Dark Phoenix X-Men: Dark Phoenix News and Speculation Thread - - - - - Part 14

[The Original Bamfer]

23 X related movies in 10 years?

I know, right?

 

[psylockolussus]

dont think thats likely. I think this scenario is closer to how Feige and Marvel Studios work:

2022: Storm movie - Cyclops movie - Thunderbird movie
2023: X-Men: Original Five (may) - Wolverine movie (November) - Rogue introduced in Captain Marvel 2 - Polaris tv show
2024: Sunfire movie - Gambit movie - Dazzler tv show
2025: Storm 2 - Cyclops & Havok: Summers camp
2026: X-Men 2 - Rogue movie - Wolverine 2 - Nigtcrawler cameo in Doctor Strange 4
2027: Gambit 2 - Banshee movie - Generation X tv show
2028: Mr. Sinister: Mutant Massacre - Starjammers movie
2029: Bishop movie - New Mutants movie - Wolverine 3
2030: Phoenix Saga pt 1 (X-Men, Starjammers, Shi'Ar Empire)
2031: Phoenix Saga pt 2 (Proteus, Hellfire introduction)
2032: Phoenix Saga pt 3 (Hellfire, Dark Phoenix)
BOOM!

Lol that's not happening. MCU should focus on F4/Silver Surfer/XM and not get crazy with spin offs. Also there's the Eternal movie and who knows if Black Widow would get a trilogy treatment as well. As for another Wolverine trilogy - heck to the no!

 

[Jh7058622]

No, it's a good example. You just didn't understand. Civil War was adapted without the exact same consequences from the comics. Why can't it be the same with Captain Marvel? I'm sure they'll be tying Rogue's origin to Captain Marvel, and I'm sure they won't end a franchise for that. If the impression you get when the fans talk about tying Rogue's origin in a Captain Marvel is ending the franchise, that's on you.

The best part of Rogue power draining and almost killing Ms. Marvel was the consequences of her actions.It is what caused her to part ways with Mystique and seek the help of The professor which is what led to her becoming a hero.

Why bother even bringing her in a CM sequel in the first place if the actions aren't going to have similar effects?

 

[psylockolussus]

I think all we get next decade is X-MEN 1-2-3 and Wolverine Vs Hulk and then Wolverine 2&3

Give me X-Men 1 to 5 and I'd rest in piece.

What I hated about Fox was the over reliance to Wolverine films. They could have done both instead of just Wolverine films while we had to wait for the X3 follow up 8 years later only to end the original cast in that film, and of course Logan happened as the final nail. While Fc/A were pretty much the Magneto/Mystique/Xavier show, not eXactly the X-Men.

Like we should have been in X-Men 7 now with the X-Men as a team evolving after eighteen years but nope. So good riddance, Fox's plans will be halted when Disney takes over.

 

[Abudefduf]

No, it's a good example. You just didn't understand. Civil War was adapted without the exact same consequences from the comics. Why can't it be the same with Captain Marvel?

Because that's not how Rogue works, as I'm sure you already know. She can't gently steal powers from someone. And even if she could, she sure as heck wouldn't do it while fighting a person she considered her enemy.

How can one not take it personally when you’ve tasked me to “tell that to the people who have actually suggested the movies on that crazy list [you] posted.”

I'm sorry, I have no idea what you're trying to say here. And yes, IIRC I did make fun of that person's suggestion in the same thread where it happened. I'm not joking, I'm that much of a jerk.

The best part of Rogue power draining and almost killing Ms. Marvel was the consequences of her actions.It is what caused her to part ways with Mystique and seek the help of The professor which is what led to her becoming a hero.

Why bother even bringing her in a CM sequel in the first place if the actions aren't going to have similar effects?

 

[Drexelhand]

The best part of Rogue power draining and almost killing Ms. Marvel was the consequences of her actions.It is what caused her to part ways with Mystique and seek the help of The professor which is what led to her becoming a hero.

