Dark Phoenix X-Men: Dark Phoenix News and Speculation Thread - - - - - - Part 15

[The Original Bamfer]

I'm not.


Its April Fools Day!

The irony contained in this post is astounding.

 

[BMM]

 

[Manasrepublic]

After hearing such promising reactions to the special privileged footage at the con, Feige and the MCU would not be thinking clearly or well if they didn’t kee Kinberg for his expertise and skilled craftsmanship. He has been in bed with these characters for years and knows them so well now. Are there a few he could do a little better on? Sure but overall he has an incredible command of tension, action, dialog, story logic and script mastery... all of these talents of his are eXquisite and eXhilarating

Trust me... belieXe in HIM. His smile is confident. He knows he will be vindicated and get good projects after this

 

[AndrewGilkison]

“I think for many years with the X-Men, Bryan really transformed the superhero genre in 2000 or 2001 when the first one came out. That’s almost 20 years ago. It is a long time ago. And at that time, superhero movies were not wildly popular, actually. There had been a few failures in the mid-90s, and there hadn’t been a lot of superhero movies, if any, around that time and X-Men sort of was revolutionary in its moment. But that was 20 years ago and I think, I really felt like it was time to really change the look, the feel, the tone, the vibe of these movies. And that doesn’t mean this is the one going forward, it just means that if it’s me or whoever directs the next one, you can make it different, and you have to make it different.” - Simon Kinberg

Edit: I got this from a site I don't think I am allowed to link to here.

 

[DACrowe]

X-Men Producer: Dark Phoenix Is a Hitchcock-esque Psychological Thriller



Interesting...

Love the concept. Have my doubts Kinberg could pull that off though. Still, I'll reserve judgement till seeing it, because a dramatic superhero melodrama is not a bad thing. If it's good.

 

[DACrowe]

Psychological thriller? I thought this was a straight drama? LOL.

Hey, doesn't stop fanboys for buying the PR hype to this day that The Winter Soldier is a "1970s political spy thriller" because they said so enough times in the marketing material.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Hey, doesn't stop fanboys for buying the PR hype to this day that The Winter Soldier is a "1970s political spy thriller" because they said so enough times in the marketing material.

This is the third act climax of the movie. How does this make it not a political thriller?

This is like trying to dunk on the original X-Men movie from 2000 for marketing itself as grounded and real world (because the X-Men wear black leather!), even though Magneto's plan was to turn the world leaders into mutants via a big giant machine while Wolverine and Sabertooth fought on the Statue of Liberty.

 

[Erik Lensherr]

 

[carpenter82]

One more bit of cosplay at Wondercon.

 

[psylockolussus]

Hey, doesn't stop fanboys for buying the PR hype to this day that The Winter Soldier is a "1970s political spy thriller" because they said so enough times in the marketing material.

If you want to dismiss the Mcu, there's plenty of mcu threads out there.

That being said, good luck to Dark PhoeniX being as good as The Winter Soldier.

 

[Ordet]

If you want to dismiss the Mcu, there's plenty of mcu threads out there.

That being said, good luck to Dark PhoeniX being as good as The Winter Soldier.

Will be not so hard.

 

[Aximili86]

Shipp sounds like a classy, professional, pleasant person.

Christ, you're a no-name actor, just be happy you're in a giant mega-budget summer movie. Making a lack of the screentime/plot-importance into a race thing is ridiculous. Look at Marsden in the originals for god's sake, as far as significance goes. Storm also got a pretty good showing last time around in Apocalypse, with a cast this big not everyone's going to get the big piece of the pie. I also seriously doubt some of the others here, the non-Jean-and-Scott-and-Xavier-and-Erik types, are exactly getting a substantive deep-dive either.

 

[Alison Blaire]

Alexandra Shipp Teases Open-Ended 'Dark Phoenix' Conclusion

 

[Charzhin0]

Open ended. Only thing that comes to mind is if they imply Jean is not really dead and still lives on, similar to X2s ending. Knowing that this is the last Xmen movie they surely cant end on a downer like the comic story does.

 

[samsnee]

Hey, doesn't stop fanboys for buying the PR hype to this day that The Winter Soldier is a "1970s political spy thriller" because they said so enough times in the marketing material.

I guess if you walked into the movie for just the third act, you'd think that.

