Apocalypse X-Men Apocalypse News and Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 29

[YoungBlood]

That's why I want Singer gone. Plain and simple.

Yeah, and bring Brett Ratner back.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

No I know her flirting isn't the issue but I feel that they don't know where they are going sometime. Like the sudden relationship with Hulk it seemed so forced to just put in a relationship that wasn't necessary.

Eh people felt a connection with those two since the first avengers... (even lots of fan art about it too) the only reason it was shocking was that its something not in source material.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Lets not forget

W1- 3 (4 if you Logan's mom)
W2- 4
D1- 3 (4 if you the old lady)

Ok this is getting silly.. heroes, villains and strong supporting characters is fine.. but lets not start counting women who are barely on screen or background ones lol

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Minor point, but Black Widow in the comics doesn't have a Russian accent (this is called attention to a number of times). It would not make any sense for Russia's master spy to speak English with a Russian accent.

This is true.. especially when she speaks multiple languages... and also accents. Very few incarnatiions verbally have her sound russian

 

[Frankeh]

The pattern to the last few movies has been to undevelop them and then develop them slowly going foward, like it took 3 movies for xavier to lose his hair for example.

Magneto is an exception, then? He became Magneto in one movie.

 

[YoungBlood]

Eh people felt a connection with those two since the first avengers... (even lots of fan art about it too) the only reason it was shocking was that its something not in source material.

You mean fangirls who love writing crappy fanfiction about them and the tumblr crowd?

 

[spideyboy_1111]

You mean fangirls who love writing crappy fanfiction about them and the tumblr crowd?

... no meaning general public and nearly everyone but us fanboys. Point is, it did not come out of nowhere. It was surprising, but that doesnt mean there werent noticible points that lead yp to it orhers picked up on.

Keep in mind... "your opinion" doesnt really speak for everyone.
Im not a fan of it, but even i can admit there were pretty big suggestions in avengers that make sense of it for the sequel.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Magneto is an exception, then? He became Magneto in one movie.

Yeah but twice they reduced him back to nothing so he is always restarting again, its like by the end of this movie scott will be cyclops,visor and everything but doesn't mean everything else will come with the package

 

[BeholdMe]

Personal opinions aside... which have no barrings. The public eats her up

Because she's on a very popular team that's in the limelight and everywhere right now, I can see why. If others were promoted pushed as much as I said they would easily surpass her

 

[psylockolussus]

Yeah, and bring Brett Ratner back.

I guess you liked X3?

 

[BeholdMe]

Minor point, but Black Widow in the comics doesn't have a Russian accent (this is called attention to a number of times). It would not make any sense for Russia's master spy to speak English with a Russian accent.

BW just seems like a one note American with no layers to her whatsoever they just went the easy way and had ScarJo play her and to me she brings nothing to the character and it's boring to watch I've only heard her use on accent and that just sounded horrible so maybe that's why.I'm not saying there's an issue with her speaking English but it just seems they went the easy route with that character when she is so much more than that, she seems like they Americanized her for the movie and I'm not a fan of it.

 

[marvelrobbins]

time for some to accept facts when they moan at X-Men films for comic accurcacy.all studios do some reimaging for the screen.

MCU is based more on ultimate universe than 616.costumes are usually taken from there.they made the 616 cap outfit into joke while making ultimate outfit main one.

despite the fox bashing you saw deadpool in his outfit in deadpool far more than you ever see cap in full outfit in any MCU film.Spider-man In MCU is looking like the amazing spider-man far more based on ultimate Spider-man.

DCEU seem to be based on 3 things.1:The dark knight returns 2:the new 52 and 3:reimaged.BVS is based more on DKR than eather age of ultron or civil war were on comic storylines.DOFP had more in common with comic storyline than civil war does.

X-Men is about only marvel franchise that does take elements from 616 mainstream universe.both MCU and marvel/sony take more from ultimate line.

Funny how some moan about comic accurcacy then want fox to total disappear wolverine from films I maintain it's only matter of time after wolverine solo film they recast wolverine.just like i find it hard to believe disney and marvel won't ever recast after avengers:Infinity war.

