather this particular story will continue is up in the air.

If this movie barely made a profit here (which allegedly it still hasn't and won't till video) then what would Fox think about the next one? That the disappointing reception is somehow gonna increase the next film? They are either gonna drop the budget, get a new take on X-Men or find a fail-safe like Deapdool.

This film has no doubt raised some questions on how to continue. If we are discussing it then so is the studio. Fox want's this to be a powerhouse seller, not the film that didn't do as bad as TMNT but couldn't come close to Cicil War, Deadpool and Suicide Squad.

If Batman dropped hundreds of millions in todays time you would see a reboot not a sequel next. We saw this happen with Spidey at Sony not long ago. 709m was a huge enough let down that they went to Marvel.

 

[DavidHaller]

you boxoffice specialist in here: Aren't Deadpool's and Suicide Squad's financial success an indicator that "witty" or "stylish" marketing is in the end the only thing that really counts?

 

[def28]

I don't know about the end, but there's no doubt good marketing helps significantly. If Suicide didn't suck it would be making far more.

It also helps that Deadpool and Harley Quinn were some of the most popular trending characters in pop culture, comics and geek merchandise even before they had feature films. Fans and the internet have been champion those two for quite sometime with DC making a ton of cash on them prior as well.

 

[Iceman]

There will always be X-Men movies, direct sequels are another story. Rather this particular story will continue is up in the air.

If this movie barely made a profit here (which allegedly it still hasn't and won't till video) then what would Fox think about the next one? That the disappointing reception is somehow gonna increase the next film? They are either gonna drop the budget, get a new take on X-Men or find a fail-safe like Deapdool.

This film has no doubt raised some questions on how to continue. If we are discussing it then so is the studio. Fox want's this to be a powerhouse seller, not the film that didn't do as bad as TMNT but couldn't come close to Cicil War, Deadpool and Suicide Squad.

If Batman dropped hundreds of millions in todays time you would see a reboot not a sequel next. We saw this happen with Spidey at Sony not long ago. 709m was a huge enough let down that they went to Marvel.

True. I really hope we don't see budget cuts but it might be inevitable.

 

[def28]

Pretty much. Fox is in a tough position, but if they play their cards right and release a fresh and well made X-Men film alongside their expanding universe of Deadpool, X-Force and New Mutants. Things will start looking stronger

We just may have to wait awhile for the next 200m+ film.

 

[X-Maniac]

you boxoffice specialist in here: Aren't Deadpool's and Suicide Squad's financial success an indicator that "witty" or "stylish" marketing is in the end the only thing that really counts?

Yes, marketing matters. And a cool concept and something with a bit of zip and panache. You gotta stand out from the crowd. Look at the amount of babble and drivel that flies past continuously on Facebook, Twitter and forums - if you don't stand out, you disappear and drown.

The action scenes in Deadpool were brilliant - to turn standard car chase sequences into something so innovative (freeze-frame moments for quips etc) was fantastic.

There were no amazing action moments or spectacle in X-Men: Apocalypse. Seeing Apoc build a pyramid was not very dynamic, seeing Magneto hovering in a bubble pulling rocks and metal pieces was not very dynamic. It was all quite static. Coolest moments (for me anyway) were from Psylocke - sliding down the building and slicing the car. They had 'edge' to them.

XM:A needed cranking up a few notches. The opening sequence was great as well though, but as it was pretty standalone (all those horsemen died, we never saw Ancient Egypt again).

 

[GuestStar2004]

Fox had the option to give apocalypse a 200+ mil budget but they didn't and while I question whether a 200+ Budget would have added anything or whether the budget actually effected anything for Bryan singer at all anyway as he isn't really a sceptical director so the budget would probably just go on fixing up the effects already there.

 

[GuestStar2004]

This film has no doubt raised some questions on how to continue. If we are discussing it then so is the studio. Fox want's this to be a powerhouse seller, not the film that didn't do as bad as TMNT but couldn't come close to Cicil War, Deadpool and Suicide Squad.

Well no it doesn't always work that way, since DOFP fans been discussing things that fox must be thinking or doing and have been completely wrong, one was that they were using DOFP to see which cast the audience wanted for apocalypse when really they already knew what cast they were using, people were just insisting that after FC they were testing the waters with DOFP when chances are no thats likely not what was going on there.

same with everything about deadpool, thats gonna go on for a while where people speculate how fox will milk the deadpool machine like saying how they will put wolverine and deadpool together in wolverine 3 because people will wanna see that and fox want money! well still waiting on that announcement but giving how fox have been with this franchise since 2009 i don't think there is any point comparing them to marvel, WB or even sony because i have seen no sign of the copycat attitude of WB, the desperation of SONY or whatever marvel does.