Why bother even bringing her in a CM sequel in the first place if the actions aren't going to have similar effects?

That's not why Rogue left Mystique, she left because Mystique couldn't help control her powers and so she went to the Professor to seek treatment, not redemption. She didn't even leave until two years after the battle with Ms. Marvel.

 

[The Original Bamfer]

I guess I was wrong in thinking that movies (especially effects-heavy blockbusters) take a fairly long time to produce. Apparently you just have to have an idea in your head and hope really hard and, BOOM! Instant movie!

Come on, Disney, you’ve got no excuse not to have 4 main, 2 spin-off and 2 crossover films THIS YEAR!

 

[psylockolussus]

Take away a couple of Wolverine movies and add a Storm solo and I'd say that's a pretty realistic prediction.

SumT is making fun of me making fun of delusional X-Men fans and their crazy suggestions, he's not being serious. lol

I hope Marvel Stud10s would prevent another Wolverine film. Thing is unlike spider-man, Wolverine is pretty much a X-Men character foremost. They can just keep him in the X-Men. I personally want them to get the most out of the team in ensemble flicks (like in ten to twelve years) before branching out in solos and splinter teams.

 

[Jh7058622]

That's not why Rogue left Mystique, she left because Mystique couldn't help control her powers and so she went to the Professor to seek treatment, not redemption. She didn't even leave until two years after the battle with Ms. Marvel.

You are pontificating I did not know that or that my words don't imply that when I did and they do.

Nothing I put negates what you did. Her seeking help from the professor is the reason she left Mystique. She joined the team and had to prove herself as she was shunned by almost all of them. It wasn't until her first mission alone with Logan where she saved his life did he start (and some others) coming around.

To get back to the point of me bringing it up without it being dissected for no reason...

Her choice had a ripple effect that effected the entire Marvel universe. Avengers would throw shade at the X-Men for taking in former super villains. It had dare I sayconsequences?

 

[2kt09]

To get back to the point of me bringing it up without it being dissected for no reason...

Her choice had a ripple effect that effected the entire Marvel universe. Avengers would throw shade at the X-Men for taking in former super villains. It had dare I say consequences?

And to bring it back to this X-Men: Dark Phoenix News and Speculation Thread, hopefully there's time for that with Storm even though a decade will have passed for the X-Men to dwell on it.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

I hope Marvel Stud10s would prevent another Wolverine film. Thing is unlike spider-man, Wolverine is pretty much a X-Men character foremost. They can just keep him in the X-Men. I personally want them to get the most out of the team in ensemble flicks (like in ten to twelve years) before branching out in solos and splinter teams.

I don't really want another Wolverine solo but I think it's a lock to happen. I'll see it but I don't want it

 

[psylockolussus]

With Eternals, Fantastic Four, Black Widow, Silver Surfer and the entire X-Men possibly headlining a MCU film. Disney has options. Also let's not forget the 3quel for Ant-Man, Spidey, Capt Marvel, Bp and Strange. Spider-Man won't take a rest as Sony needs it. I don't think Disney needs to make a Wolverine film. I really think the X-Men this time would be treated as an ensemble and not with Wolverine as the bigger figure that gets to headline solo flicks.

 

[Havok83]

They are more likely to make a Wolverine solo before Silver Surfer

 

[SumT]

And Storm will be next

 

[BaronZemo]

Zero chance of a Storm solo happening. I think some of you are really detached from reality...

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

Storm I think would only appear in X-MEN, Wolverine Solo, Black Panther 3, or A-Force

 

[SumT]

Zero chance of a Storm solo happening. I think some of you are really detached from reality...

"solo chance Marvel will make a female solo movie"

years later:

Captain Marvel (2019)
Black Widow (2020 likely)

same fan attitude of a decade ago, of "wont believe until I see". But dont worry, yall, you'll see

 

[BaronZemo]

Storm isn't Widow or Carol who have headlined solos titles for years. Storm works better as an ensemble and feige knows it better than both of us.

