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so which movies between 2006 and 2016 are "younger" or "fresher" than X-Men: Apocalypse? Sorry, but most Marvel movies are really not great movies...they are redundant and very one note. Days of Future Past is still the best comic movie after The Dark Knight and not Marvel movie comes close.
Absolutely. It feels like comic book films that have claimed to be "inspired" by The Dark Knight don't understand what makes that film great. Dark Knight isn't good simply because it's dark, and gritty. It's great because of the story, character development, strong themes, understandable motivations, relevant social commentary, and complex arcs for its characters. In that regard DOFP is the only comic book film to truly follow in The Dark Knight's footsteps.
And I stand by my assessment.. this was far more popcorn than X3... x3 at least had you invested in the already established characters..
Invested in who exactly?
Idk how someone can look at the opening credits in this film, and say there is no artistry involved.Lol @ people acting like apocalypse had some of singers artistry to it.. this film was jack and the beanstalk levels of bad for sunger...
one of biggest problems apart from kinberg's writing and giving him freer regin was singer sacrificed some of his usual style to do popcorn film aka his version of MCU film.I thought showdown in third act In egypt is better than say age of ultron or BVS.
Jennifer Lawrence star power defently affects films.that is likely a factor why they put her in uniform at end of the film to open door for lawrence to come back and cut down makeup time to just face and wig.
X-Men: Apocalypse in my eyes mainly failed because Singer tried too hard to bring all earlier movies together, which came out to feel very redundant. Audiences actually have to remember all previous movies to be able to appreciate the movie.
Singer uses X-Men: Apocalypse to
1) re-introduce Scott, Jean and Nightcrawler (X1-X3)
2) re-tells Wolverine's Weapon X story for the Logan movie (X2 and X-Men Origins)
3) brings Jean's story full circle as a narrative that actually went through X1,X2,X3 and The Wolverine. (I already spend too much time here trying to show the beauty of Singer's Jean Grey storyline in "X:A" in the wider context of the franchise...)
4) tells Magneto's storyline how he became a horsemen (main story of this movie!)
5) introduces Apocalypse as a new villain
6) shows us the further storylines of Charles, Raven and Hank
...etc.
I also disagree that there is nothing of Singer's atistry in the movie! Apocalypse taking over cerebro is an outstandingly crafted scene where score and editing produces a phenomenal emotional experience. What Ottman and Singer did here is MORE than mainstream cinema (same goes to Quicksilver's scene although horribly placed and very tonal dissonant).
The main problem with "X-Men Apocalypse" is lackluster, boring action in my eyes and a somehow very random third act without any plot. This could maybe excused if the action wouldn't be that dull and badly edited...
The first 1 hour and 20 minutes are a good movie but everything that follows is a random, inexcusable mess.
Invested in who exactly?
Idk how someone can look at the opening credits in this film, and say there is no artistry involved.
You know what i do give singer credit for what he attempted to do with X-Men: Apocalypse, he obviously made the decision to make something abit more humorous and fun as there is noticeably alot more of it in this movie and i dunno whether that was an MCU influence, a deadpool influence, an attempt to replicate the tone of XFC or just singer knowing he had to step things up in some way for the 3rd movie but i do think it was the right decision on singers part to do it as this franchise probably needs abit of that at this point.
Now whether or not he did it well or not is each to their own but i'd be disappointed if suddenly the next film took a backstep to lose some of that.
Its easy to say it was a jen lawrence influence but thats not necessarily the case, her being in that outfit was no different to everyone else being in the comic influenced outfits
Jean, storm, Xavier, Cyclops. Mystique, magneto, iceman, pyro, rogue. We got to know those characters over x1 and X2. And most the complaints of x3 were from the killing off Scott, the death of xavier, the lack of a true phoenix, and rogue taking the cure.. those all get far more flack than the pacing or overall story... and at least x3 was insightful with the aspect of the cure... where as apocalypse really didn't bring anything insightful to the table at all. The drama singer thrives on was lost...
I also feel like magneto shouldn't of been in this film at all, other than his family getting killed he ultimately served nothing... and truly didn't carry the film in any way. Unlike DOFP where he felt like an emotional beacon.
Nothing in apocalypse felt like something new to the franchise, magneto has now become over-redundant. And it certainly didn't bring anything new to the comic go film genre either...
J-laws role wasn't even that big in apocalypse but chances are either way her role was on the creative team rather fox pushing to give her more importance.
And I am pretty sure magneto will be in the next movie either way because quicksilver is part of the team and they obviously opened a door there for more exploration there.
Again what was to be invested in exactly? Cyclops? Not even worth commenting on that one, rogue? her taking the cure was nothing really when you think the whole point of her arc was to be jealous of kitty and Bobby, storm? Seriously what was to invest? You are basically investing on what come before it rather then what is worth investing in the movie since most of it is tarnished
x3 thought you to invest with tricks like putting Jean and Scott's graves next to each other to be somewhat sweet for that relationship they had even though she killed him early on and tried to screw Logan.