For all the bellyacing over hugh jackman or jennifer lawrence with X-Men films marvel is same with robert downey JR and DC with Ben affleck.Now before people go off on the marvel makes films without stark.the avengers VS Pure X-Men is valid compassion.If MCU was before CIvil war just Iron man trilogy,avengers,age of ultron,and GOTG it would be no arguement.They have to consently show scenes in MCU of stark inside armor to remind people he's in suit.people bash fox for making use of it's biggest stars but ok for marvel making use of downey.And let's remember focus In DOFP was more on xavier than wolverine.I maintain DOFP were more about xavier,magneto,and mystique than wolverine.marvel made third cap film into avengers film with large role for stark.and dc made batman star of man of steel sequel.

Rogue isn't going to be In Gambit.Years ago people would have said what they would have liked to have seen in avengers film is masters of evil.that is unlikely to ever happen in avengers film.

In last civil war trailer you have scarlet Witch and black widow.and in last apocalypse trailer you had mystique,jean,storm,psylocke,and Moira.Since we storm and jean get a bit of focus along with mystique sounds to me like apocalypse has better female.Lawrence's star power does influence X-Men films but so does Downey and affleck.

 

[psylockolussus]

WHy are we talking about Black Widow? LOL.

 

[Frankeh]

I guess you liked X3?

He was being sarcastic.

 

[BeholdMe]

WHy are we talking about Black Widow? LOL.

We were talking about women in the different franchises last night and she came up.

 

[Frankeh]

I personally thought Widow was amazing in The Winter Soldier -- I think the Russos have a better handling on her than Whedon.

 

[marvelrobbins]

He was being sarcastic.

that was response to one who said he wanted singer gone.I figured that when he mentioned ratner

 

[BeholdMe]

I personally thought Widow was amazing in The Winter Soldier -- I think the Russos have a better handling on her than Whedon.

I haven't seen that movie I've only seen her under Wheadon so that could be the issue.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I personally thought Widow was amazing in The Winter Soldier -- I think the Russos have a better handling on her than Whedon.

agreed.though i am still puzzled why the Russos have her turn against cap for
stark in civil war.why whedon with AOU ever thought widow/banner was good
idea is beyond me.then again if you watched some of his tv shows you know he had crazy parings.

 

[BeholdMe]

I wouldn't have minded the Hulk/Widow pairing if it was hinted on in a previous but it felt like it came out nowhere and was just so forced.

 

[jaymes_e06]

time for some to accept facts when they moan at X-Men films for comic accurcacy.all studios do some reimaging for the screen.

MCU is based more on ultimate universe than 616.costumes are usually taken from there.they made the 616 cap outfit into joke while making ultimate outfit main one.

despite the fox bashing you saw deadpool in his outfit in deadpool far more than you ever see cap in full outfit in any MCU film.Spider-man In MCU is looking like the amazing spider-man far more based on ultimate Spider-man.

DCEU seem to be based on 3 things.1:The dark knight returns 2:the new 52 and 3:reimaged.BVS is based more on DKR than eather age of ultron or civil war were on comic storylines.DOFP had more in common with comic storyline than civil war does.

X-Men is about only marvel franchise that does take elements from 616 mainstream universe.both MCU and marvel/sony take more from ultimate line.

Funny how some moan about comic accurcacy then want fox to total disappear wolverine from films I maintain it's only matter of time after wolverine solo film they recast wolverine.just like i find it hard to believe disney and marvel won't ever recast after avengers:Infinity war.

For all the bellyacing over hugh jackman or jennifer lawrence with X-Men films marvel is same with robert downey JR and DC with Ben affleck.Now before people go off on the marvel makes films without stark.the avengers VS Pure X-Men is valid compassion.If MCU was before CIvil war just Iron man trilogy,avengers,age of ultron,and GOTG it would be no arguement.They have to consently show scenes in MCU of stark inside armor to remind people he's in suit.people bash fox for making use of it's biggest stars but ok for marvel making use of downey.And let's remember focus In DOFP was more on xavier than wolverine.I maintain DOFP were more about xavier,magneto,and mystique than wolverine.marvel made third cap film into avengers film with large role for stark.and dc made batman star of man of steel sequel.

Rogue isn't going to be In Gambit.Years ago people would have said what they would have liked to have seen in avengers film is masters of evil.that is unlikely to ever happen in avengers film.