My comment had nothing to do with her gender so i have no idea why you stuck with that. Marvel is gonna have so many properties+ already exissting ones and you think they are gonna waste a slot for a Storm solo when they can include them in an X-men movie?

Like i said, some of you really need to get back to Earth...

 

[SumT]

waste a slot in a Storm movie? wow, lol.

anyway, cant stand close mided fans. onto the next topic

 

[BaronZemo]

Yes, it would be a waste when you can have her as an X-men member. That's like making a Gamora or Drax solo before Guardians. Some characters don't need it.

 

[Jh7058622]

Sometimes it seems some here think every X-Men deserve a solo film. I'm not saying that to be funny either I'm truly concerned some have their expectations way too high.

 

[SumT]

Yes, it would be a waste when you can have her as an X-men member. That's like making a Gamora or Drax solo before Guardians. Some characters don't need it.

who said she wont or cant be a x-men at the same time?

Ironman, Cap, Thor.... all got solo trilogies, while still being avengers.

and was Wolverine trilogy a waste, when he was appearing in the x-men movies too? Obviously not, so this aplies to any character, at least the great ones.

To say doing a Storm solo movie is a waste makes no sense, sorry.

And I didnt say it has to be her solo movie before the team one, Marvel/Feige can and will do whatever they want, they have the power and confidence to do it their way. If they want Storm solo movie first, they'll do it. If they want her introduced in a team movie and then getting her spinoff, they'll do it.

And sorry, but the comparision to Gamora or Drax is ridiculous. Do you really know who is Storm??

She's one of the most important/iconic female heroes ever. waaaaay above all the other comic females. And the demand for her own movie is out there, there are plenty of articles these last years including her. Feige knows it, he's not blind and its smarter than other studios, knowing their audience, or creating an audience. If he loves Storm, he'll make it happen. We just have to wait to the official news and next years interviews, to see what his intentions are with the x-men, universe wise. Certain fans can be as negative as they want (as always happened), but Feige is a fan too, and one with real power, so his ideas/confidence is what really matters.

 

[Marvel united]

who said she wont or cant be a x-men at the same time?

Ironman, Cap, Thor.... all got solo trilogies, while still being avengers.

and was Wolverine trilogy a waste, when he was appearing in the x-men movies too? Obviously not, so this aplies to any character, at least the great ones.

To say doing a Storm solo movie is a waste makes no sense, sorry.

And I didnt say it has to be her solo movie before the team one, Marvel/Feige can and will do whatever they want, they have the power and confidence to do it their way. If they want Storm solo movie first, they'll do it. If they want her introduced in a team movie and then getting her spinoff, they'll do it.

And sorry, but the comparision to Gamora or Drax is ridiculous. Do you really know who is Storm??

She's one of the most important/iconic female heroes ever. waaaaay above all the other comic females. And the demand for her own movie is out there, there are plenty of articles these last years including her. Feige knows it, he's not blind and its smarter than other studios, knowing their audience, or creating an audience. If he loves Storm, he'll make it happen. We just have to wait to the official news and next years interviews, to see what his intentions are with the x-men, universe wise. Certain fans can be as negative as they want (as always happened), but Feige is a fan too, and one with real power, so his ideas/confidence is what really matters.

A Storm solo that really dives into her backstory, mythology and tragedy would be amazing

 

[Lip]

Because that's not how Rogue works, as I'm sure you already know. She can't gently steal powers from someone. And even if she could, she sure as heck wouldn't do it while fighting a person she considered her enemy.

So Marvel won't tie Rogue's origin to Captain Marvel because the only possible creative path is her being in a coma for 20 years and ending a franchise. There isn't any other creative alternative, like her being seriously injured, or something like that. Right. Got it now.

 

[Frankeh]

The speculation that makes the most sense for me is that the Hellfire Club & the Galactic Empire has been consolidated through Chastain's character.

Sounds like a bad idea to me. But I do suspect that's the truth.