Apocalypse X-Men Apocalypse News and Discussion - Part 1

[Mr.M]

Awful idea. And its been brought up here too much. The idea makes no sense. Why not just have the movie take place in the future then?


After we just got a new timeline in DOFP?

It's an anticlimactic timeline then. Aren't we done with the prequels? I thought that was the point of DoFP... to break continuity from the OT. The happy ending leaves me no desire to see films perpetually set in the past, beyond the avid X-Men fan in me.

Besides, we already went back and forth with this prior to DoFP regarding timelines and how things would be done according to Singer and the producers. Turns out it was somewhere in the middle of where we individually thought we'd ultimately end up. I'm not going to go back and forth again until we are presented with some tangible evidence beyond wild speculation, which is all I was doing.

Again, it's just one approach. I like being practical and trying to repair some of the irreparable damage they've already done back to Origins and FC. That includes not fiddling with birth dates, which Kinberg has already contested, so really anything is possible. But it's the approach I would go with, assuming Archangel is a featured character and they are using AoA as a major source of inspiration.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Dismissing the future wolverine woke up at end of DOFP Is bad idea.

1:It again puts films on contunity errors
2:It undercuts DOFP
3:It takes away any connection to Trilogy.

Besides all X_Men films are likely to be In past anyway Inless they do film with Original cast again.

 

[xrs13]

It really doesnt make the films any less interesting with us seeing the original movie team at the end of DOFP. There are two characters that could still die who have been in every film and that is magneto and mystique seeing as we didnt see them at the end of DOFP, we could see nightcrawler die, we could see lots of well liked characters change drastically, especially Rogue who in future films could fly for all we know.

Just like the Avengers, I didnt mind seeing that knowing that Thor and Iron Man were definitely not going to die due to upcoming films.

There are so many stories that can be told that would interest me to go and see even if I know that a small bunch of X-Men are going to live.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

^

It's fairly obvious IMO though that the future of the franchise isn't OT cast. They'll be re-introducing the main characters as younger versions and they'll be the main cast from now on,
Those how I see it anyway

Am I the only one who doesn't worry about this? Fox would lose nothing if Marvel eventually stopped releasing comic-books and merchandises. More likely, the people who regularly buy comic-books and look for X-Men stuff would just cling into the upcoming X-Men movies since thats the only new thing they would ever get from X-Men. Merchandises, cartoons, videogames are nice things to have and it could help promote the films but its not the be all of all things.

A box-office analyst at Boxoffice.com said that How to Train Your Dragon's weekly cartoon series might have been a factor why the 2nd film didn't meet expectations because why would kids rush to cinema to watch the film when they could just watch Dragons at home. For a better comparison, lets use Spider-Man, it had a videogame tie-in for the film, a lot of merchandises and doesn't he have an ongoing cartoon series right now? Spider-man is also appearing in Disney Infinity and yet DOFP which is probably the one X-Men movie that has the least amount of merchandises, became the highest grossing comic book film of the year.

And if Marvel stops releasing comic-books, trade paperbacks, hardcovers for the X-Men, it would be their loss most especially they are releasing a dozen of ongoing comic-books every month of this year and if they are able to release a dozen of comic-books every month, it must mean that they are getting a good profit from the X-Men comic-books. Also I don't know anyone in real life who buys X-Men comic-books but I know a lot of people who watch the X-Men films. So the lack of comic-books/merchandizes won't affect the X-Men films. I think Fox just needs to be more aggresive with the marketing, make a deal with IMAX, keep the momentum they got from DOFP, keep the quality of the films and everything would be fine.

Well it's not really about just the X-Men movies but the X-Men franchise as a whole. We dont have much outside of comics and movies. I personally would love more much from comic or movie and a new cartoon and a new video game

 

[psylockolussus]

Depends. The 90s animated series made a huge impact on the X-Men's popularity. As did them being pretty much the most popular/highest selling characters in comics. Both played big roles into the first films success and interest. But ultimately these films sell themselves. GOTG should be more then enough proof of that.

Yes the 90s cartoons and even X-Men: Evolution made an impact on the X-Men's popularity before... but do the X-Men still need cartoons to be successful and popular? Judging from DOFP's performance, no. So the lack of cartoons and merchandizes aren't hurting the X-Men movies. Live-action films are more in demand now when it comes to Marvel superheroes.

Well it's not really about just the X-Men movies but the X-Men franchise as a whole. We dont have much outside of comics and movies. I personally would love more much from comic or movie and a new cartoon and a new video game

That comment was solely directed to Fox's having X-Men. Lack of cartoons/merchandizes and the rumoured reboot of Marvel Comics without the X-Men (which won't happen) won't hurt the movies.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Agreed that the lack of them isn't hurting the movie. But IMO it is hurting the fans who want X-Men to have them. If it was a different property like Ant-Man then it'd be different as that never had much of those things but X-Men had all of those now has very little. It's the whole give something then Take it away principle

 

[psylockolussus]

It's fairly obvious IMO though that the future of the franchise isn't OT cast. They'll be re-introducing the main characters as younger versions and they'll be the main cast from now on,
Those how I see it anyway.

I'm just gonna be like to Fox and the producers if that happens. Releasing sequels for a prequel before the inevitable reboot. Its just me, but I feel like the future of the series should be with the one who started it and it should end with them, not the *younger versions*.

And its just gonna be a mess if the actors who are portraying the younger versions are still playing their X-Men characters when they are already in their 30s and 40s. When we already saw at the end of DOFP that Halle Berry still ended up as Storm in the future, Famke as Jean, James as Cyclops, etc...

 

[def28]

Yes the 90s cartoons and even X-Men: Evolution made an impact on the X-Men's popularity before... but do the X-Men still need cartoons to be successful and popular? Judging from DOFP's performance, no. So the lack of cartoons and merchandizes aren't hurting the X-Men movies. Live-action films are more in demand now when it comes to Marvel superheroes.

