Dark Phoenix X-Men: Dark Phoenix News and Speculation Thread - - - - - - Part 15

[Marvel united]

Constantin all over again haha

 

[Frankeh]

Bad Robot owns the production rights to Star Wars because they were a co-producer in Episode VII and Episode IX. JJ Abrams can block and control the franchise. Trust me on this one guys. Who needs SEC filings and shareholders to answer to when I can talk out of my ass?

 

[Zarex]

How Fox operate regarding the rights is part of whatever distribution deal they struck with her company. Whatever transfer to Marvel, she's involved. Film rights are rights under copyright law to produce a film as a derivative work of a given item of intellectual property. Even this quote from an article in 2017 recognizes:

Fox doesn't simply distribute the X-Men film series on behalf of the Donners' Company. 20th Century Fox Film Studio controls the character rights, physical production, marketing and advertising along with distribution.

Kevin Feige may or may not keep Ms. Donner on given their past work relationship, but that's up to him and the Mouse. If your goal is to turn LSD into the next CONSTANTIN you are going to have to give it a lot more effort.

 

[Cktopl33]

Bad Robot owns the production rights to Star Wars because they were a co-producer in Episode VII and Episode IX. JJ Abrams can block and control the franchise. Trust me on this one guys. Who needs SEC filings and shareholders to answer to when I can talk out of my ass?

Faulty comparison. JJ Abrams production company never bought the film rights to Star Wars that I'm aware of so it never would have been "in control of the franchise".

 

[ADollarADay]

Faulty comparison. JJ Abrams production company never bought the film rights to Star Wars that I'm aware of so it never would have been "in control of the franchise".

 

[Cktopl33]

Fox doesn't simply distribute the X-Men film series on behalf of the Donners' Company. 20th Century Fox Film Studio controls the character rights, physical production, marketing and advertising along with distribution.

Film distributors are responsible for marketing, advertising, physical production of release prints, etc. That's why production companies secure a distributor. Donner's company bought the FILM rights in 1994 and negotiated a deal with Fox pertaining to FILM. The details of the deal are not public. Donner's company didn't have control over any rights pertaining to merchandising, etc.

 

[Zarex]

Film distributors are responsible for marketing, advertising, physical production of release prints, etc. Donner's company bought the FILM rights in 94 and negotiated a deal with Fox pertaining to FILM. The details of the deal are not public. Donner's company didn't have control over any rights pertaining to merchandising, etc.

This is a complete load of hooey, and can be proven wrong with a simple reading of the decision from the US Second Court of Appeals back in 2002 regarding the Mutant X Lawsuit:

The 1993 Agreement.   In October 1993, Marvel and Fox signed an agreement (the “1993 Agreement”) pursuant to which Marvel licensed to Fox all the rights that Fox may require in order to produce, distribute, exploit, advertise, promote, and publicize theatrical motion pictures based on the “X-Men” comic book series.
FindLaw's United States Second Circuit case and opinions.

Another bit of proof that you are wrong is that Disney would have been obligated to disclose any third party arrangement that could have negatively impacted the Marvel rights set to transfer in the Fox buyout. To not disclose this apparently non-public (and totally imaginary) deal would have been a breach of The Walt Disney Company's fiduciary duty to their shareholders.

But I think you understand all this and are trolling MCU fans. You are lashing out because you are upset about another Dark Phoenix delay and the gloating that followed. At least, I hope you are just trolling.

 

[psylockolussus]

There was that movie based on the John Le Carre novel with Ralph Fiennes and Rachel Weisz where he kept digging around for things to beat a dead horse. It was called the Constantin Gardener.

constant not constantin

 

[Endeavor]

constant not constantin

LMAO

never change

 

[psylockolussus]

‪Lauren wanted the original cast in Apocalypse, but Fox and Kinberg don’t.So what they say doesn’t make any sense.‬

she said x4 leads to x5 but x5 didnt happen.

Apparently Disney is hiding something from us, they still have to buy the rights from Shuler Donner

Get that Disney money, Lauren Shuler Donner

 

[rebellion]

Bad Robot owns the production rights to Star Wars because they were a co-producer in Episode VII and Episode IX. JJ Abrams can block and control the franchise. Trust me on this one guys. Who needs SEC filings and shareholders to answer to when I can talk out of my ass?

I almost choked reading this, no joke XD

I actually spit out my drink

 

[Cktopl33]

This is a complete load of hooey, and can be proven wrong with a simple reading of the decision from the US Second Court of Appeals back in 2002 regarding the Mutant X Lawsuit:

The 1993 Agreement.   In October 1993, Marvel and Fox signed an agreement (the “1993 Agreement”) pursuant to which Marvel licensed to Fox all the rights that Fox may require in order to produce, distribute, exploit, advertise, promote, and publicize theatrical motion pictures based on the “X-Men” comic book series.
FindLaw's United States Second Circuit case and opinions.

Another bit of proof that you are wrong is that Disney would have been obligated to disclose any third party arrangement that could potentially have negatively impacted the Marvel rights set to transfer in the Fox buyout. To not disclose this apparently non-public (and totally imaginary) deal would have been a breach of The Walt Disney Company's fiduciary duty to their shareholders.

But I think you understand all this and are trolling MCU fans. You are lashing out because you are upset about another Dark Phoenix delay and the gloating that followed. At least, I hope you are just trolling.

I'm assuming that's the deal her company was involved in since she was working for Fox.

in 1993, A Harley-riding, Israel-born Toy Biz designer named Avi Arad was brought in to guide a restructured and renamed Marvel Films, taking the reins from Stan Lee. By year’s end, Arad had signed a deal with 20th Century Fox to do an X-Men movie. He was involved in Marvel's emergence from bankruptcy and the expansion of the company's profile through licensing and movies.

long before Marvel Studios launched, Shuler Donner alongside Avi Arad and Stan Lee, helped Twentieth Century Fox lock down an entire multiverse of mutants.

 

[rebellion]

Dude, go home, you're drunk...

 

[Dark Raven]

FF rights are still with Constantin and X-Men rights are still with Shuler Donner

Constant-LSD, the new enemy on the street that the combined forces of Disney-Fox will be fighting against.

 

[The Original Bamfer]

The last several pages of this thread have been little more than textual diarrhea I have no idea what’s going on anymore.

 

[Endeavor]

The last several pages of this thread have been little more than textual diarrhea I have no idea what’s going on anymore.

Lmao

Yes you do Bamfer. It's nothing we haven't seen before.

 

[Dark Raven]

The last several pages of this thread have been little more than textual diarrhea I have no idea what’s going on anymore.

Don't worry, it's all in the run up to the turd in the wind with Venom this week.

 

[Erik Lensherr]

 

[Erik Lensherr]

 

[BMM]

That’s the kind of stuff they should have included more of in the trailer, not a Facebook Q&A.

 

[SumT]

lol

 

[Dark Raven]

What's the point of showing all this, when the movie has just been pushed back to June? Kinberg is like the proverbial man closing the stable door after the horse has already bolted.

 

[EnDz0n3]

I never did follow or visit the Fant4stic boards but this is kinda fun.

 

[Erik Lensherr]

 

[Erik Lensherr]