Dark Phoenix X-Men: Dark Phoenix News and Speculation Thread - - - - - - Part 15

[Alison Blaire]

https://x-menfilms.com/blog/2019/06...ended-scenes-missing-from-the-theatrical-cut/

 

[Alison Blaire]

To be fair one of the two is (allegedly) actually truly and completely evil, the other is a nice guy who’s just bad at writing and directing.



He’s never seen a Nolan movie, he’s never read an X-Men comic, we should all just be honest, shouldn’t we Simon?

I don’t trust Kinberg.Looks can be deceiving
#director #producer #writer

 

[Erik Lensherr]

New

 

[Dark Raven]

Kinberg; Now where did I leave those cucumbers in this room?

Jean: Hey mister, I sure could use your help over here instead of posting this pic on Instagram!

Cyclops: I thought this was the toilet. Now how am I supposed to wipe?

Jessica Chastain: How does Elizabeth Olsen do such pretty hand movements?

 

[The Infernal]

Tye: So if I agree to say your dialogue you'll let me go, right?

 

[Erik Lensherr]

 

[Dark Raven]

Jessica: Things could've been worse. I could've had cornrows instead.

 

[Detective Conan]

Simon Kinberg Speaks Out About The Film’s Box Office Failure For First Time.

So Kinberg will be doing the reshoots for New Mutants? After DP’s failure I think the Mouse might wanna think twice before letting him do that(or even giving the whole movie a theatrical release). And oh as we all expected Kinberg confirms he’s done with the X-franchise, and will hand over the reigns to Feige.

 

[Dark Raven]

Simon Kinberg Speaks Out About The Film’s Box Office Failure For First Time.

So Kinberg will be doing the reshoots for New Mutants? After DP’s failure I think the Mouse might wanna think twice before letting him do that(or even giving the whole movie a theatrical release). And oh as we all expected Kinberg confirms he’s done with the X-franchise, and will hand over the reigns to Feige.

He says about the failure: "That's on me". And yet after that he's still going to work on New Mutants? That will be on him as well.

And nice of him to allow Feige to take control of the reigns now. As if Feige needed his permission.

 

[Hand Banana]

Simon Kinberg Speaks Out About The Film’s Box Office Failure For First Time.

So Kinberg will be doing the reshoots for New Mutants? After DP’s failure I think the Mouse might wanna think twice before letting him do that(or even giving the whole movie a theatrical release). And oh as we all expected Kinberg confirms he’s done with the X-franchise, and will hand over the reigns to Feige.

I like how he’s humble enough to take part of the blame.

I thought he was at least a good producer.

 

[EnDz0n3]

Simon Kinberg Speaks Out About The Film’s Box Office Failure For First Time.

So Kinberg will be doing the reshoots for New Mutants? After DP’s failure I think the Mouse might wanna think twice before letting him do that(or even giving the whole movie a theatrical release).

That has to be a mistake. Is Disney simply giving Kinberg space for now and just haven't had the talk with him yet?

It's also possible Kinberg's speaking out of turn. Or outright talking falsehoods...

 

[Erik Lensherr]

Kinberg acknowledged that when a movie doesn’t work, there’s a lot of finger pointing, but said ultimately it comes down to him: “I’m here, I’m saying when a movie doesn’t work, put it on me. I’m the writer-director, the movie didn’t connect with audiences, that’s on me.”

Say what you want about Kinberg, but this powerfull statement shows only testifies to the strength of his character.

The first step to improvement is self knowledge!

 

[Hand Banana]

A big flop is painful even to the most successful filmmakers. That didn’t stop writer-producer Simon Kinberg from sharing exclusively with The Business his perspective on what went wrong with ‘Dark Phoenix.’

Kinberg has worked as a writer and producer on the X-Men movie franchise since 2006, and while he’s sometimes stepped behind the camera when things were going off the rails, ‘Dark Phoenix’ was his directorial debut. The film got panned by critics and opened to only $33 million in the U.S.--the lowest of any of the X-Men movies.

We talked to Kinberg a few days after that brutal weekend. It’s not excruciating to talk about he said, because, “I actually really like the movie, [and] I had an amazing time making the movie.”

But that doesn’t mean it was easy. Kinberg told us about the reshoots, release dates changes, and working at Fox as it was being swallowed by Disney.

Kinberg acknowledged that when a movie doesn’t work, there’s a lot of finger pointing, but said ultimately it comes down to him: “I’m here, I’m saying when a movie doesn’t work, put it on me. I’m the writer-director, the movie didn’t connect with audiences, that’s on me.”