I agree for the most part. Wouldn't hurt either though. Introducing them to kids through the Disney channel only increases that awareness and interest in younger viewers. Much like most here who grew up with TAS before hand. Gambit's mainstream popularity for example comes pretty much exclusively through that show.

Not every parent will take their kids to a live action X-Men film, so it's good to have them in other froms of media that's more acceptable to every age and something they can watch everyday.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Apocalypse could send Angel from the future if they don't want to mess with the birth dates. Then, since we are in yet another new timeline, Xavier could be killed off. Then Magneto leads the X-Men from then on. I definitely see them using AoA as a major influence, if not more so than Days of Future Past comic, even though this isn't explicitly Age of Apocalypse. I think it is unlikely this will be a "disaster" film. It might be bigger in scope, but X-Men have always been character studies, so I don't see them going with a full bloated CGI fest, and definitely see them using some of the comic arcs that were so successful developing these characters.

Kinberg said a while ago that apocalypse won't have any time travel and that he was happy about that because he found it tough to work out with DOFP

 

[GuestStar2004]

Seeing as most the X-men have already been killed off in X3 and DOFP but brought back with time travel I find it hard to believe they will be killed off again anyway

 

[GuestStar2004]

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[magneto23]

It's an anticlimactic timeline then. Aren't we done with the prequels? I thought that was the point of DoFP... to break continuity from the OT. The happy ending leaves me no desire to see films perpetually set in the past, beyond the avid X-Men fan in me.

Even though we know the core X-Men make it to 2023, that doesn't mean we can't get good stories that are suspenseful with high stakes. They have a lot of untapped story time (1983-2023) they can play with here. IMO its better to stick with what DOFP set up instead of creating another new reality one film later.

 

[hoy-small-fry]

People don't have to die to make a good film. It's a classic film-making flaw

 

[xrs13]

I think cartoons are the way forward to get kids to like franchises so I do hope Marvel do some form of X-Men cartoon soon

 

[marvelrobbins]

I think cartoons are the way forward to get kids to like franchises so I do hope Marvel do some form of X-Men cartoon soon

Don't bet on that

 

[marvelrobbins]

I'm just gonna be like to Fox and the producers if that happens. Releasing sequels for a prequel before the inevitable reboot. Its just me, but I feel like the future of the series should be with the one who started it and it should end with them, not the *younger versions*.

And its just gonna be a mess if the actors who are portraying the younger versions are still playing their X-Men characters when they are already in their 30s and 40s. When we already saw at the end of DOFP that Halle Berry still ended up as Storm in the future, Famke as Jean, James as Cyclops, etc...

DOFP Is somewhat of a reboot due to time travel.

The trilogy both Is and isn't connected to films going forward.The trilogy leads up to time travel of DOFP.First Class despite some errors Is still prequel to Trilogy.But,now they can dismiss going forward anything they want that happened In trilogy but at same time characters become versions played by OT cast we saw at end of DOFP except for Magneto and Mystique.

 

[Serpico Jones]

There's a video of Bryan Singer walking out of a restaurant with Patrick Stewart and they both get mobbed by paparazzi, Singer confirms to the paparazzi that Apocalypse is the next film he will be directing.

 

[Erik Lensherr]

There's a video of Bryan Singer walking out of a restaurant with Patrick Stewart and they both get mobbed by paparazzi, Singer confirms to the paparazzi that Apocalypse is the next film he will be directing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDQLs_7Hk50

 

[marvelrobbins]

I doudt too many think the lawsuit which has completly fallen apart will prevent him from doing apocalypse.

On twitter he sent out word he is getting his X-Men tattoo tonight.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

With Singer back Apocalypse should be as awesome as DOFP

 

[Duran Man]

No. Awesomer.

 

[Smilodon]

http://instagram.com/p/r7zSajRD-y/

Look who kept his promise!

 

[marvelrobbins]

This may be first time since X2 a lot of people BTS return from previous film.X2 really felt like the contunion of X-men only on bigger scale.DOFP defently felt like a Bryan singer X-Men film with return of patrick Stewart narration,the X2 theme,the closing of door,and visual allusions to X-Men and X2 like Magneto In plastic prison,Mystique going through office,and Magneto controlling guns on cwoads.Only this time him and his team had the time and money to make it.

Singer directing again almost gurantees Newton Thomas sigel will be DoP again like on all of his films and John Ottman will be editor/Composor again.Having Michael Doughery and Dan harris co-writing with Simon Kinberg Is also a good sign.And if Nightcrawler does indeed make the cut or apocalypse It doesn't hurt to have final writers of X2 working on script.That can only help make the "New" Nightcrawler as good as previous one.

Let's hope Kinberg's some original cast actors being In APocalypse comments means Patrick Stewart will appear somehow In APocalypse.It won't quite feel like a Bryan Singer X-Men film with Stewart as Xavier and doing a Voiceover narration

 

[Dr. Remy Lebeau]

http://instagram.com/p/r7zSajRD-y/

Look who kept his promise!

I love how it looks like he's in prison, with the tattoo artist in classic prison stripes. The whole thing looks seedy. Even Patrick Stewart looks a bit pervey in it. Good for Singer for following through on his promise. Bring on the Apocalypse!

 

[GuestStar2004]

Well Ignoring the revealing script image that was released that shows the prologue or opening of the film for the moment I personally don't see how Patrick could give a narration for apocalypse because if he is in the movie it's bound to be a very small role (probably even smaller then DOFP) and unless he is doing the narration like he is telling the story it would seem very out of place

if they have a narration for apocalypse it could very well be mcavoy since DOFP ended with his narration leading to the next film