Anyway, Kinberg is sounding more and more desperate to be kept as part of the MCU. It's actually kind of sad sounding. It reminds me a bit of Avi Arad, except he doesn't have a Sony to fall back on so he can build an X-men adjacent universe.

 

[psyonic]

Whew! That's enough internet for one day.. Dark Phoenix s a psychological thriller now? Before it was 'Dark Phoenix is inspired by Thor: Ragnarok' and 'Dark Phoenix is gritty like Logan and same in tone'.. ? .. Well.. shove a pineapple in me, turn me over and I'll squat out a pineapple upside down cake! What the hell are they saying now?

 

[The Original Bamfer]

Well.. shove a pineapple in me, turn me over and I'll squat out a pineapple upside down cake!

Haha, what?!?

 

[GuestStar2004]

Whew! That's enough internet for one day.. Dark Phoenix s a psychological thriller now? Before it was 'Dark Phoenix is inspired by Thor: Ragnarok' and 'Dark Phoenix is gritty like Logan and same in tone'.. ? .. Well.. shove a pineapple in me, turn me over and I'll squat out a pineapple upside down cake! What the hell are they saying now?

You can take inspiration from all sorts of places.

For example, Singer said Archangels transformation in apocalypse was inspired by American Werewolf in London... doesn't wasn't mean the whole film was lol

The inspiration from Ragnarok was said to be the phoenix force being an actual living being. making an element of the cosmic universe a character in the story

Anyway, Kinberg is sounding more and more desperate to be kept as part of the MCU. It's actually kind of sad sounding. It reminds me a bit of Avi Arad, except he doesn't have a Sony to fall back on so he can build an X-men adjacent universe.

What has he said that makes him sound desperate?

 

[samsnee]

To me, that's like going to a restaurant that has a hundred different items on its menu. You're trying to please everyone which tells me you aren't very good at making one specific thing.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Well i suppose if your restaurant only makes one item. you won't get many customers..

But on a serious note, thats kinda what directors do. although probably a little more so with new directors who are the most noticeable for doing it because they are inspired by years of watching other film makers

Another example is Michael B. Jordan saying he was inspired by Michael Fassbenders Magneto (gasp) and Heath Ledgers joker for black panther. but thats not saying his character was an attempt to grab the people that love X-Men and DC.

 

[Ordet]

To me, that's like going to a restaurant that has a hundred different items on its menu. You're trying to please everyone which tells me you aren't very good at making one specific thing.

Or...
You can take inspiration from Blues, Jazz, Country, Folk and create Rock n roll.

 

[sleekstereo]

I rather have Kinberg working on Star Wars. He gets that material.

 

[The Guard]

This is amazing.

But i have the same issue that i have with the Claremont/Byrne story.
I don't like Dark Phoenix's costume.

In comics It was too like a normal superhero stuff, and in this movie (like in X3...) it was too normal.
I would love to see something more ethnical alien, something that somewhat remind the cosmica nature of the Phoenix.

Something cosmic like...that cosmic fire that's about to split her in two on the poster?

 

[The Guard]

Shipp sounds like a classy, professional, pleasant person.

Christ, you're a no-name actor, just be happy you're in a giant mega-budget summer movie. Making a lack of the screentime/plot-importance into a race thing is ridiculous. Look at Marsden in the originals for god's sake, as far as significance goes. Storm also got a pretty good showing last time around in Apocalypse, with a cast this big not everyone's going to get the big piece of the pie. I also seriously doubt some of the others here, the non-Jean-and-Scott-and-Xavier-and-Erik types, are exactly getting a substantive deep-dive either.

She's not wrong about Storm's potential, but it sounds like she gets some pretty cool stuff to do actionwise, and in her other quotes it sounds like she actually has some really nice emotional elements with Jean akin to the type of thing people have been clamoring for for...decades now. No, she's not a lead, but they didn't cast Alexandra Shipp to be a lead in this franchise.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Kinberg says Dark Phoenix will have a tribute to Stan Lee

We don't have a cameo. I'd rather say that than then keep it mysterious, out of respect for Stan. We do have some tribute to him, and it's something that obviously we weren't thinking about when we were making the movie because he was still very much alive. And he's been such a huge part of making these films over the years. He's had cameos; he's had input into the process of making them.