And while it’s tempting to speculate what might have happened had ‘Dark Phoenix’ been able to stick with one of its preferred release dates or had more time in the Disney marketing machine, Kinberg is trying not to dwell on that.

“I mean honestly, there’s no way to know,” he said. “And that’s the thing that I think can drive people crazy and keep them up and be thinking about a movie’s failure years later. If the lesson you’ve learned is that you had the wrong date or you didn’t have good marketing--that’s not a lesson.”

Listen in to hear more from Kinberg, including his mixed feelings on being essentially done with the X-Men as the mutants move over to join their fellow Marvel superheroes at the house that Kevin Feige build. Plus, Kinberg shares his favorite email he’s received following the release of ‘Dark Phoenix.’

The Business exclusive: Simon Kinberg on the dark fate of ‘Dark Phoenix’

 

[Detective Conan]

Say what you want about Kinberg, but this powerfull statement shows only testifies to the strength of his character.

The first step to improvement is self knowledge!

Here’s a quote from a movie that Internet fanboys can never stop hating over, “The greatest teacher, failure is.”

 

[EnDz0n3]

Say what you want about Kinberg, but this powerfull statement shows only testifies to the strength of his character.

The first step to improvement is self knowledge!

He should have learned that lesson the first...5 times he's failed as a writer.

 

[Hand Banana]

He should have learned that lesson the first...5 times he's failed as a writer.

To be fair, he rarely writes a movie on his own and the other films he has wrote his writing wasn’t even what was being criticized.

 

[Hand Banana]

Say what you want about Kinberg, but this powerfull statement shows only testifies to the strength of his character.

The first step to improvement is self knowledge!

That reminds me of David Fincher’s quote about Alien 3.

“Take all of the responsibility, because you’re going to get all of the blame”

 

[JimThompson]

“Take all of the responsibility, because you’re going to get all of the blame”

Ain't that the truth.

 

[EnDz0n3]

To be fair, he rarely writes a movie on his own and the other films he has wrote his writing wasn’t even what was being criticized.

But even now that he's this movie's sole writer and director, many are still casting aspersions against Fox the original studio, the marketing team that had to sell this bomb, Disney the second studio that inherited this trash, a phantom movie or two that supposedly stole this movie's original plot or any number of conspiracy theories that have sprung up since this movie bombed at the box office and **** the bed at Rottentomatoes.

So pardon me if I don't come off as fair to Kinberg.

 

[JP]

I fully believe Kinberg when he says he’s doing to NM reshoots. Because the one thing I’ve learned from his entire career is that it doesn’t matter how many (many many many many many many many many) mistakes he makes. He just keeps working.

 

[Frankeh]

He should have learned that lesson the first...5 times he's failed as a writer.

Yea Zzzz.

"Simon Kinberg on why Fant4stic didn't work"
"Simon Kinberg on why The Last Stand didn't work"
"Simon Kinberg on why X-Men: Apocalypse didn't work"
"Simon Kinberg on why Dark Phoenix didn't work"

Ain't y'all tired of reading this? Cause I certainly am.

 

[Hand Banana]

Ain't that the truth.

Yup.

Ironically, this film’s production mirrors Alien 3’s production in so many ways.

-First time director on a big franchise owned by Fox.
-Last minute budget cuts.
-Major script rewrites that changed the entire premise.
-Long delays resulting from reshoots.

Guess Fox never learns.

Fun fact: Both feature of Game of Thrones actors

But even now that he's this movie's sole writer and director, many are still casting aspersions against Fox the original studio, the marketing team that had to sell this bomb, Disney the second studio that inherited this trash, a phantom movie or two that supposedly stole this movie's original plot or any number of conspiracy theories that have sprung up since this movie bombed at the box office and **** the bed at Rottentomatoes.

So pardon me if I don't come off as fair to Kinberg.

Oh, Fox definitely should get part of the blame.

 

[Hand Banana]

Yea Zzzz.

"Simon Kinberg on why Fant4stic didn't work"
"Simon Kinberg on why The Last Stand didn't work"
"Simon Kinberg on why X-Men: Apocalypse didn't work"
"Simon Kinberg on why Dark Phoenix didn't work"

Ain't y'all tired of reading this? Cause I certainly am.

Actually, Kinberg said that X3 did worked with general audiences but not with fans.

 

[Hand Banana]

I fully believe Kinberg when he says he’s doing to NM reshoots. Because the one thing I’ve learned from his entire career is that it doesn’t matter how many (many many many many many many many many) mistakes he makes. He just keeps working.

I believe he got the job on this film because he finished DOFP and Apocalypse when Singer went AWOL.

 

[Alison Blaire]

Kinberg didn’t finished Dofp,it's a lie.Only finished Apocalypse