In last civil war trailer you have scarlet Witch and black widow.and in last apocalypse trailer you had mystique,jean,storm,psylocke,and Moira.Since we storm and jean get a bit of focus along with mystique sounds to me like apocalypse has better female.Lawrence's star power does influence X-Men films but so does Downey and affleck.

Yeah i agree with most of what you said. The only thing I would rectify is saying that I don't think it was Aflecks star power but the character he was playing star power that overshadowed Superman.

 

[BeholdMe]

time for some to accept facts when they moan at X-Men films for comic accurcacy.all studios do some reimaging for the screen.

MCU is based more on ultimate universe than 616.costumes are usually taken from there.they made the 616 cap outfit into joke while making ultimate outfit main one.

despite the fox bashing you saw deadpool in his outfit in deadpool far more than you ever see cap in full outfit in any MCU film.Spider-man In MCU is looking like the amazing spider-man far more based on ultimate Spider-man.

DCEU seem to be based on 3 things.1:The dark knight returns 2:the new 52 and 3:reimaged.BVS is based more on DKR than eather age of ultron or civil war were on comic storylines.DOFP had more in common with comic storyline than civil war does.

X-Men is about only marvel franchise that does take elements from 616 mainstream universe.both MCU and marvel/sony take more from ultimate line.

Funny how some moan about comic accurcacy then want fox to total disappear wolverine from films I maintain it's only matter of time after wolverine solo film they recast wolverine.just like i find it hard to believe disney and marvel won't ever recast after avengers:Infinity war.

For all the bellyacing over hugh jackman or jennifer lawrence with X-Men films marvel is same with robert downey JR and DC with Ben affleck.Now before people go off on the marvel makes films without stark.the avengers VS Pure X-Men is valid compassion.If MCU was before CIvil war just Iron man trilogy,avengers,age of ultron,and GOTG it would be no arguement.They have to consently show scenes in MCU of stark inside armor to remind people he's in suit.people bash fox for making use of it's biggest stars but ok for marvel making use of downey.And let's remember focus In DOFP was more on xavier than wolverine.I maintain DOFP were more about xavier,magneto,and mystique than wolverine.marvel made third cap film into avengers film with large role for stark.and dc made batman star of man of steel sequel.

Rogue isn't going to be In Gambit.Years ago people would have said what they would have liked to have seen in avengers film is masters of evil.that is unlikely to ever happen in avengers film.

In last civil war trailer you have scarlet Witch and black widow.and in last apocalypse trailer you had mystique,jean,storm,psylocke,and Moira.Since we storm and jean get a bit of focus along with mystique sounds to me like apocalypse has better female.Lawrence's star power does influence X-Men films but so does Downey and affleck.

Truth.com I agree with a lot of this.

 

[jaymes_e06]

I wouldn't have minded the Hulk/Widow pairing if it was hinted on in a previous but it felt like it came out nowhere and was just so forced.

Seeing BW pining for Bruce was just painful to watch to a character they had built up so well in WS.

 

[jaymes_e06]

BW just seems like a one note American with no layers to her whatsoever they just went the easy way and had ScarJo play her and to me she brings nothing to the character and it's boring to watch I've only heard her use on accent and that just sounded horrible so maybe that's why.I'm not saying there's an issue with her speaking English but it just seems they went the easy route with that character when she is so much more than that, she seems like they Americanized her for the movie and I'm not a fan of it.

In your defense to CaptainCanada she has had a Russian accent in every form of media she's been in except for the films... that's similar to how people complain about the X-Men not having Rogue like TAS being feisty though it has only been during the 90s that she adopted that attitude. Are people not valid to want her to be the character they are more familiar with? No.

I also can't help but feel that if everything went to plan and Emily Blunt got the role she'd have an accent as well.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Yeah i agree with most of what you said. The only thing I would rectify is saying that I don't think it was Aflecks star power but the character he was playing star power that overshadowed Superman.

affleck staus as acclaimed writer and director who WB wants to be in business
with adds to his star power.since batman In BVS was based off of DKR it was total valid.look using ultimates for influence is valid.i just want people to treat
them all the same and not signal out X-Men for comic accurcacy.those who
are not me who loved mOS and who prefer superman are probaly lived WB
made MOS sequel with batman as the star.